Grain Harvest 2020-21

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

https://www.facebook.com/WINNewsBendigo/posts/3583819738336785
Near the end of that clip Jacinta Allan says she hopes the work will be ready for next year's grain season

I wonder if that means no changes at all to the network are expected this year or if something like Inglewood > Eaglehawk or a crossing loop or 2 could still be on the cards to help out the Sea Lake and Manang lines

The harvest is looking like a big 'un which is likely to mean trucks, trucks and more trucks belting up and down our highways and byways
BrentonGolding
I interpreted that as the status quo until mid-2021, and then re-gauge before Dec 2021.  I suppose more will be revealed later today...  A lot depends on who stumps up the cash, if at all.

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  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

https://www.facebook.com/WINNewsBendigo/posts/3583819738336785
Near the end of that clip Jacinta Allan says she hopes the work will be ready for next year's grain season

I wonder if that means no changes at all to the network are expected this year or if something like Inglewood > Eaglehawk or a crossing loop or 2 could still be on the cards to help out the Sea Lake and Manang lines

The harvest is looking like a big 'un which is likely to mean trucks, trucks and more trucks belting up and down our highways and byways
BrentonGolding
Responsible Victorian Ministers need to get Inglewood  Eaglehawk re-opened NOW as fit for purpose 40 - 50 kmh operation or otherwise they are condemning us to at least two years grain harvests with 90 extra road trucks for each grain train that cannot be run on the Sea Lake / Manangatang lines. It is not a case of one or other. he MB as is is a complete and utter stuff up, badly scoped, badly costed, poorly executed. Inglewood Eaglehawk capacity is needed now broad gauge wise, AND medium term has regular train traffic either as broad, or future standard gauge. So get on with it and stop playing the ploy it is one or the other.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
This will be making a lot of cropping farmers nervous.

  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
I was under the impression, especially in the Mallee that more rain as needed? Hopefully the winds aren't too damaging. Hopefully more beneficial overall than damaging.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
I was under the impression, especially in the Mallee that more rain as needed? Hopefully the winds aren't too damaging. Hopefully more beneficial overall than damaging.
cbinyon
Bit of a balancing act at this point in the growing season. 4 day forecast is for 50-75 mm of rain, or 2-3 inches for those that work that way, in some parts of the cropping country. I suspect those getting the 75mm forecast would rather it closer to 50 mm at this point in the season, possibly a little less. Wouldn't want any more than 5 mm of rain per event in occasional showers now through until mid-late December after this one. perhaps another 25-30 mm spread over the next 2 months. wind will be a hassle for some. if it comes with a lot of rain, that will be more of an issue than if there was not much rain.

Those in Canola areas will be more worried that others, as it will be starting to dry down now. Cereals not as much, but will be still watch closely.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/watl/rainfall/pme.jsp?ref=ftr
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
This will be making a lot of cropping farmers nervous.
Jack Le Lievre
Well nothing too extreme occurred Jack, Got a few messages from Kaniva in the West to Korong Vale in the East, 25 - 35ml throughout a lot of the Wimmera and down into the Western District. The rain in the East Wimmera, Donald 15 and I've said Korong Vale, 11ml still at this time of year a handy drop.

This will definitely finish the drops off beautifully, however a few said their hay was bloody saturated but the Wimmera is going straight into some nice sunny weather and quite warm mid next week, so I wouldn't think the rain has effected hay to much and will dry out quickly.

As Galron said it's a bit of a juggling act this time of the season.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/flood/wimmera_mallee.shtml  

BigShunter.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
According to Gheringhap Loop Sightings page, there has been a QUBE containerised grain operating this week. Through Gheringhap on the Down early on Tuesday (1:25am) with 44202, 8037, 1106 and RL303 up the front with 39 wagons, then returning on the up through Gheringhap just before midnight on the same day.

Is this new work? Where are these containers being loaded? What is there destination?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Tuesday's train was 6765 sounds like SA?

As it returned on the UP it was KS1 meaning Sydney.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
According to Gheringhap Loop Sightings page, there has been a QUBE containerised grain operating this week. Through Gheringhap on the Down early on Tuesday (1:25am) with 44202, 8037, 1106 and RL303 up the front with 39 wagons, then returning on the up through Gheringhap just before midnight on the same day.

Is this new work? Where are these containers being loaded? What is there destination?
Gman_86

That is the box grain that operates from Minto in Sydney (not sure what commodity it carries but might be barley for malting?). Usually just runs to various places in NSW to load but has been travelling further afield due to the drought up there. It's been to Dimboola quite a few times now as well as a couple of trips to South Aus.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
After running a load of grain into Appleton Dock over the weekend, CLF's 1 and 3 made their first visit to Warrackside yesterday the first CLF's to do so after CLP12 was the doyen for the CL's a week previously.



https://youtu.be/acea0HagaWU
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Quite a bit of variability in this year's crop condition and potential yield from what I gather.

- Wimmera is looking really good again.
- North Mallee and Moulamein region not great (really missed the rain this year). Average to below average likely.
- South Mallee, Northern Country and Goulburn Valley looks good. There has been some frost damage in patches.
- East of Deniliquin looks good too.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Quite a bit of variability in this year's crop condition and potential yield from what I gather.

- Wimmera is looking really good again.
- North Mallee and Moulamein region not great (really missed the rain this year). Average to below average likely.
- South Mallee, Northern Country and Goulburn Valley looks good. There has been some frost damage in patches.
- East of Deniliquin looks good too.
Carnot
Given how most of the last 10 or so years have gone, most farmers would take an average yield every day of the week. In general, one might say above average yeilds expected, with some local variability.

I also take it we are talking Canola/Wheat/Barley etc, rather than Rice out of Southern NSW?, not that we cart that in bulk as a rule AFAIK. I had seen suggestions that wasnt the best due to low river levels and associated water allocations, but next year could be different?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Quite a bit of variability in this year's crop condition and potential yield from what I gather.

- Wimmera is looking really good again.
- North Mallee and Moulamein region not great (really missed the rain this year). Average to below average likely.
- South Mallee, Northern Country and Goulburn Valley looks good. There has been some frost damage in patches.
- East of Deniliquin looks good too.
Carnot
Given how most of the last 10 or so years have gone, most farmers would take an average yield every day of the week. In general, one might say above average yeilds expected, with some local variability.

I also take it we are talking Canola/Wheat/Barley etc, rather than Rice out of Southern NSW?, not that we cart that in bulk as a rule AFAIK. I had seen suggestions that wasnt the best due to low river levels and associated water allocations, but next year could be different?
"Galron"


I was referring to wheat/barely mainly.  NSW rice forecasts are looking OK.  Probably below average but way way better than this year's non-harvest.  After April 2021 we should see a couple of containerized rice trains per week out of Deniliquin going by the latest figures.  It won't be daily like it was in 2012 though.

https://www.agriculture.gov.au/abares/research-topics/agricultural-outlook/australian-crop-report/new-south-wales
  Lachlan's Train Channel Station Master

Location: Mildura, Victoria
Quite a bit of variability in this year's crop condition and potential yield from what I gather.

- Wimmera is looking really good again.
- North Mallee and Moulamein region not great (really missed the rain this year). Average to below average likely.
- South Mallee, Northern Country and Goulburn Valley looks good. There has been some frost damage in patches.
- East of Deniliquin looks good too.
Carnot
While we in Mildura at least, haven't had as much rain as other areas we have had a decent amount of rain (certainly more than we had last year). Correct me if I'm wrong. It's certainly pretty green up here.
So far in October we've had 16mm of rain (average 29mm) so far in Mildura, 25mm in September, (slightly below the 27mm average)  41.6mm in August. (above the 26mm average) (according to http://www.farmonlineweather.com.au/station.jsp?lt=site&lc=76031&list=rb ). Assuming that amount of rain continues we can expect lots of grain out of Yelta, Carwarp and Ouyen. I wonder what's the minimum for a good harvest?

Areas around Manangatang and Robinvale look really good. Very green, lots of crops growing.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Quite a bit of variability in this year's crop condition and potential yield from what I gather.

- Wimmera is looking really good again.
- North Mallee and Moulamein region not great (really missed the rain this year). Average to below average likely.
- South Mallee, Northern Country and Goulburn Valley looks good. There has been some frost damage in patches.
- East of Deniliquin looks good too.
Carnot
While we in Mildura at least, haven't had as much rain as other areas we have had a decent amount of rain (certainly more than we had last year). Correct me if I'm wrong. It's certainly pretty green up here.
So far in October we've had 16mm of rain (average 29mm) so far in Mildura, 25mm in September, (slightly below the 27mm average)  41.6mm in August. (above the 26mm average) (according to http://www.farmonlineweather.com.au/station.jsp?lt=site&lc=76031&list=rb ). Assuming that amount of rain continues we can expect lots of grain out of Yelta, Carwarp and Ouyen. I wonder what's the minimum for a good harvest?

Areas around Manangatang and Robinvale look really good. Very green, lots of crops growing.
"Lachlan's Train Channel"


Yep, Manangatang and Robinvale is looking good, along with Ouyen.  Werrimul region wasn't too great unless things have changed. The NW lines are going to be super busy (if they can get the paths) in the next 12 months.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
The mid October crop comparison is now on the donaldweatherstation Instagram site.
Shows a site on a local farm for the past 7 years, except 2015 as it wasn't worth a photo!
It also includes the yearly rainfall for the Donald area over the past 7 years.
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
There were some decent falls overnight. Swan Hill had 20mm, Mildura almost the same. Hopefully doing more good than harm at this stage.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
From my understanding the border restrictions also effect the harvesting contractors with their machinery, I was of the belief the contractors followed the harvest starting in Queensland and moved south .
Someone with a bit more knowledge of this might be helpful (BS).   Dick's question from the old thread.

Correct Dick, there is a real cavalcade of people that follow the harvest from The Darling Downs, QLD right through NSW into Victoria and into the South East SA.

The whole crew, header contractors, grain trucks as well as the people that become staff both indoors and ground staff at probably any of the grain sites around.
BigShunter
A while back Dick asked about harvest contractors traveling North etc. An example here of a contractor from Donald working away on some very good crops on the NSW QLD boarder.

While Donald has had pretty good harvests the last few years and you might think everyone is making a few good bucks, with the drought in NSW & QLD the last couple of years and no work for the likes of this bloke, would still be having a fairly big effect on his business you would imagine.

https://www.theland.com.au/story/6973947/harvest-race-on-to-beat-rain-and-storms/

Link, The Land Facebook, bit of a weather report as well.

BigShunter.
  Richard stroker Junior Train Controller

Thanks for link BS , did you get my Pm I sent ?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Update from near Bridgewater.  Big crop...
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=267329934603451
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Related, sort of

Issued Today at 1522

This message is being issued for Nareewillock.

There is a haystack fire at Nareewillock approximately 6km North East of Charlton.
Haystack fires are not likely to spread into grassland but do generate a lot of smoke.
Smoke will be visible from nearby roads and communities, in particular, the Boort-Charlton Road with smoke impacting the road. Drivers may have reduced visibility.
Firefighters are attending to this fire and will be on scene for some time.


http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#!/warning/14918/moreinfo
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
How damaging has the heavy rainfall been over the past week or so? More heavy rain falling now and into tomorrow, especially in the Mallee. Shame it didn't fall 4 - 6 weeks ago up there.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The cutting of hay has been impacted a fair bit, with some quality downgrades.  Hopefully not too much rain through today in the Mallee, but warm and dry weather is expected over the next week or so.

Grain prices are strong atm. Significantly higher than the big 2016 harvest.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
How damaging has the heavy rainfall been over the past week or so? More heavy rain falling now and into tomorrow, especially in the Mallee. Shame it didn't fall 4 - 6 weeks ago up there.
cbinyon
Yes, could be the next thing on the horizon, the harvest isn't big till it's in the bag as some of james' crew in NSW are finding out.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/flood/wimmera_mallee.shtml

NSW farmers look for financial help after suffering crop losses in freak hailstorms.

As soon as the farmer from the NSW Central West heard the roar of the hail, he realised what would happen to his crops.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2020-10-30/storm-affected-farmers-in-nsw-seek-financial-help/12826008?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf239396760&utm_campaign=abc_rural&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf239396760=1

CFA issues hay warning.


Recent rainfall in north-western Victoria has prompted concerns that hay currently being baled is too wet and could cause spontaneous combustion if not monitored appropriately, the CFA has warned.

https://www.dimboolacourier.com.au/news.php?newsid=5149

BigShunter.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Now China are wanting to ban imports of Australian wheat.  That would've been a $600 million export next year...

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