Sums it up brilliantly (even though I am neither your mother or your father).
"If your instructions can be understood by my mother, they're OK. If not, go and rewrite them and remember you're instructing people outside your own field of expertise."Hmm not sure I totally agree with this.
Just to confirm in my old mind! Am I correct in understanding that APFT is a 'former/archaic' code for Forrest which is now known as FOS / YFRT?Forrest data https://ourairports.com/airports/YFRT/
I was offered a flight from Forrest to Adelaide 20 odd years ago, (no doubt in a light plane of some sort), but declined preferring to travel on the much slower train.
Regards
YM
We are talking two different things here."If your instructions can be understood by my mother, they're OK. If not, go and rewrite them and remember you're instructing people outside your own field of expertise."Hmm not sure I totally agree with this.
Yes keep it simple, but in a former life, if I was to try and write instructions to my specialists (outside my core field) that my mother could understand id be writing a small book of background content that was patronising to them...
There is room for complexity in this world and we should ensure we dont miss out on the big prizes by oversimplifying things at the foundational levels.
Thanks for the WA perspective bulbous.
Whats the view on NG vs SG in the areas with NG lines? Does CBH/Watco have a preference?
Hmm not sure I totally agree with this.I am not, and never was talking about correspondence to specialists. My comments (and those which I quoted from my son) were directed towards instructions for the lay person using equipment; in this case, computers. I thought you may have figured that out.
Yes keep it simple, but in a former life, if I was to try and write instructions to my specialists (outside my core field) that my mother could understand id be writing a small book of background content that was patronising to them...
Petan.Just to confirm in my old mind! Am I correct in understanding that APFT is a 'former/archaic' code for Forrest which is now known as FOS / YFRT?Forrest data https://ourairports.com/airports/YFRT/
I was offered a flight from Forrest to Adelaide 20 odd years ago, (no doubt in a light plane of some sort), but declined preferring to travel on the much slower train.
Regards
YM
Shows as APFT on this website http://aviation.bmkg.go.id/web/station.php?c=AU&pn=0&lang=en
Geoff Goodall has some history of planes and trains at Forrest and the airfield that served the interstate air link with dignity
http://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/forrest-airport/forrestairport.html
Yes APFT was the location indicator when there was a manned Flight Service Unit there. The acronyms were made up from: A for Australia; P for Perth ie Western Australia; and FT for Forrest. In later years it was a refuelling stop for the AerMacchi RAAF training aircraft which didn't have the endurance to fly non-stop Adelaide - Perth particularly if there were headwinds.Thanks CPH8. Another thing that I have learned today!
The Forrest Flight Information Zone was only a 10 nautical mile radius location, within the Kalgoorlie (APKG) Flight Information Area. All these places were shut down in the late 1980's/early 1990's by Mr. Smith. I finished up at Dubbo (ASDU) in November 1991, six months before it shut down. Flight Service was the predecessor to Air Traffic Control, introduced as Aeradio in 1938 after the airliner crash in the Snowy Mountains because the pilot didn't have radio to get an updated weather forecast. Ah the good old days of morse code!
Interesting detail - i didnt know about these plans. Are there any reports etc out there that go into the detail some more? SG of all the northern branches looks like a substantial conversion job. Bigger than Murray Basin perhaps...Thanks for the WA perspective bulbous.
Whats the view on NG vs SG in the areas with NG lines? Does CBH/Watco have a preference?
Watco/CBH have a good sized fleet of 16/19 tonne axle load narrow gauge locos and wagons, so the emphasis focusses more on the turnaround times from bin to port, and the loading speeds of the bins themselves.
I believe that if CBH/Watco had to fund the line reconstructions themselves, they would likely continue with NG, but long term planning through the Department of Transport is for all of the narrow gauge lines north of the eastern main line to Kalgoorlie to be standardised, with the Miling line to go to 24 tonne axle loading (the remainder to be 19/21 tonne). The Geraldton line was to be dual gauged for part, and standardised the rest, dual gauge to go to Brookton on the Albany line, with the rest to be reconstructed accordingly.
Cheers,
Matt.
Does the whole loco fleet have SG bogie frames?Interesting detail - i didnt know about these plans. Are there any reports etc out there that go into the detail some more? SG of all the northern branches looks like a substantial conversion job. Bigger than Murray Basin perhaps...Thanks for the WA perspective bulbous.
Whats the view on NG vs SG in the areas with NG lines? Does CBH/Watco have a preference?
Watco/CBH have a good sized fleet of 16/19 tonne axle load narrow gauge locos and wagons, so the emphasis focusses more on the turnaround times from bin to port, and the loading speeds of the bins themselves.
I believe that if CBH/Watco had to fund the line reconstructions themselves, they would likely continue with NG, but long term planning through the Department of Transport is for all of the narrow gauge lines north of the eastern main line to Kalgoorlie to be standardised, with the Miling line to go to 24 tonne axle loading (the remainder to be 19/21 tonne). The Geraldton line was to be dual gauged for part, and standardised the rest, dual gauge to go to Brookton on the Albany line, with the rest to be reconstructed accordingly.
Cheers,
Matt.
The CBH fleet, how convertible is it? Theyre the same locos on SG and NG so it should be a case of new bogies for the most part no?
Interesting detail - i didnt know about these plans. Are there any reports etc out there that go into the detail some more? SG of all the northern branches looks like a substantial conversion job. Bigger than Murray Basin perhaps...
The CBH fleet, how convertible is it? Theyre the same locos on SG and NG so it should be a case of new bogies for the most part no?
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Bombala (tourist train to snowfields, and a new loop along far south coast e.g. Merimbula northwards to the Illawarra).
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The line from Bumbunga to Lochiel is surely a prime candidate for reopening. Fine scenery en route, and such an under-rated attraction at the destination. Would make an ideal tourist railway; bet the international travelers have never seen anything like itLess than 8km? If there's a demand, surely a bus can handle it?
In NSW what about Murwillumbah, Newcastle, Ropes Creek and Maybe Cooma, Camden, Castle Hill, Sandown and Kurrajong? Many of the latter lines are in areas that have grown since their closure.I explained why the Southport / Tweed Heads ones are not an obvious ones very early in this thread and have done so for years on Railpage. I have posted many times in other Railpage threads also for years about the Northern Rivers population now living a distance from the 1890s built Murwillumbah rail route.
In Queensland the Southport and Tweed Heads railways.
In Victoria what about the Victorian Railways tramways?
In South Australia what about the lines to the Barossa Valley, Peterborough, Semaphore and the second Glenelg line,?
Now, NSW; Main North Line from Armidale to Wallangarra,Perhaps it could have been retained as far as Tenterfield, but unlikely that it could ever be justified to Wallangarra. That is unless the SG was extended to Toowoomba or perhaps Brisbane via a more direct route. Yep, real pie in the sky stuff there!