V/Line CEO James Pinder suspended amid iBAC investigation

 
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
From my perspective, I've not been impressed with James Pinder who actually believes V/Line passenger ends at Bendigo on the Swan Hill line.

When I asked him at a public forum last year about his travel arrangements, having that same day returned from Mildura, his words were why would I travel by V/Line to/from Mildura...'it would take forever to get there'.

Cast our minds back to history when the VR Commissioners, the predecessors of the now CEO, if at that time decided...ohh it's too far to go to Mildura by train (a train was available then) and decided to cut Mildura adrift...and the employees along the line, such as those nowadays who staff Mildura station, also the Robinvale bus stop, the staff at Swan Hill and Kerang stations...as well as those who work for Swan Hill bus lines who operate the frequent bus service from Mildura to Swan Hill/Bendigo and Melbourne via Ballarat.

Simply not good enough Mr Pinder and there are ways, means and reasons why V/Line's passenger network covers the WHOLE of Victoria, not just those destinations that are 'convenient' for you to utilise.

I'll step down from my soapbox now.

Mike.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well the plot thickens this morning team.  https://t.co/sESkP4L0nr?amp=1  Metro Trains Rolling stock maintenance have now been bought into the iBac investigation.

A manager at Melbourne rail operator Metro Trains has been suspended amid an investigation into alleged corruption within Victorian transport. Metro rolling stock manager Peter Bollas is being questioned by the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission's investigators.
Somebody

Could he and Pinder have worked together at some point?

Sources close to the investigation have confirmed the probe relates to regional rail operator V/Line's cleaning contracts. The troubled Murray Basin rail project, which has faced cost blowouts and delays, has been ruled out of the IBAC investigation.
Somebody

MBRP ruled out.
  firefox Station Master

Well the plot thickens this morning team.  https://t.co/sESkP4L0nr?amp=1  Metro Trains Rolling stock maintenance have now been bought into the iBac investigation.

A manager at Melbourne rail operator Metro Trains has been suspended amid an investigation into alleged corruption within Victorian transport. Metro rolling stock manager Peter Bollas is being questioned by the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission's investigators.

Could he and Pinder have worked together at some point?

Sources close to the investigation have confirmed the probe relates to regional rail operator V/Line's cleaning contracts. The troubled Murray Basin rail project, which has faced cost blowouts and delays, has been ruled out of the IBAC investigation.

MBRP ruled out.
bevans

Well I guess they got the sequence right - investigate corruption first, then incompetence second.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Well I guess they got the sequence right - investigate corruption first, then incompetence second.
"firefox"
The beauty of that idea is that dealing with a relatively small amount of corruption is easier to complete than checking the amount of ingrained incompetence.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
From my perspective, I've not been impressed with James Pinder who actually believes V/Line passenger ends at Bendigo on the Swan Hill line.

When I asked him at a public forum last year about his travel arrangements, having that same day returned from Mildura, his words were why would I travel by V/Line to/from Mildura...'it would take forever to get there'.

Cast our minds back to history when the VR Commissioners, the predecessors of the now CEO, if at that time decided...ohh it's too far to go to Mildura by train (a train was available then) and decided to cut Mildura adrift...and the employees along the line, such as those nowadays who staff Mildura station, also the Robinvale bus stop, the staff at Swan Hill and Kerang stations...as well as those who work for Swan Hill bus lines who operate the frequent bus service from Mildura to Swan Hill/Bendigo and Melbourne via Ballarat.

Simply not good enough Mr Pinder and there are ways, means and reasons why V/Line's passenger network covers the WHOLE of Victoria, not just those destinations that are 'convenient' for you to utilise.

I'll step down from my soapbox now.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Perhaps Beeching was his father!
Probably doesn't understand distances and populations beyond those found in England and Melbourne Metro.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
From my perspective, I've not been impressed with James Pinder who actually believes V/Line passenger ends at Bendigo on the Swan Hill line.

Simply not good enough Mr Pinder and there are ways, means and reasons why V/Line's passenger network covers the WHOLE of Victoria, not just those destinations that are 'convenient' for you to utilise.

I'll step down from my soapbox now.

Mike.
Perhaps Beeching was his father!
Probably doesn't understand distances and populations beyond those found in England and Melbourne Metro.
YM-Mundrabilla
Obviously couldn't even learn from England.

London-Edinburgh is about the same distance as Melbourne-Mildura.

Service in UK is 5hr journey, every 30 minutes.
Service in VIC. 8 to 11hr, hand-full per day. A lot of it by bus.

Other v/line destinations comparably as bad.
Do we expect CEO to make a difference for the better? A big fail.

cheers
John
  skitz Chief Commissioner

Yet another star recruit from the motherland ................
"YM-Mundrabilla"


out with it - Network Rail and the cronyism that goes with it.
  jakar Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I wonder if he has stood down as a member of the Emerald Tourist Railway Board?
grime
I have seen a statement from the ETRB claiming Pinder 'offered' to temporarily stand down from the board, unofficial sources claim he was forced to stand down which is more likely.

London-Edinburgh is about the same distance as Melbourne-Mildura.
Service in UK is 5hr journey, every 30 minutes.
Service in VIC. 8 to 11hr, hand-full per day. A lot of it by bus.
Other v/line destinations comparably as bad.
Do we expect CEO to make a difference for the better? A big fail.
justarider
These sort of comparisons are pointless, Endinburgh has a population of around 500,000 compared to Mildura's 30,000 plus there are some very large cities between it and London making fast frequent rail worthwhile. At any rate the decisions such as where to run trains and quality of infrastructure comes from above Pinders head at a ministerial level. Please don't read into that as me defending him, as i'm most definitely not!
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
London-Edinburgh is about the same distance as Melbourne-Mildura.

Other v/line destinations comparably as bad.
Do we expect CEO to make a difference for the better? A big fail.
These sort of comparisons are pointless, Endinburgh has a population of around 500,000

quality of infrastructure comes from above Pinders head at a ministerial level. Please don't read into that as me defending him, as i'm most definitely not!
jakar
The point of comparison is per @The Vinelanders post above.

Mr Pinder is well aware of what a quality service is. Given the responsibility to aspire for better with V/line he squibbed it, and worse, showed no interest in even trying. Mildura is just an extreme case, other lines are still decades behind.

The role of CEO is to manage and improve as best he can. That includes presenting to the board (ie the  Govt) a vision.
If(when) the Govt says  "no" that's the Govt problem to explain,  but he woulda justified his lofty salary.

cheers
John
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
My point was that he squibbed the opportunity to meet the troops along the line/bus route. Though I have no proof, I bet he even squibbed the opportunity to meet the sole troop at Mildura station as he was travelling to Merbein, a 'suburb' north west of Mildura.

Mike.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

London-Edinburgh is about the same distance as Melbourne-Mildura.

Other v/line destinations comparably as bad.
Do we expect CEO to make a difference for the better? A big fail.
These sort of comparisons are pointless, Endinburgh has a population of around 500,000

quality of infrastructure comes from above Pinders head at a ministerial level. Please don't read into that as me defending him, as i'm most definitely not!
The point of comparison is per @The Vinelanders post above.

Mr Pinder is well aware of what a quality service is. Given the responsibility to aspire for better with V/line he squibbed it, and worse, showed no interest in even trying. Mildura is just an extreme case, other lines are still decades behind.

The role of CEO is to manage and improve as best he can. That includes presenting to the board (ie the  Govt) a vision.
If(when) the Govt says  "no" that's the Govt problem to explain,  but he woulda justified his lofty salary.

cheers
John
justarider
Well said. Ultimately he can only execute what the Government allows, but James Pinder has not been what you call a visionary. You need vision when you are dealing with Coalition Governments, because they have no idea when it comes to Rail Transport. This is why V/Line is at least 20 Years behind the Rail Network of the UK.


Michael
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
London-Edinburgh is about the same distance as Melbourne-Mildura.

Other v/line destinations comparably as bad.
Do we expect CEO to make a difference for the better? A big fail.
These sort of comparisons are pointless, Endinburgh has a population of around 500,000

quality of infrastructure comes from above Pinders head at a ministerial level. Please don't read into that as me defending him, as i'm most definitely not!
The point of comparison is per @The Vinelanders post above.

Mr Pinder is well aware of what a quality service is. Given the responsibility to aspire for better with V/line he squibbed it, and worse, showed no interest in even trying. Mildura is just an extreme case, other lines are still decades behind.

The role of CEO is to manage and improve as best he can. That includes presenting to the board (ie the  Govt) a vision.
If(when) the Govt says  "no" that's the Govt problem to explain,  but he woulda justified his lofty salary.

cheers
John
Well said. Ultimately he can only execute what the Government allows, but James Pinder has not been what you call a visionary. You need vision when you are dealing with Coalition Governments, because they have no idea when it comes to Rail Transport. This is why V/Line is at least 20 Years behind the Rail Network of the UK.


Michael
mejhammers1

If you have ever travelled on the Hitachi sets that replaced the HST's on the Great Western Railway (GWR) you probably would not think that.

Mike.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

London-Edinburgh is about the same distance as Melbourne-Mildura.

Other v/line destinations comparably as bad.
Do we expect CEO to make a difference for the better? A big fail.
These sort of comparisons are pointless, Endinburgh has a population of around 500,000

quality of infrastructure comes from above Pinders head at a ministerial level. Please don't read into that as me defending him, as i'm most definitely not!
The point of comparison is per @The Vinelanders post above.

Mr Pinder is well aware of what a quality service is. Given the responsibility to aspire for better with V/line he squibbed it, and worse, showed no interest in even trying. Mildura is just an extreme case, other lines are still decades behind.

The role of CEO is to manage and improve as best he can. That includes presenting to the board (ie the  Govt) a vision.
If(when) the Govt says  "no" that's the Govt problem to explain,  but he woulda justified his lofty salary.

cheers
John
Well said. Ultimately he can only execute what the Government allows, but James Pinder has not been what you call a visionary. You need vision when you are dealing with Coalition Governments, because they have no idea when it comes to Rail Transport. This is why V/Line is at least 20 Years behind the Rail Network of the UK.


Michael

If you have ever travelled on the Hitachi sets that replaced the HST's on the Great Western Railway (GWR) you probably would not think that.

Mike.
The Vinelander
I have, 2 years ago when I was visiting family in the UK. Travelled to Bath on one. Granted the seats are narrow and quite hard, but as a platform those trains are more advanced than our Velocities, which are an evolution of the Xplorer/Endevour platform which are both 1990's designs. And they don't have 60 Year old carriages hauled by old locos servicing peak journeys. Yeah, 20 Years is generous. We are way behind Mike.

Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

From my perspective, I've not been impressed with James Pinder who actually believes V/Line passenger ends at Bendigo on the Swan Hill line.

Simply not good enough Mr Pinder and there are ways, means and reasons why V/Line's passenger network covers the WHOLE of Victoria, not just those destinations that are 'convenient' for you to utilise.

I'll step down from my soapbox now.

Mike.
Perhaps Beeching was his father!
Probably doesn't understand distances and populations beyond those found in England and Melbourne Metro.
Obviously couldn't even learn from England.

London-Edinburgh is about the same distance as Melbourne-Mildura.

Service in UK is 5hr journey, every 30 minutes.
Service in VIC. 8 to 11hr, hand-full per day. A lot of it by bus.

Other v/line destinations comparably as bad.
Do we expect CEO to make a difference for the better? A big fail.

cheers
John
justarider
At least he can offer input as to rolling stock.

The Service to Edinburgh is operated by Modern Electric Multiple Units and not tired old locos and cheaply made carriages. It is a damning indictment the Trains that the new Class 800 in the UK replaced, the IC225 sets consisting of Class 91 Electric locos and British Rail Mark 4 coaches are newer than the locos and N Type Carriages stock plying their trade on the long haul routes today in Victoria.

And as for services to Geelong, he should have been presenting a vision of frequent services using a new build of Interurban EMU. Trying to provide intense commuter services (i.e every 20 mins or greater) using DMU's aint going to end well in the long run.


Michael
  Carnot Minister for Railways
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Kickbacks from the firm whom run the cleaning on the trains overseen by Pinder?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Wow!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
V/Line is rotten to the management core it would seem.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Wow!
Carnot
GTFO.  This is not even trying to hide stuff.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The late Norm Gallagher was more discrete....
  grime Locomotive Fireman

I guess Mr Pinder will not be asked back to resume his position on the Emerald Tourist Railway Board,but plenty of other guest slots on Commonwealth Govt Boards. Smile
  david harvey Chief Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale Wharf Line
Prior to the IBAC investigation will Mr Pinders passport (assuming that he is a flight risk) be handed in.


I heard a the grapevine that there was a cleaning contract put forward for somebody to polish the rails, but it could be just a rumour.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
V/Line is rotten to the management core it would seem.
bevans

V/Line Passenger has many good and devoted employees, all working hard to improve the business, which till the pandemic was a huge success story.
My interactions with Pinder have been posted in these pages previously, so it could be said I have an agenda about him.

For sure Pinder has ruined his career and will soon be back in the UK with his tail between his legs...but that doesn't mean anyone can tar V/Line employees with the same brush.

This was a shameful comment, said without a scrap of evidence Exclamation

Mike.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

Noting the comments in The Age above, I wonder whether they were more annoyed about the cleaning contracts, or spending so much on consultants for Murray Basin and Ballarat line upgrades yet getting such poor and delayed outcomes.

And then the dreadful new build V’locity trains with those awful steel seats and access steps that have seen at least two staff injured; goodness knows why the union or WorkSafe hasn’t banned them.

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