Velocities to Warrnambool

 
  Dissonance Station Master

Premier’s Office have issued a Press Release confirming VLocity trainsets for Warrnambool
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/vlocity-trains-step-closer-warrnambool

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  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

I told you so.  Now will all the posters who condemned me for saying Warrnambool  will get V/Locities believe me.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
A press release from the Premiers office eh?

Not quite the same as a promise given at a press conference.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
And to think this line was nearly torn up under the Kennett Era.
  PE2010 Station Master

Location: Newcastle
Do we know whether there will be any speed upgrades ?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Do we know whether there will be any speed upgrades ?
PE2010

Notwithstanding any remaining line of sight speed restrictions and other speed restrictions for the remaining unprotected level crossings...if any, then the remainder of the track speed would IMO be raised to 130Km/h.

Mike.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
A press release from the Premiers office eh?

Not quite the same as a promise given at a press conference.
Donald

This reads of sour grapes. Confused

Do you require a bells and whistles media conference for the announcement, because you are still of a belief that the Andrews government in true Trumpian form lies about everything.

Mike.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
A press release from the Premiers office eh?

Not quite the same as a promise given at a press conference.

This reads of sour grapes. Confused

Do you require a bells and whistles media conference for the announcement, because you are still of a belief that the Andrews government in true Trumpian form lies about everything.

Mike.
The Vinelander
For those that missed actually reading the press release.

It was actually an announcement by the Actg Prime Minister, Barnaby Joyce.
A joint release, this copy coming out of the Vic Pemier's office.

Fair enough. One of the projects where the feds tipped in a lot of cash.

cheers
John
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

RPV  Victoria rehards Class 2M track allowing 130 kmh for V/locities to be 47kg/94lb rail on all concrete sleepers with all lx boom barrier protected.  on completion of the stage 2 works whilst all the lx will be done, half the sleepers will still be wood limiting as Class 2 track allowing probably 155 kmh for V/locity, then as we move to 3 in 4 sleepers concrete over the next 5 years with the next tie cycle then hopefully it will be deemed Class-2M allowing 130 kmh for V/locities.

Epsom - Goornong is currently getting the full concrete sleeper treatment allowing Class - 2M and 130 kmh operation, and Goornaong - Echuca is said to be getting more concrete sleepers allowing initially 100kmh .  Bendigo Epsom stays at 80 km/h.
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

RPV  Victoria rehards Class 2M track allowing 130 kmh for V/locities to be 47kg/94lb rail on all concrete sleepers with all lx boom barrier protected.  on completion of the stage 2 works whilst all the lx will be done, half the sleepers will still be wood limiting as Class 2 track allowing probably 155 kmh for V/locity, then as we move to 3 in 4 sleepers concrete over the next 5 years with the next tie cycle then hopefully it will be deemed Class-2M allowing 130 kmh for V/locities.

Epsom - Goornong is currently getting the full concrete sleeper treatment allowing Class - 2M and 130 kmh operation, and Goornaong - Echuca is said to be getting more concrete sleepers allowing initially 100kmh .  Bendigo Epsom stays at 80 km/h.
kuldalai
Bendigo Epsom stays at 80 km/h. --- That needs to go to at least 115 kph! NOW!
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Now.  

SG the line to connect to the ARTC at North Geelong, get some more SG VLos and add it to the Albury/Seymour/Shepparton fleet, and there is one more line converted, with freight benefits to boot.

Laughing


(and before you jump down my throat, this is purely to agitate DD707).
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Bendigo Epsom stays at 80 km/h. --- That needs to go to at least 115 kph! NOW!
Duncs

To shave two or three minutes off the timetable? Really?
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

Bendigo Epsom stays at 80 km/h. --- That needs to go to at least 115 kph! NOW!

To shave two or three minutes off the timetable? Really?
duttonbay
OK I see what you mean as Bendigo and Epson are closer together than I realized. So probably 100 kph would suffice here.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Bendigo Epsom stays at 80 km/h. --- That needs to go to at least 115 kph! NOW!

To shave two or three minutes off the timetable? Really?
OK I see what you mean as Bendigo and Epson are closer together than I realized. So probably 100 kph would suffice here.
Duncs
You could make it 100 BUt the closely spaced stations out to Epsom the trains dont get much over 80 kmh anyway.
  8502 Chief Train Controller

Will the Warrnambool trains be the longer distance type?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
And to think this line was nearly torn up under the Kennett Era.
bevans
Really, were they seriously discussing closing the whole line? You're not getting it confused with the Lonie Report under Thompson are you.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

It might have already closed if without West Coast Railway's investment.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
And to think this line was nearly torn up under the Kennett Era.
Really, were they seriously discussing closing the whole line? You're not getting it confused with the Lonie Report under Thompson are you.
don_dunstan

Hi Don, this is correct.  Kennett stated it was his view it should be closed and the track was jointed track not continuous rail.  The community was very very unhappy and the ultimate outcome was the creation of WCR who improved the service brilliantly even adding a dinning car on the Friday service which was very very popular.
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

It might have already closed if without West Coast Railway's investment.
route14
Kennent was never going to close that line as it was also a freight line. It still is. So we can put that idea to rest. There was a rationalization of services, by cancelling those such as Mildura, Ararat and Bairnsdale, but that was all.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

All long distance pax services were initially going to be jeffed.  Then it wan agreed two Inter City routes would be run by private operators, and 3 would be run by VLP. The end result was Warrnambool (WCR),  Dimboola cut back to Ararat for 12 months then, scrubbed beyond Ballarat. Mildura - deceased,  Swan Hill  (VLP),  Cobram (Hoys - Wangaratta), Albury, VLP,  Bairnsadle - deceased,  Leongatha - deceased.Stony Point (VLP).
  simstrain Chief Commissioner


This reads of sour grapes. Confused

Do you require a bells and whistles media conference for the announcement, because you are still of a belief that the Andrews government in true Trumpian form lies about everything.

Mike.
The Vinelander

I think you really need to stop listening to some news. Trump may be polarising but most of the lying has been coming from the Democrats and the supposed free press who have been covering up for Comrade Joe and his son.
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
It might have already closed if without West Coast Railway's investment.
Kennent was never going to close that line as it was also a freight line. It still is. So we can put that idea to rest. There was a rationalization of services, by cancelling those such as Mildura, Ararat and Bairnsdale, but that was all.
Duncs
If the West Coast proposal had not of happened, passenger services to Warrnambool were finished, leaving only a fairly lightly used freight business beyond the Waurn Ponds cement works. The whole line could have been closed just like Bairnsdale - the passenger service there ended in 1993 and the weekly goods lasted just over 12 months till it was axed. The only reason that line was initially reopened was because Freight Victoria started the log business at its own expense.
  Lachlan's Train Channel Junior Train Controller

Location: probably taking a photo of 7901V
I'll speculate that if the Warrnambool service WAS cut, it would've been one of the services revived in 2004
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
If the West Coast proposal had not of happened, passenger services to Warrnambool were finished, leaving only a fairly lightly used freight business beyond the Waurn Ponds cement works. The whole line could have been closed just like Bairnsdale - the passenger service there ended in 1993 and the weekly goods lasted just over 12 months till it was axed. The only reason that line was initially reopened was because Freight Victoria started the log business at its own expense.
gippslander
The Sale Bairnsdale line closed as a result of the troublesome Avon River Bridge, the Warrnambool line didn't have any problem bridges and freight loading back In the 90's was pretty healthy (with a lot of briquette loading going to the many dairy factories In the SW region)
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Alan Brown called for expression of interest to run all Inter City corridors.  Two were received WCR for Warrnmabool and Hoys for Cobram.
After further pressure the Government then agreed to operate three other corridors by VLP corridors which ended up being Swan Hill, Albury and Stony Point.

If no private Operators had put their hand up then the three lines the Government would have probably retained would have been the three with the highest patronage beyond the Inter urban area being in order  Albury, Warrnambool and  Bairnsdale.

The bridge at Stratford had nothing to do with it and N class with N/Z cars were allowed right up till 2020.  Yes freight was an issue at that time.

the Government was pxxxxd off by a Group who hi-jacked a pax train and kept it captive at Bairnsdale in an effort to make sure Bairnsdale retained their train. The protest had the oppositte effect and after some weeks the train was released, and the Government then made sure that Bus rhymed with Bairnsdale.

Initially Minister Brown would not meet any delegations from the longer distance lines who were all up in arms about getting their trains "jeffed".  Eventually Kennett let one delegation from each line come down to Melbourne to meet with the Minister.

Meetings were arranged for 1030 just after all the Up am long distance services had reached Spencer Steet (in those days the station had a name that told you where the station was !!!).  Up came all the delegations all with the same line we all deserve our trains, our town will die without the train.  The Minister listened quietly to each group, then asked how they had got to Melbourne that morning  ???  Bit embarassing really only three delegations were smart enough to come up by train including a well organized delegation from Warrnambool.

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