Massive Volcano and Tsunami in Tonga

 
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
I read there were tsunami warnings for Australia did we see any activity on our shores ?

The news forage for the islands looked very bleak with water rushing into the island. Australia and New Zealand should do all that is possible to assist this nation.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Confirmed the cable into Tonga is broken 34 kms off shore.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: In exile
Confirmed the cable into Tonga is broken 34 kms off shore.
bevans
Are you swimming over to fix it?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Confirmed the cable into Tonga is broken 34 kms off shore.
Are you swimming over to fix it?
Graham4405

LOL.  I think the boat our of Port Moresby could do that 4000kms away.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Confirmed the cable into Tonga is broken 34 kms off shore.
bevans
It’s very clever and interesting how they know that. I hope they get pictures of that break, it would look pretty epic.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
34kms off shore.  How exactly would it have broken?  Pulled from one end by the tsunami, local earthquake, or did it run close to the blast site and have some sort of impact from the explosion?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
34kms off shore.  How exactly would it have broken?  Pulled from one end by the tsunami, local earthquake, or did it run close to the blast site and have some sort of impact from the explosion?
james.au

It does seem now there are two breaks in the cable wither found via OTDR or power loss.

How it was broken I understand the break (initial find) is quite close to the location of the volcano.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
More detail Volcanic Eruption Takes Out Both Tonga Cables - SubTel Forum
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Did the Digicel sale to Telstra go through?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Did the Digicel sale to Telstra go through?
kitchgp

Yes

An update from Southern Cross

TCL and SubCom are working hard to establish the international connection with Tonga following the unprecedented volcanic eruption. The CS Reliance has been activated to assess and repair. International cable communications will be down until the cable is repaired.

Our thoughts are with the people of Tonga and their families, and we will continue to try and provide links to updates as we become aware of them.
  8502 Assistant Commissioner

This from NASA

https://t.co/1qBhuelg3J GeoColor Imagery provided by NOAA/NESDIS/STAR https://t.co/yRkR0bfg9U" / Twitter
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Article from the guardian.  About half way down is a map of the submarine cables in the area.  I had no idea there were so many.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/18/tonga-volcanic-eruption-tsunami-unprecedented-disaster
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Good link.  Also see

  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
@bevans you have me now reading about subsea cables across the ocean since the Tonga issue and your announcement. I had no idea the systems that circled the globe and this which carry all of the internet and phone calls. It is amazing to see.

It is being reported the cable at Tonga could take weeks to fix.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power, now under tow to Fiji after being sent to Tonga as part of the aid package.

From basically now they have no cold stored food available from the refrigerators, from Wednesday they’ll have no frozen food and with 700 people aboard they currently have 1200 ration packs, no fresh running water, and all people not required inside the ship are being held topside because there is no aircon.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power, now under tow to Fiji after being sent to Tonga as part of the aid package.

From basically now they have no cold stored food available from the refrigerators, from Wednesday they’ll have no frozen food and with 700 people aboard they currently have 1200 ration packs, no fresh running water, and all people not required inside the ship are being held topside because there is no aircon.
Aaron
What, an Australian warship has failed and cant do its job?  Going to be big news on this if true...

EDIT: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/power-outage-hits-australian-navy-vessel-delivering-critical-aid-to-tonga/ee09e1bf-b344-4a06-8a9c-0be482d5965c
  9034 Chief Train Controller

So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power, now under tow to Fiji after being sent to Tonga as part of the aid package.

From basically now they have no cold stored food available from the refrigerators, from Wednesday they’ll have no frozen food and with 700 people aboard they currently have 1200 ration packs, no fresh running water, and all people not required inside the ship are being held topside because there is no aircon.
Aaron

Not what the RAN is saying

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FRoyalAustralianNavy%2Fposts%2F313826997451282&show_text=true&width=500

#HMASAdelaide recently experienced a power outage while anchored near #Tonga. Essential power supplies were quickly restored. The situation is being closely monitored and the safety of the ship and the embarked forces remains our highest priority.
Read more ????: https://bit.ly/ADE-Statement #AusNavy #YourADF
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power, now under tow to Fiji after being sent to Tonga as part of the aid package.

From basically now they have no cold stored food available from the refrigerators, from Wednesday they’ll have no frozen food and with 700 people aboard they currently have 1200 ration packs, no fresh running water, and all people not required inside the ship are being held topside because there is no aircon.

Not what the RAN is saying

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FRoyalAustralianNavy%2Fposts%2F313826997451282&show_text=true&width=500

#HMASAdelaide recently experienced a power outage while anchored near #Tonga. Essential power supplies were quickly restored. The situation is being closely monitored and the safety of the ship and the embarked forces remains our highest priority.
Read more ????: https://bit.ly/ADE-Statement #AusNavy #YourADF
9034
So it’s a matter of who to believe. Those with boots on deck or the offical sanitised version. Going with boots.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power . . .
"Aaron"
Just as an aside, a thousand thanks for referring to "HMAS Adelaide". So many refer to "the HMAS Adelaide" - which drives me nuts.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power . . .
Just as an aside, a thousand thanks for referring to "HMAS Adelaide". So many refer to "the HMAS Adelaide" - which drives me nuts.
Valvegear
There are those that know and those that don't know who, it seems, are largely in the media, TV documentaries and our education system. It's just plain ignorance.

Speaking of ships, just look at the appalling situation where we attempt to help the victims of the recent Pacific volcano (hooray) so we send one of the chronically unreliable lemons of the RNSWN. It arrives, infested with Covid, then blows a fuse and is totally disabled. Perhaps the locals can rescue it with a couple of war canoes.

Australia is going down the gurgler in so many many ways.
  apw5910 Chief Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power . . .
Just as an aside, a thousand thanks for referring to "HMAS Adelaide". So many refer to "the HMAS Adelaide" - which drives me nuts.
Valvegear
The thirty-eight-oh-one...

Suppose it's better than loco three-eight-oh-one.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
So from a person I know aboard HMAS Adelaide, which is foundering with no power . . .
Just as an aside, a thousand thanks for referring to "HMAS Adelaide". So many refer to "the HMAS Adelaide" - which drives me nuts.
The thirty-eight-oh-one...

Suppose it's better than loco three-eight-oh-one.
apw5910
Oh no!
Same thing applies with train numbers as with ships and locomotives.
Train 1259 not the 1259.
  Sonofagunzel Minister for Railways

Reminds me of Clive Robertson presenting the late night TV news in the 80s with his special brand of cynicism and wit - so perfect for that time of the evening.

Whenever he referred to the SMH, he referred to it as "The The Sydney Morning Herald".
  M636C Minister for Railways

The ABC reported yesterday...

An email sent by HMAS Adelaide's commander states: "Marine Technical Department have worked throughout the past few days to restore power and get us operational again."
In the message, obtained by the ABC, Captain Stuart Watters says: "We are still experiencing issues with external communications and wanted to let you know that everyone onboard is safe.

Without questioning the official statement about power being restored quickly, i note the words "MTs worked throughout the past few days...."  Also, the CO is sending status reports by e-mail which suggests that the normal secure channels might not be available.

As I understand it, HMAS Adelaide has electric propulsion, and all propulsion engines can normally be used to provide on board electric ("ship service") power.....

I share Senator Patrick's concerns.

Peter
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Electric powered by gas turbine and two diesels I believe.

Were HMASs Adelaide and Canberra built as warships with inherent, and expensive, multiple redundancies or are they grey painted odd ball specialised merchant ships where everything runs through one main switchboard?

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