The corona virus COVID-19

 
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

As the doses arrive in batches on a jet in Sydney, then distribution is direct from there as per the National Cabinents agreed distribution rate and assumed direct to the end user via other hubs. Its not rocket science.
RTT_Rules
There's more to it than that.

The repeated cases of the federal government rushing extra doses to wherever they feel it is politically necessary would suggest the feds divert a portion of each shipment to their stockpile.

But I guess that might not make the news in Dubai.

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  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Its up there with anally taking disinfectant.
RTT_Rules
Ooh err Missus, Saturday night party night! You been watching too many Love Honey ads on late night free to air telly methinks Laughing
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner


Umm, the intial phase of the roll out was via GP because it was aimed at those at high risk with significant underlying health issues, in limited supply and still had a few unknowns, ie AZ blood clots.

Once you get passed all that and have larger numbers of vaccine available and basically jabbing healthy people. You just need a esky, nurse, tent and bucket load of needles, bandaids and sharps bins. There was no way this was ever going to be done via GP's as its not done this way OS. ie 40 m injections in around 200 days at a rate of 200,000 jabs a day. Dr have better things to do. I would have thought this was all commonsense?

As the doses arrive in batches on a jet in Sydney, then distribution is direct from there as per the National Cabinents agreed distribution rate and assumed direct to the end user via other hubs. Its not rocket science.
RTT_Rules

That may be the revisionist view today. But back in the AstraZeneca strollout days, the plan was for GP clinics to do the bulk of the vaccine administration (mostly by nurses). What was happening overseas at that time was neither here nor there.

February 2021:
https://www.racgp.org.au/gp-news/media-releases/2021-media-releases/february-2021/racgp-welcomes-tga-approval-of-astrazeneca-vaccine
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
After getting off the Covid Express coach stopping all exposure sites to Southern Cross last night I was struck by the number of people out and about in the city

Compared to last year the difference is very noticeable

Walked down to 'er indoors' local Woolies in Norf Melbourne early afternoon to grab some beers. Cutting through a park near Arden St I saw probably 10 groups out enjoying the new picnic rules. Problem was not a single mask between the lot of them

Next I hit the shops and was astounded by the number of people with masks around chins or only over the mouth

And this on a day when Victoria recorded 500+ cases

People have clearly had enough of lockdowns and that is reflected in the compliance with the rules

Yep, you would barely know a lockdown was on now until after 9PM and even then there are a surprising number of cars on the road. It certainly isn't back to normal but it is no longer desolate like the post apocalyptic scenes last year.

I think there are two reasons:

  • There is no incentive to drive the case numbers down because end of lockdown isn't dependant on reaching zero cases.
  • Many more doubled vaxxed people now and they have an expectation they should be exempt from lockdowns.

I don't think the Government even cares about the lack of compliance now because they are hardly doing anything about it. They just need enough people to comply to keep the rate of infections low enough.

I expect compliance will be non existent by the time we reach the 80% target in November.
Mr. Lane
NSW at the moment is 51.9% 2nd dose, 81.9 first dose, IF, NSW can get to both 90% first and 2nd dose, cases will be circulating in very low numbers in NSW, which will be good for all concerned.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

Umm, the intial phase of the roll out was via GP because it was aimed at those at high risk with significant underlying health issues, in limited supply and still had a few unknowns, ie AZ blood clots.

Once you get passed all that and have larger numbers of vaccine available and basically jabbing healthy people. You just need a esky, nurse, tent and bucket load of needles, bandaids and sharps bins. There was no way this was ever going to be done via GP's as its not done this way OS. ie 40 m injections in around 200 days at a rate of 200,000 jabs a day. Dr have better things to do. I would have thought this was all commonsense?

As the doses arrive in batches on a jet in Sydney, then distribution is direct from there as per the National Cabinents agreed distribution rate and assumed direct to the end user via other hubs. Its not rocket science.
That may be the revisionist view today. But back in the AstraZeneca strollout days, the plan was for GP clinics to do the bulk of the vaccine administration (mostly by nurses). What was happening overseas at that time was neither here nor there.

February 2021:
https://www.racgp.org.au/gp-news/media-releases/2021-media-releases/february-2021/racgp-welcomes-tga-approval-of-astrazeneca-vaccine
kitchgp

Thats all good at jabbing maybe 50 - 100 k /day nationally, but the country is now jabbing nearly 300 k/day. Time to put the small toys away and get serious for the generally healthy part of the population.

Also its a Pandemic, the situation is highly dynamic and evoling and hence you need to keep up. That article you provided is from Feb and they were injecting the oldies and those with underlying conditions who probably should talk to GP first especially at a time when there was rising concerns about the safety of AZ and Pfizer was also not long approved globally for emergency use. Small remote and Rural communites, yes GP makes sense.

Your article also states that the process would change as the country changed phases.


“GPs across the country overwhelmingly want to vaccinate their patients. There was a huge response to the Department of Health’s expression of interest with over 5000 practices applying to be a vaccination clinic.

“Initially, not all practices will be able to be involved in the vaccination program, but eventually the expectation is that it will be rolled out more widely, and more practices will become involved as supply increases. For now while we are in Phase 1, it’s critical that we can vaccinate as many of the highly vulnerable people as efficiently as possible. The logistics of later phases will be addressed as the rollout progresses.



In both Australia and NZ "Jabber the Bus" or similar is also roaming the country side.


Overseas is here and there as most country's used the pop up tent approach. When I had my Sinopharm they were jabbing +50,000 a day in the one tent. Where my wife went to get her Pfizer replacements to Sinopharm it was 10,000's a day operation. Mine was at work so two nurses jabbing 20 perople an hour after a basic health check.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
NSW at the moment is 51.9% 2nd dose, 81.9 first dose, IF, NSW can get to both 90% first and 2nd dose, cases will be circulating in very low numbers in NSW, which will be good for all concerned.
lsrailfan
UAE is now at 81 and 91% respectively with a rapid conversion from Sinopharm to Pfizer and regardless of which jab you had before everyone is to get a mostly pfizer booster by late Sept, rising by 1% per day and new cases are plumenting quickly. Down to around 500 with maybe 1 or 2 deaths per day. Deaths are however a lagging indicator and people may have been in hospital for some weeks or months.  

BAck to NSW you can already see a big difference between the death rates from this outbreak compared to the big outbreak in Vic last year. The vaccine must be having an impact.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner


Thats all good at jabbing maybe 50 - 100 k /day nationally, but the country is now jabbing nearly 300 k/day. Time to put the small toys away and get serious for the generally healthy part of the population.

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RTT_Rules

As ludicrous as it may seem to you now, GP clinics were the plan back in the strollout days (note the goal of October completion). All your emphases are about more clinics coming on line and shouldering the load. “It’s not a race.”
  Upven Train Controller

GP clinics remain the backbone in my area of suburban Melbourne. Haven't seen or heard of any state run facilities, they seem to be concentrated in the CBD and West/North.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

Thats all good at jabbing maybe 50 - 100 k /day nationally, but the country is now jabbing nearly 300 k/day. Time to put the small toys away and get serious for the generally healthy part of the population.

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As ludicrous as it may seem to you now, GP clinics were the plan back in the strollout days (note the goal of October completion). All your emphases are about more clinics coming on line and shouldering the load. “It’s not a race.”
kitchgp
I'm not sure why you are so hung up on this, does it really matter who does the jab and surely the Phases progressed vaccination centres, jab buses etc were always going to open up as a means to accelerate roll out as vaccines became available.

However I can assure you globably much of CV-19 "plans" in Feb 2021 were defunct with in months or even weeks, many times over and Globally making an apointment with your local GP wasn't the main method used. USA, UK, EU etc, it was mass vaccination centres, USA had drive through.

Reading through the NSW health website, I've found references to "Vaccination Clinics"
Published 19 February 2021. Process:
The COVID-19 vaccines are available through NSW Health clinics, participating general practices or pharmacies, with fully informed consent.

Many of my friends in Qld have taken photos outside a vaccination centre.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
As the doses arrive in batches on a jet in Sydney, then distribution is direct from there as per the National Cabinents agreed distribution rate and assumed direct to the end user via other hubs. Its not rocket science.
There's more to it than that.

The repeated cases of the federal government rushing extra doses to wherever they feel it is politically necessary would suggest the feds divert a portion of each shipment to their stockpile.

But I guess that might not make the news in Dubai.
justapassenger
Yeah so, why are you surprised?

The vaccines are distrubuted proportionally or as agreed to hot spots. And if West Aust has no outbreaks, then why would you jab people there when you have people in lockdown in Mel and Sydney?  I think a few weeks back Aaron pointed out quite well a typical response strategy.

You are right, conspriacy theories don't make it into the UAE news. Very Happy
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
GP clinics remain the backbone in my area of suburban Melbourne. Haven't seen or heard of any state run facilities, they seem to be concentrated in the CBD and West/North.
Upven
Lost the post, but in short

Vic has only 5 or 6 so called Vaccination clinics

Qld has dozens

Tas has at least a dozen using hospitals to town halls.

and WA has numerous different types of vac locations that vary from GP to clinics
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Err, not quite in regards to Victoria

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/vaccination-centres


Scroll down to the map, then a bit further, and start counting
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
Err, not quite in regards to Victoria

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/vaccination-centres


Scroll down to the map, then a bit further, and start counting
wobert
Plus GP clinics (just Melbourne)
https://www.hotdoc.com.au/search?filters=covid_vaccine-available&in=melbourne-VIC-3000&purpose=covid-vaccine

Really, if you cant find a State or GP near yourself, then pull head out of the sand.

EDIT for aarons benefit. There are hundreds more available sites than the "5 or 6" that @RTT  ignorantly disparaged.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
justarider, don’t be coming here with your alternate facts.

See wobert, I am a nice person, saved you from needing to make a post.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
justarider, don’t be coming here with your alternate facts.

See wobert, I am a nice person, saved you from needing to make a post.
Aaron
WOT ?
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
justarider, don’t be coming here with your alternate facts.

See wobert, I am a nice person, saved you from needing to make a post.
Aaron
I'll have to ponder that.

Yeah finished
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
justarider, I am in total agreement, it was a joke.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
justarider, I am in total agreement, it was a joke.
Aaron
I got it, I think
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Err, not quite in regards to Victoria

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/vaccination-centres


Scroll down to the map, then a bit further, and start counting
wobert
This is what I used

My bad I only saw the "walk-in options" which is listed seperately at the top, not all centres which is further down and the map doesn't open on my work laptop.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Err, not quite in regards to Victoria

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/vaccination-centres


Scroll down to the map, then a bit further, and start counting
Plus GP clinics (just Melbourne)
https://www.hotdoc.com.au/search?filters=covid_vaccine-available&in=melbourne-VIC-3000&purpose=covid-vaccine

Really, if you cant find a State or GP near yourself, then pull head out of the sand.

EDIT for aarons benefit. There are hundreds more available sites than the "5 or 6" that @RTT  ignorantly disparaged.
justarider
Wasn't igorant, other already stated how many and checking the website thats what I saw because the walk in sites are listed seperately at the top. When quickly flicking through the other states just had the details for each site in the main list.

Anyway, there is lots more, good to see.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Rough day for the resistant anti-vaxxers in Vic. Can't say I'm surprised.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Many of them are not anti-vax or anti-lockdown.  There is a core of mainly young males who go armed and are looking for a fight with police.
Then there are the sheep who are brainless enough to follow them.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Rough day for the resistant anti-vaxxers in Vic. Can't say I'm surprised.
Carnot
I know a few people who are steadfastly refusing to be vaxxed and they are starting to see what their near future is going to be like - stuck at home in the main while the rest of us start to be allowed out and about

Dark days indeed for some people. I'm not passing judgement on them but mental health of some of these people will become a big factor I think.

On another note we got caught up in the road blocks around North Melbourne yesterday while trying to deliver a package to a customer in Richmond. I don't support the protesters at all but seeing police road blocks on every street into town was pretty confronting

We encountered one in Arden St and traffic was backing up across the intersection so we did a rightly in Curzon St where there was another one ahead. Left into Queensberry where we were stopped and checked before being allowed to move on. Driving up Queensberry I looked left from the passenger seat up each street we crossed through Carlton and every one had red and blue flashing lights

A quick right - left into Victoria St headed for 3121 and as we drove down the hill there was traffic as far as the eye could see in the opposite direction heading towards town as the road was blocked and all traffic was being funnelled into one lane with a booze / drug bus on hand and every motorist being questioned about their movements

it was a surreal and very sobering experience, something that I never thought I would see in Australia
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Surely someone is taking the mickey, it can't be true

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-19/australian-government-warned-of-potential-covid-drug-shortage/100467106



And a few rumours floating around that Octobers Pfizer supply could be interrupted
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner


I'm not sure why you are so hung up on this, does it really matter who does the jab and surely the Phases progressed vaccination centres, jab buses etc were always going to open up as a means to accelerate roll out as vaccines became available.

However I can assure you globably much of CV-19 "plans" in Feb 2021 were defunct with in months or even weeks, many times over and Globally making an apointment with your local GP wasn't the main method used. USA, UK, EU etc, it was mass vaccination centres, USA had drive through.

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RTT_Rules

It is merely to correct your misunderstandings of how the Australian system works, eg doctors administering vaccines. The original posting was about the incompetence of the Morrison government, with its plan for GP clinics to administer most of the vaccinations as an example. It was the state premiers that expanded the role of vaccination hubs to the point that the hubs now do about 45% of the vaccinations. The premiers (on both sides) have largely been dragging Morrison along. Anyway, as it stands at the moment, if it hadn’t been for the ramping up of the vaccination hubs by the states, 70% and 80% full vaccination rates would be even further in the distance.

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