Taiwan is a shathole and I wouldn’t go to war over it. As far as I am concerned the Chinese Communists can have it. Full of the ex mainland nationalist criminals that Mao rightfully kicked out.
Not that I agree with the way the mainland is run now.
But what can we do about it especially if we want to sell our stuff to them?

You sound suspiciously like a CCP shill - "they can have it".

And we can survive without China... we did it before, we can do it again.

Sure, we can survive without China, but with China we can have all the fancy new frippery that money can buy, and unfortunately the shiny baubles are what Australians want. I, personally, could, and often do, live like an Orthodox Monk in Vysotsky, but I realise many of the 'Bunnings Barbeque' types that have infested this fair land do not suffer such trials, and want their new Apple. If that be it, then China it is.

Sure, we can survive without China, but with China we can have all the fancy new frippery that money can buy, and unfortunately the shiny baubles are what Australians want. I, personally, could, and often do, live like an Orthodox Monk in Vysotsky, but I realise many of the 'Bunnings Barbeque' types that have infested this fair land do not suffer such trials, and want their new Apple. If that be it, then China it is.

Everyone in China - even the very rich - live with a big hammer over their collective heads that could come crashing down at any moment. Certainly everyone here at Railpage would be long gone into compulsory 're-education' - even the people who post pro-China things would be carefully monitored for any signs of counter-revolutionary tendencies.

China will not stop until we completely surrender to them as a vassal state - that's the outcome that they want. Unfortunately they have lots of useful idiots here in the form of people like Twiggy Forrest and Gina Rinehart, pretty much the entire Labor Party and even the leadership of the university sector who will on the CCP's behalf make sure that we align ourselves with CCP values. We really have to understand what giving up our freedoms are going to be about - it won't just be about not being able to post your opinions on Railpage any longer - it'll be universal so that we won't be free to speak out about things like economic equality or corruption any longer. They won't tolerate things like Black Lives Matter - all those people you saw protesting would be rounded up and off to camps so fast it would make your head spin.

The immanent problem with a Biden-led free world is that Biden himself will probably end up in an administrative war with his own Vice President to retain his leadership - at least Trump had a reasonable external focus and forced China and the threat they pose to the free world but with Biden's continuation of the appeasement policy from the Obama era it'll be 'business as usual' for the soft power push and economic coercion - we're seeing it right now with the unofficial banning of Australian products in China.

Sure, we can survive without China, but with China we can have all the fancy new frippery that money can buy, and unfortunately the shiny baubles are what Australians want. I, personally, could, and often do, live like an Orthodox Monk in Vysotsky, but I realise many of the 'Bunnings Barbeque' types that have infested this fair land do not suffer such trials, and want their new Apple. If that be it, then China it is.

least Trump had a reasonable external focus and forced China and the threat they pose to the free world

I think you mean he gave the CCP validation to act agressively. Trump was still paying subsidies to all those farmers he smeg over with his "Trade War" which he constantly changed and watered down the details of.

Sure, we can survive without China, but with China we can have all the fancy new frippery that money can buy, and unfortunately the shiny baubles are what Australians want. I, personally, could, and often do, live like an Orthodox Monk in Vysotsky, but I realise many of the 'Bunnings Barbeque' types that have infested this fair land do not suffer such trials, and want their new Apple. If that be it, then China it is.

least Trump had a reasonable external focus and forced China and the threat they pose to the free world

I think you mean he gave the CCP validation to act agressively. Trump was still paying subsidies to all those farmers he smeg over with his "Trade War" which he constantly changed and watered down the details of.

LOL yeah right and yet the CCP plays really fair don't they as we're seeing right now with our own nation...

Sure, we can survive without China, but with China we can have all the fancy new frippery that money can buy, and unfortunately the shiny baubles are what Australians want. I, personally, could, and often do, live like an Orthodox Monk in Vysotsky, but I realise many of the 'Bunnings Barbeque' types that have infested this fair land do not suffer such trials, and want their new Apple. If that be it, then China it is.

least Trump had a reasonable external focus and forced China and the threat they pose to the free world

I think you mean he gave the CCP validation to act agressively. Trump was still paying subsidies to all those farmers he smeg over with his "Trade War" which he constantly changed and watered down the details of.

LOL yeah right and yet the CCP plays really fair don't they as we're seeing right now with our own nation...

They're literally using Trumps failure to do anything with stopping Covid as propaganda right now.

Sure, we can survive without China, but with China we can have all the fancy new frippery that money can buy, and unfortunately the shiny baubles are what Australians want. I, personally, could, and often do, live like an Orthodox Monk in Vysotsky, but I realise many of the 'Bunnings Barbeque' types that have infested this fair land do not suffer such trials, and want their new Apple. If that be it, then China it is.

least Trump had a reasonable external focus and forced China and the threat they pose to the free world

I think you mean he gave the CCP validation to act agressively. Trump was still paying subsidies to all those farmers he smeg over with his "Trade War" which he constantly changed and watered down the details of.

LOL yeah right and yet the CCP plays really fair don't they as we're seeing right now with our own nation...

They're literally using Trumps failure to do anything with stopping Covid as propaganda right now.

That has nothing to do with what's being discussed. And anyway, which country handled the virus well? Nobody did, WHO was telling people not to shut their borders right up until mid-February.

Why is this thread even a thing? Shouldn't you all wait till all the lawsuits are done and the counting over and a certain victor declared? If Biden Wins then unlock this thread. Simples.

Why is this thread even a thing? Shouldn't you all wait till all the lawsuits are done and the counting over and a certain victor declared? If Biden Wins then unlock this thread. Simples.

Because most people seem to think that Biden/Harris is a fait accompli.

Why is this thread even a thing? Shouldn't you all wait till all the lawsuits are done and the counting over and a certain victor declared? If Biden Wins then unlock this thread. Simples.

It's DONE DUDE! The only thing stopping Biden claiming victory is that the US media are being uncharacteristically shy about declaring him the winner. He is 15K votes ahead in Pennsylvania which with it's 20 college votes will be enough to get him over the line

note - as someone who said Trump couldn't win in 2016 my opinion should be taken with a bit more than a pinch of salt

I'm sure you meant to say president Trump Don

In anticipation...the Chinese CCP has ordered the construction of a new locale called...(for)Biden City...!

Why is this thread even a thing? Shouldn't you all wait till all the lawsuits are done and the counting over and a certain victor declared? If Biden Wins then unlock this thread. Simples.

It's DONE DUDE! The only thing stopping Biden claiming victory is that the US media are being uncharacteristically shy about declaring him the winner. He is 15K votes ahead in Pennsylvania which with it's 20 college votes will be enough to get him over the line

note - as someone who said Trump couldn't win in 2016 my opinion should be taken with a bit more than a pinch of salt

Alas, Mr G....you're thinking of Australia style AEC run elections.

Get this...The Republicans have retained the Senate Majority and in the House of Reps. (Congress) the Republicans have actually reduced the Democrats majority by FLIPPING Democrat seats...!

Amazingly..."Sleepy Joe" Biden has somehow got MORE votes than Barack Obama did as the Most Popular President...ever..!?

Re. the US election....It ain't done yet...Trump had "Sleepy Joe" Biden beaten in the popular vote...winning in Florida and handily leading in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Texas, North Carolina...unlike in Australia; one sleep later...Biden has suddenly accumulated votes in the 1000's while Trump has received...ZERO..!?

Dangersdan707 is correct....There's pending legal actions concerning voter fraud so it could be mid-Decembe'rish (as per the US Constitution) when the Electoral College meets and even until February 2021.

Also major voting fraud yet to be resolved too with postal ballots....

Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblower Exposes Anti-Trump Postmaster's Illegal Order To Back-Date Ballots -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR_XpJ287Iw

2nd PA USPS whistleblower: Postmaster ordered late ballots picked up; thinks they will be BACKDATED -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By7yNZsa8x0


If somehow, "Sleepy Joe" Biden gets in; he'll be replaced by the ultra-radical Leftist /Socialist (Progressive) Kamala Harris in the same month, and "Sleepy Joe" Biden retired to the Old Folks Home....

Why is this thread even a thing? Shouldn't you all wait till all the lawsuits are done and the counting over and a certain victor declared? If Biden Wins then unlock this thread. Simples.

It's DONE DUDE! The only thing stopping Biden claiming victory is that the US media are being uncharacteristically shy about declaring him the winner. He is 15K votes ahead in Pennsylvania which with it's 20 college votes will be enough to get him over the line

note - as someone who said Trump couldn't win in 2016 my opinion should be taken with a bit more than a pinch of salt

Alas, Mr G....you're thinking of Australia style AEC run elections.

Get this...The Republicans have retained the Senate Majority and in the House of Reps. (Congress) the Republicans have actually reduced the Democrats majority by FLIPPING Democrat seats...!

Amazingly..."Sleepy Joe" Biden has somehow got MORE votes than Barack Obama did as the Most Popular President...ever..!?

Re. the US election....It ain't done yet...Trump had "Sleepy Joe" Biden beaten in the popular vote...winning in Florida and handily leading in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Texas, North Carolina...unlike in Australia; one sleep later...Biden has suddenly accumulated votes in the 1000's while Trump has received...ZERO..!?

Dangersdan707 is correct....There's pending legal actions concerning voter fraud so it could be mid-Decembe'rish (as per the US Constitution) when the Electoral College meets and even until February 2021.

Also major voting fraud yet to be resolved too with postal ballots....

Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblower Exposes Anti-Trump Postmaster's Illegal Order To Back-Date Ballots -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR_XpJ287Iw

2nd PA USPS whistleblower: Postmaster ordered late ballots picked up; thinks they will be BACKDATED -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By7yNZsa8x0


If somehow, "Sleepy Joe" Biden gets in; he'll be replaced by the ultra-radical Leftist /Socialist (Progressive) Kamala Harris in the same month, and "Sleepy Joe" Biden retired to the Old Folks Home....

If you think that Kamala Harris is ultra left, I want what you are smoking.

There is no electoral fraud. Project Veritas, really?

Just accept it. Pennsylvania will go blue and as a result Trump will lose.



Michael

If somehow, "Sleepy Joe" Biden gets in; he'll be replaced by the ultra-radical Leftist /Socialist (Progressive) Kamala Harris in the same month, and "Sleepy Joe" Biden retired to the Old Folks Home....

Wishful thinking!

Alas, Mr G....you're thinking of Australia style AEC run elections.

Get this...The Republicans have retained the Senate Majority and in the House of Reps. (Congress) the Republicans have actually reduced the Democrats majority by FLIPPING Democrat seats...!

Amazingly..."Sleepy Joe" Biden has somehow got MORE votes than Barack Obama did as the Most Popular President...ever..!?

Re. the US election....It ain't done yet...Trump had "Sleepy Joe" Biden beaten in the popular vote...winning in Florida and handily leading in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Texas, North Carolina...unlike in Australia; one sleep later...Biden has suddenly accumulated votes in the 1000's while Trump has received...ZERO..!?

Dangersdan707 is correct....There's pending legal actions concerning voter fraud so it could be mid-Decembe'rish (as per the US Constitution) when the Electoral College meets and even until February 2021.

Also major voting fraud yet to be resolved too with postal ballots....

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If somehow, "Sleepy Joe" Biden gets in; he'll be replaced by the ultra-radical Leftist /Socialist (Progressive) Kamala Harris in the same month, and "Sleepy Joe" Biden retired to the Old Folks Home....

Gee, it's almost like they're counting postal votes last, and which candidate was telling his supporters NOT to use the postal votes? Oh that's right Trump was.

Postal absentee voting has always leaned heavily towards the Democrats, and especially with Trump's proclamation before the election- it's no surprise that Biden is coming back hard with them and it was widely predicted that he would!

And if I had a dollar for every time you wrote "Sleepy Joe" I could retire, and I'm 26 currently...

Anyway, ScoMo has called it:

Welcome to Harris town (more like it)....

Welcome to Harris town (more like it)....

Very appropriate; Harrisburg is in Pennsylvania, and that's where the final result was hanging.

If somehow, "Sleepy Joe" Biden gets in; he'll be replaced by the ultra-radical Leftist /Socialist (Progressive) Kamala Harris in the same month, and "Sleepy Joe" Biden retired to the Old Folks Home....

Wishful thinking!

Nah, I think that's exactly what will happen. Under the 25th Amendment the Vice President has the final say in deciding if the President is fit for office or not. You seriously think she's going to say 'no' to becoming the first black female President? She's power-mad, that much has been obvious listening to her speak.

AND inclusive? We already have Democrat Congressional people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeting out about "retribution" for anyone who supported Trump "when they try to deny or downplay their complicity in the future".

That really sounds inclusive, doesn't it!

TRUMP is done.

He will whine like the little biatch that he is, he will stamp his little feet and demand recounts in some states and threaten lawsuits in Pennsylvania and Arizona and everywhere else, but it will all go one way.

Come the 20th of January, Joseph R. Biden will be inaugurated as the 46th President of the United States of America.

If somehow, "Sleepy Joe" Biden gets in; he'll be replaced by the ultra-radical Leftist /Socialist (Progressive) Kamala Harris in the same month, and "Sleepy Joe" Biden retired to the Old Folks Home....

Wishful thinking!

Nah, I think that's exactly what will happen. Under the 25th Amendment the Vice President has the final say in deciding if the President is fit for office or not. You seriously think she's going to say 'no' to becoming the first black female President? She's power-mad, that much has been obvious listening to her speak.

AND inclusive? We already have Democrat Congressional people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeting out about "retribution" for anyone who supported Trump "when they try to deny or downplay their complicity in the future".

That really sounds inclusive, doesn't it!

After 3 years of Trump supporters being whiny smeg I think it's deserved. We're now at the point of "smeg inclusion of smeg people".

When the dust has settled on this page in US History, Trump and all of his associates will not be looked upon favourably. They have sewn a massive divide right through the heart of that country. This is not about inclusiveness, this is about calling out people who have enabled the fracturing of their country as the traitors they are.

These are people who have harnessed hate. Who have instilled fear to solidify their power base.

These are evil people, who deserve their place in history.

For the pro Trump supporters who are struggling with this. Its not about Biden or Harris and what they might or might not do. This election is 100% about Trump an Trumps failures and behaviour and his behaviour during the vote count and failure to acknowledge he was legitimately voted out sums it all up.

The same people will often question Biden's health forgetting that the US Pres is one of the most monitored in the world and if there was an issue the Dr's will flag it, however Trump's performance of late leaves alot more questions about his own mental health than Biden's.

Let's face facts here, this was a referendum about the handling of the Coronavirus Pandemic, nothing more, nothing less, if it hadn't of been for Coronavirus, I feel Trump would have got back in easily.

WELCOME TO THE 46TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, JOE BIDEN!!!