The corona virus COVID-19

 
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
In other news, Telstra is going to reward it's employees who get vaccinated as an incentive to increase vaccination rates. The reward? 200 Appreciate Points! Oooh, imagine the things you would do if you had 200 Appreciate Points. I wonder what the exchange rate is to Brownie Points or Skippy Badges?

https://au.yahoo.com/finance/news/200-cash-telstra-vaccine-000143123.html
303gunner
In a letter Andy Penn wrote to the staff, it's a 1:1 ratio.

If only the Telstra Rewards points were the same.

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Apparently THAT engagement party in Caulfield will see fines totaling $350k dished out.  Pretty expensive evening.
”Carnot”
Six new cases linked to the party, and counting. That's the bit that infuriates me.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Apparently THAT engagement party in Caulfield will see fines totaling $350k dished out.  Pretty expensive evening.
Six new cases linked to the party, and counting. That's the bit that infuriates me.
Valvegear
Thats the Jewish one making jokes about their list of excuses?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Apparently THAT engagement party in Caulfield will see fines totaling $350k dished out.  Pretty expensive evening.
They'll either get off one way or another. Fines will be quietly withdrawn, surreptitiously not issued or they will just not pay. They will have the money, influence or talent to avoid conviction.
Only mugs obey the law or pay fines here in Wictoria.
Treat Covid fines like Tertiary education debt, hold it against personal income tax, garnish it from employers and/or via income tax returns.
Aaron
Good idea.

Now go one step further, all fines and yes if not paid by end of life, then it comes from estate.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/man-jailed-after-travelling-from-sydney-to-armidale/100383312

Haven't we seen this story before? Why is NSW TrainLink or any interurban train still running?

The Armidale residents would have had enough by now.

The authorities should have stopped the train in the middle of bugger all (Marla style).
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/man-jailed-after-travelling-from-sydney-to-armidale/100383312

Haven't we seen this story before? Why is NSW TrainLink or any interurban train still running?

The Armidale residents would have had enough by now.

The authorities should have stopped the train in the middle of bugger all (Marla style).
ANR
I would assume so people living in regional NSW who cannot drive can get to and from Sydney for essential purposes including important medical appointments.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
In other news, Telstra is going to reward it's employees who get vaccinated as an incentive to increase vaccination rates. The reward? 200 Appreciate Points! Oooh, imagine the things you would do if you had 200 Appreciate Points. I wonder what the exchange rate is to Brownie Points or Skippy Badges?

https://au.yahoo.com/finance/news/200-cash-telstra-vaccine-000143123.html
303gunner
If anyone knows anyone that works at Telstra, ask them how many 'Zings' that is. Telstra have this thing where employees who do good things get awarded a zing, a pile of Zings and they can get like a $20 Bunnings voucher.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Only in NSW are "shops which predominately sell maternity and baby supplies" considered essential retail! Doesnt Gladys realize that you can buy essential maternity and baby supplies from a chemist shop?
Gayspie
When SA had it's last lockdown, the shower tap decided to spring a leak, I was going to leave it, but then I got worried it might be also leaking water behind the tiling/wall. I figured I was going to have to hope that Bunnings was doing click and collect or something, which is when I realised they were still open, 'for essential services' - I actually thought they would be closed altogether.

I go to Bunnings to get my new tap fitting, and as I am walking to the door, out the other door comes a woman carrying what must have been at least 6 large daisy plants in pots. I asked the girl at the door what essential meant if people were buying potted flowers and she said 'yeah, we are not allowed to tell them they cannot buy stuff', I walk in and there are couples in the paint aisle discussing colours for walls, I get to the bathroom section and there is a couple discussing which different kitchen taps and sink to get and whether they should have a kitchen tap that matched in the bathrooms and laundry. At the checkout leaving the guy in front of me had a few bags of potting soil and a bunch of seedlings.

So apparently Adelaide's six day or whatever it was lockdown wasn't to prevent viral spread, it was to allow everyone plenty of time for home renovations.

Having a baby store open probably doesn't matter.

EDIT: I also had a discussion with my wife about whether it was reasonable to go to the petrol station and grab some fuel to mix for two stroke in the rotary hoe and chainsaw, I did, a couple of days later, but only because my car was close to properly empty.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I heard that in NSW the police were actually checking what people were buying at Bunnings - which is surely a waste of resources and time. Can anyone from NSW confirm that this did actually happen?

We've been EXTREMELY lucky here in comparison with other states, I for one haven't taken that for granted.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I heard that in NSW the police were actually checking what people were buying at Bunnings - which is surely a waste of resources and time. Can anyone from NSW confirm that this did actually happen?

We've been EXTREMELY lucky here in comparison with other states, I for one haven't taken that for granted.
don_dunstan
Aren't Bunnings in the lists of exposure sites? I don't think that's a waste of police time.

Unlike SA, NSW doesn't really have to worry about policing their borders right now, they may as well use those resources to at least try and force some level of compliance.

While they're trying to force some decent health advice re corona, I think the police could also be checking what necessities people are buying in supermarkets - 'Hmmm, you like you're over 150kg, do you really need four packs of chips and three blocks of chocolate, come on now, these don't seem to be necessary purchases.' OR, if that is not PC enough, how about 'You only seem to have one smeg, why do you have 84 rolls of toilet paper?'
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Ok then:
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The state of NSW reported three deaths and 633 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 on Wednesday. All of Greater Sydney, including Wollongong, Central Coast, and the Blue Mountains, entered a lockdown on June 26, which has been extended for four more weeks until at least August 28. The rest of the state went into lockdown on August 14. On Saturday, NSW police announced Operation Stay At Home which includes increased fines, spot fines, single bubble permits and tighter restrictions.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Excellent news too that Qantas will mandate vaccination for all staff.  I would've mandated it months ago tbh, and should also demand the same for all passengers.

Take that anti-vaxxers!
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Excellent news too that Qantas will mandate vaccination for all staff.  I would've mandated it months ago tbh, and should also demand the same for all passengers.

Take that anti-vaxxers!
Carnot
Any employer who does that becomes liable for any problems that you might have after the vaccination. Your risk of heart attack after having Pfizer increases quite a bit - I guess Qantas have decided that they'll wear it because out of that large workforce there will definitely be adverse reactions.

Meanwhile news that NSW Health will not return the results of your COVID19 blood test to you if they find that you are immune to it and already have antibodies. That's because they want you to have the vaccine anyway despite your natural immunity.

Immoral, unethical.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Excellent news too that Qantas will mandate vaccination for all staff.  I would've mandated it months ago tbh, and should also demand the same for all passengers.

Take that anti-vaxxers!
Immoral, unethical.
don_dunstan
Join us Don...have the vaccine. You will eventually be forced to one way or another anyway.

You will come to love the vaccine.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I find it really weird that Victorian Chief Health Officer says that lock-downs definitely work - which is why you are into your sixth prolonged lock-down in Victoria with no end in sight for at least another fortnight. Because the first five worked so well - presumably. And now a curfew for Melbourne - something they didn't even do during WWII.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

I find it really weird that Victorian Chief Health Officer says that lock-downs definitely work - which is why you are into your sixth prolonged lock-down in Victoria with no end in sight for at least another fortnight. Because the first five worked so well - presumably.
don_dunstan

You have a knack for interpreting every success as a failure.

The last five lockdowns drove cases back to zero five times and you conclude that the lockdowns haven't worked? You are doing some mental gymnastics here. Sure maybe this 6th one wont work but the runs are on the board so far.

What they don't do is stop leaks from quarantine or cross border transmission.

Can we use lockdowns to beat COVID forever...no, but no one is saying that is what they are for.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

And now a curfew for Melbourne - something they didn't even do during WWII.
don_dunstan
Why was a curfew needed in WW2? To stop the spread of Japanese?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Excellent news too that Qantas will mandate vaccination for all staff.  I would've mandated it months ago tbh, and should also demand the same for all passengers.

Take that anti-vaxxers!
Immoral, unethical.
Join us Don...have the vaccine. You will eventually be forced to one way or another anyway.

You will come to love the vaccine.
Mr. Lane
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think I'll be proved right in the fullness of time; the best way would have been to let it rip as soon as the vaccines became available. The various governments can't ever let that happen though because that would be an admission that all the money was wasted, all those businesses destroyed, all the citizenry oppressed, deprived of their freedom of movement - for nothing.

And they can't admit they were wrong - that's why you people are all suffering in VIC and NSW at the moment. For no other reason than the various state governments can't admit that they got their management of the virus completely wrong.

Also coercing people to have the vaccine has failed all around the globe - they tried vaccine passports in Russia and it collapsed within weeks because vaccinated people refused to patronise businesses that required them - the vaccinated stood with the unvaccinated and refused to cooperate.

The people, collectively, are much stronger than these tyrants currently in power.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
And now a curfew for Melbourne - something they didn't even do during WWII.
Why was a curfew needed in WW2? To stop the spread of Japanese?
Mr. Lane
Blackouts. Driving a car at night without your headlights on is pretty much impossible isn't it.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I find it really weird that Victorian Chief Health Officer says that lock-downs definitely work - which is why you are into your sixth prolonged lock-down in Victoria with no end in sight for at least another fortnight. Because the first five worked so well - presumably.

You have a knack for interpreting every success as a failure.

The last five lockdowns drove cases back to zero five times and you conclude that the lockdowns haven't worked? You are doing some mental gymnastics here. Sure maybe this 6th one wont work but the runs are on the board so far.

What they don't do is stop leaks from quarantine or cross border transmission.

Can we use lockdowns to beat COVID forever...no, but no one is saying that is what they are for.
Mr. Lane
You're working on the thesis - the same as they are - that the only acceptable number of virus cases is zero. It simply isn't true. You're all living in abject fear of something that you shouldn't be afraid of.

We're going to have to learn to live with this thing one way or another. The sooner that we accept that reality like the USA and the UK the sooner we can all get back to normal. Everyone who is vulnerable has had ample opportunity to get the vaccine if they want that. It's high time to stop this lock-down rubbish and get back to normal.
  Brianr Deputy Commissioner

Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
Your risk of heart attack after having Pfizer increases quite a bit
don_dunstan
What a load of bollocks
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Your risk of heart attack after having Pfizer increases quite a bit
What a load of bollocks
Brianr
Like pretty much everything posted here by that poster...
  Carnot Minister for Railways

FACT - You have a MUCH higher probability of long-term heart complications from getting Covid as an unvaxxed person than from the Pfizer vaccine.

Maybe we could divide up buses, planes and trains with Vaccinated and Unvaccinated sections, just like the old Smoking and Non-Smoking sections....

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