New VLINE timetable significantly slows down services on the Maryborough Line

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 12 Jan 2021 14:12
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
A useful review of the Maryborough timetable changes which do show a marked change to slower services and by a fair bit in fact being 10 minutes or more on some services.  

Why would V/Line see the need to slow the services between Maryborough and Ballarat is there something wrong with the track or other infrastructure that is preventing the current speeds from being maintained?

NEW VLINE TIMETABLE SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWS DOWN SERVICES ON THE MARYBOROUGH LINE

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Interesting figures.

9 weekday services each way = 18 (most days) but of the 18 only 4 are trains the remainder as buses.  I do think there is scope to improve maryborough and that involves the Maryborough to CME route as a train.

With the coaches it does seem the delays to the service are more on the rail side not the coaches.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
And another storm in a teacup that would have been better left in the ' news' thread

M.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
What is V/line playing at with the timetable for Maryborough providing for longer transit times. The father away you are from Melbourne the shorter time possible is something you want. Why increase the tone to get between your cities in the new timetable with the new money spent on Ballarat. But seeing the issue is the same via Bendigo what is the reason for slowing Bendigo services ?
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
WHY IS THIS THREAD SO SHOUTY?

Oh, it's based off a Regional Rail Alliance article, never mind.


In all seriousness though, is this a real-world slow down? Or is it just V/Line adding extra fat into their timetable again to counter for the extra time their services were already taking?
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Wasn't there a forum rule against topics with all capital letters? Or has that fallen by the wayside?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Wasn't there a forum rule against topics with all capital letters? Or has that fallen by the wayside?
Greensleeves

It snuck through on a news item.  occasionally I miss especially with the changes to the platform earlier this week.  I do apologise,
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
WHY IS THIS THREAD SO SHOUTY?

Oh, it's based off a Regional Rail Alliance article, never mind.


In all seriousness though, is this a real-world slow down? Or is it just V/Line adding extra fat into their timetable again to counter for the extra time their services were already taking?
Gman_86

Well this is the question really.  This timetable for Maryborough (staying on topic) is not a great outcome for the regional town some services taking 16 minutes longer.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
It's an outrage!

The 2009 timetable to Maryborough should be reinstated immediately.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
WHY IS THIS THREAD SO SHOUTY?

Oh, it's based off a Regional Rail Alliance article, never mind.


In all seriousness though, is this a real-world slow down? Or is it just V/Line adding extra fat into their timetable again to counter for the extra time their services were already taking?
Gman_86

It does not make sense when you consider there are no changes to the track between Ballarat and Maryborough and the infrastructure between Ballarat and Melbourne has just had $500m invested, albeit on useless projects like stabling outside of Bacchus Marsh when existing was available and passing loops which we are yet to see the value.  All the new infrastructure should make for more trains on a current timetable transit time not more infrastructure = less faster trains.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
The stabling at Bacchus marsh had to be moved to make way for the new platform.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
The stabling at Bacchus marsh had to be moved to make way for the new platform.
railblogger

There is nothing left at Bacchus Marsh?
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Moved to Maddingley siding.  I think that's to facilitate a second platform at Bacchus Marsh.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Moved to Maddingley siding.  I think that's to facilitate a second platform at Bacchus Marsh.
route14
Correct. Several new stations, duplication to Melton, duplicating Ballan station, making a new yard outside of Baccus Marsh so you can duplicate the platforms.

And a certain RP member is wondering where all the money got spent.

I wonder if all the timetable padding is west of Ballarat?
  route14 Chief Commissioner

I think straighter and longer loops will certainly help punctuality and capacity.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
Moved to Maddingley siding.  I think that's to facilitate a second platform at Bacchus Marsh.
Correct. Several new stations, duplication to Melton, duplicating Ballan station, making a new yard outside of Baccus Marsh so you can duplicate the platforms.

And a certain RP member is wondering where all the money got spent.

I wonder if all the timetable padding is west of Ballarat?
speedemon08
To remove any ambiguity, the 2nd platform is not just envisioned, its completed.

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/bacchus-marsh-station
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
The stabling at Bacchus marsh had to be moved to make way for the new platform.

There is nothing left at Bacchus Marsh?
NSWGR8022
All that is left at Bacchus Marsh is a single siding on the down side of the station and a short siding on the Up side that provides access to the turntable road. All of the stabling sidings were removed in 2019.

The sad thing is that the work done to the Ballarat line is pretty decent. There is no excuse for the disappointment that is the new timetable.

V/Line really should do better with what they have been given.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Even with the new platform there should have been space to retain several roads on the downside of Bacchus Marsh. Create new stabling rather than altering existing would have been very costly and an inconvenience to drivers.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
Even with the new platform there should have been space to retain several roads on the downside of Bacchus Marsh. Create new stabling rather than altering existing would have been very costly and an inconvenience to drivers.
freightgate
mmmm yeah, lets think about that.

Massive improvement for passengers, bus & car interchange. You know them, the reason for a stations existence.
OR
driver "where do I park the train ??? , oh yeah outside the new lunch rooms, where I parked my car this morning."

Ps 12 new train spots, instead of 5.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The photos here may assist: https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/bacchus-marsh-station
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
' ..... an inconvenience to drivers .... '
Oh dear, how sad , never mind, too bad.

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