$500,000 Victorian government funding to plan, design Kerang-Koondrook Rail Trail

 
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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The government in Victoria can find much money for rail trails and removing track but not for track upgrades and the removal of speed restrictions and bottlenecks.

$500,000 Victorian government funding to plan, design Kerang-Koondrook Rail Trail

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
This is the first instalment of millions being spent for a few weekend cyclists.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The government in Victoria can find much money for rail trails and removing track but not for track upgrades and the removal of speed restrictions and bottlenecks.

$500,000 Victorian government funding to plan, design Kerang-Koondrook Rail Trail
freightgate
There are big economic returns (and many votes) In building and developing recreational trails (Government owned land of former railway track beds fit the bill perfectly)
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
The government in Victoria can find much money for rail trails and removing track but not for track upgrades and the removal of speed restrictions and bottlenecks.

$500,000 Victorian government funding to plan, design Kerang-Koondrook Rail Trail
freightgate
Got a spare several billion and a complete tear down and rebuild large parts of network in your pocket?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
This is the first instalment of millions being spent for a few weekend cyclists.
freightgate

Perfect for the many people who will make a V/Line train trip to Kerang with their bikes and ride out to Koondrook and I'll definitely be one of them.

Happy to spend my hard earned $$ in Kerang.

Mike.
  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

There are big economic returns (and many votes) In building and developing recreational trails (Government owned land of former railway track beds fit the bill perfectly)
Nightfire
$$$ ka ching!!! $$$$
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Kerang - Koondrook was about 22 km.
$500,000 over 22 km = ~$23,000/km or, at $200/hour, = 2,500 hours/71 weeks/17 months or 114 hours/km (3 weeks/km).
Surely the basic design details (formation/grades/curves etc) of the line from the 1880s - 1980s are, or should be, known.
What else is required?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Kerang - Koondrook was about 22 km.
$500,000 over 22 km = ~$23,000/km or, at $200/hour, = 2,500 hours/71 weeks/17 months or 114 hours/km (3 weeks/km).
Surely the basic design details (formation/grades/curves etc) of the line from the 1880s - 1980s are, or should be, known.
What else is required?
YM-Mundrabilla

Historic station signage, bench seats every couple of Km for the walkers, clearing of culverts and drains, removal of large trees that have taken over, hard gravel rolled out and pressed down, water and toilet faciilities. Road safety signage to advise cyclists and motorists of the existence of the other.

M.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Kerang - Koondrook was about 22 km.
$500,000 over 22 km = ~$23,000/km or, at $200/hour, = 2,500 hours/71 weeks/17 months or 114 hours/km (3 weeks/km).
Surely the basic design details (formation/grades/curves etc) of the line from the 1880s - 1980s are, or should be, known.
What else is required?

Historic station signage, bench seats every couple of Km for the walkers, clearing of culverts and drains, removal of large trees that have taken over, hard gravel rolled out and pressed down, water and toilet faciilities. Road safety signage to advise cyclists and motorists of the existence of the other.

M.
The Vinelander
'... The Victorian government has handed over $500,000 to start the planning and design work for a 22-kilometre cycling and walking trail between Kerang and Koondrook. ... '

Not to actually do anything.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Kerang - Koondrook was about 22 km.
$500,000 over 22 km = ~$23,000/km or, at $200/hour, = 2,500 hours/71 weeks/17 months or 114 hours/km (3 weeks/km).
Surely the basic design details (formation/grades/curves etc) of the line from the 1880s - 1980s are, or should be, known.
What else is required?

Historic station signage, bench seats every couple of Km for the walkers, clearing of culverts and drains, removal of large trees that have taken over, hard gravel rolled out and pressed down, water and toilet faciilities. Road safety signage to advise cyclists and motorists of the existence of the other.

M.
'... The Victorian government has handed over $500,000 to start the planning and design work for a 22-kilometre cycling and walking trail between Kerang and Koondrook. ... '

Not to actually do anything.
YM-Mundrabilla
Their consultant mates do alright out of these projects.
  damo64 Beginner

Kerang - Koondrook was about 22 km.
$500,000 over 22 km = ~$23,000/km or, at $200/hour, = 2,500 hours/71 weeks/17 months or 114 hours/km (3 weeks/km).
Surely the basic design details (formation/grades/curves etc) of the line from the 1880s - 1980s are, or should be, known.
What else is required?
YM-Mundrabilla
Bridge over Barr Creek. Bridge over Pyramid Creek. Bridge over Koondrook No.4 channel. Maybe a bridge over No. 5 channel on the Kerang side of Hinksons Siding. Inspection of remaining channel crossings. Re-instatement of the formation along Salters straight. How to deal with cattle crossings. That's a start.
Damian
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Kerang - Koondrook was about 22 km.
$500,000 over 22 km = ~$23,000/km or, at $200/hour, = 2,500 hours/71 weeks/17 months or 114 hours/km (3 weeks/km).
Surely the basic design details (formation/grades/curves etc) of the line from the 1880s - 1980s are, or should be, known.
What else is required?

Historic station signage, bench seats every couple of Km for the walkers, clearing of culverts and drains, removal of large trees that have taken over, hard gravel rolled out and pressed down, water and toilet faciilities. Road safety signage to advise cyclists and motorists of the existence of the other.

M.
'... The Victorian government has handed over $500,000 to start the planning and design work for a 22-kilometre cycling and walking trail between Kerang and Koondrook. ... '

Not to actually do anything.
YM-Mundrabilla
You think that's bad: The Warburton Rail Trail was a veritable smorgasbord of consultants' fees, reports, impact statements, more reports. As detailed by the Victorian Government themselves.

The icing on the cake was a gender impact assessment for the bike trail, presumably to see how the construction of a rail trail would disadvantage women because only men like using it (that's the theory anyway). Apparently in Dan Andrew's Victoria everything that is proposed or constructed with government money must have a gender impact assessment before it can proceed: Discussed further on Chris Kenny's Sky News last October.
  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

The government in Victoria can find much money for rail trails and removing track but not for track upgrades and the removal of speed restrictions and bottlenecks.

$500,000 Victorian government funding to plan, design Kerang-Koondrook Rail Trail
There are big economic returns (and many votes) In building and developing recreational trails (Government owned land of former railway track beds fit the bill perfectly)
Nightfire
I'll set up a refreshment stand at Teal Point; it's about halfway; should do real well, I will
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

You think that's bad: The Warburton Rail Trail was a veritable smorgasbord of consultants' fees, reports, impact statements, more reports. As detailed by the Victorian Government themselves.

The icing on the cake was a gender impact assessment for the bike trail, presumably to see how the construction of a rail trail would disadvantage women because only men like using it (that's the theory anyway). Apparently in Dan Andrew's Victoria everything that is proposed or constructed with government money must have a gender impact assessment before it can proceed ...........................................................
don_dunstan


Nothing to do with the Warburton Rail Trail. It's about mountain bike trails, hence the gender thing. The Lilydale - Warburton Rail Trail was built more than 20 years ago. (Prior to, the right-of-way came close to being sold off.)


"Yarra Ranges Council (the Proponent) is planning a mountain bike destination in Warburton, located around 70 kilometres east of Melbourne. The Warburton Mountain Bike Destination project (the Project) proposes more than 170 kilometres of trails across three main zones: Mount Donna Buang, Mount Little Joe and Mount Tugwell. The trails would connect with the popular Lilydale-Warburton Rail Trail and the O’Shannassy Aqueduct Trail."
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
You think that's bad: The Warburton Rail Trail was a veritable smorgasbord of consultants' fees, reports, impact statements, more reports. As detailed by the Victorian Government themselves.

The icing on the cake was a gender impact assessment for the bike trail, presumably to see how the construction of a rail trail would disadvantage women because only men like using it (that's the theory anyway). Apparently in Dan Andrew's Victoria everything that is proposed or constructed with government money must have a gender impact assessment before it can proceed ...........................................................


Nothing to do with the Warburton Rail Trail. It's about mountain bike trails, hence the gender thing. The Lilydale - Warburton Rail Trail was built more than 20 years ago. (Prior to, the right-of-way came close to being sold off.)


"Yarra Ranges Council (the Proponent) is planning a mountain bike destination in Warburton, located around 70 kilometres east of Melbourne. The Warburton Mountain Bike Destination project (the Project) proposes more than 170 kilometres of trails across three main zones: Mount Donna Buang, Mount Little Joe and Mount Tugwell. The trails would connect with the popular Lilydale-Warburton Rail Trail and the O’Shannassy Aqueduct Trail."
kitchgp
Okay, not from that part of the world so I was getting them mixed up.

Either way, how much would it cost to get a gender equity report on a mountain bike trail? That's directly adding to the cost of the project for the community.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
What actually does a Gender Equity Report in relation to a Rail Trail do or say?

Does it specify that only females may ride girls' bikes or specify the additional length of the crank axle on a girls' bike, perhaps?

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