Television

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Good old boomers. Refuse to pay, then complain when they get their money’s worth.
"justapassenger"
Quick to slag off and slow to read and think, as usual.
It should be obvious even to you that the subject has to be free to air television.  This discussion is covering a period of 50 years, and pay TV is a baby by comparison.

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  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Reading through this thread so far, it appears to be the vague recollections of a bunch of miserable old farts.
Which is completely different from the young who seem to have all the taste of a month-old rice pudding.
The irony being that the garbage TV programming which is the subject of complaint about is mostly being watched by middle and older age groups, with young adults largely turning away from TV.
Perhaps those who are in this group are those who are not used to having to pay for what can be loosely termed entertainment and possibly can't afford to pay for what would seem (at least at a casual glance) to be more of the same. Then again many older folk (and some of the younger ones) don't have the technological skills to utilise streaming services.
Good old boomers. Refuse to pay, then complain when they get their money’s worth.
justapassenger
There will be some who simply cannot afford to pay.
Granted that there are other platforms but just look at the high priced crap on Foxtel plus the ads.
Surely Australia is entitled to quality free to air TV rather than so much of the muck that is dished up these days.
  GoldenGirl Junior Train Controller

Reading through this thread so far, it appears to be the vague recollections of a bunch of miserable old farts.
Which is completely different from the young who seem to have all the taste of a month-old rice pudding.
Hmm, I am probably older than you, AND I worked in Broadcast Television for 50 years.
Can we therefore blame you for the continual decline in TV quality?
YM-Mundrabilla
No, you can blame that on my retirement from television, I would not have put up with it.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Reading through this thread so far, it appears to be the vague recollections of a bunch of miserable old farts.
Which is completely different from the young who seem to have all the taste of a month-old rice pudding.
Hmm, I am probably older than you, AND I worked in Broadcast Television for 50 years.
Can we therefore blame you for the continual decline in TV quality?
No, you can blame that on my retirement from television, I would not have put up with it.
GoldenGirl
Oh well said GG.
I say the same thing since my retirement from rail! Laughing
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: In exile
Reading through this thread so far, it appears to be the vague recollections of a bunch of miserable old farts.
Which is completely different from the young who seem to have all the taste of a month-old rice pudding.
Hmm, I am probably older than you, AND I worked in Broadcast Television for 50 years.
Can we therefore blame you for the continual decline in TV quality?
No, you can blame that on my retirement from television, I would not have put up with it.
Oh well said GG.
I say the same thing since my retirement from rail! Laughing
YM-Mundrabilla
Haha! None of my former employers, with the exception of the Council that I retired from in 2016, still exist as the entities that employed me. Guess they couldn't survive without me! Laughing
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Reading through this thread so far, it appears to be the vague recollections of a bunch of miserable old farts.
GoldenGirl

Yeah I'm a proud, card carrying miserable old fart.

What of it Question

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  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Reading through this thread so far, it appears to be the vague recollections of a bunch of miserable old farts.
Which is completely different from the young who seem to have all the taste of a month-old rice pudding.
The irony being that the garbage TV programming which is the subject of complaint about is mostly being watched by middle and older age groups, with young adults largely turning away from TV.
Perhaps those who are in this group are those who are not used to having to pay for what can be loosely termed entertainment and possibly can't afford to pay for what would seem (at least at a casual glance) to be more of the same. Then again many older folk (and some of the younger ones) don't have the technological skills to utilise streaming services.
Good old boomers. Refuse to pay, then complain when they get their money’s worth.
There will be some who simply cannot afford to pay.
Granted that there are other platforms but just look at the high priced crap on Foxtel plus the ads.
Surely Australia is entitled to quality free to air TV rather than so much of the muck that is dished up these days.
YM-Mundrabilla
And the boomers go on about the 'kids of today' and their 'entitlement'. Pretty sure TV free to air or otherwise, quality or otherwise, isn't something anyone is 'entitled' to. If you're of the age of CRTs, and VCRs you've had more than enough opportunity to make your own recordings of M*A*S*H, Days of Our Lives, A Country Practice, Welcome Back Kotter, Family Ties, Open All Hours, Laverne & Shirley, Dad's Army, Prisoner, Twin Peaks, Wheel of Fortune and Home and Away - keep watching those on repeat, I know I used to as a kid with my grandparents.

Nonetheless, if you're unhappy with the quality of product provided today, you always have the option of contacting your vendor and asking for a refund, I am sure your favourite station, (or even all of the stations if you contact them all) will cheerfully refund you all the receipted monies that you have paid to them.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Surely Australia is entitled to quality free to air TV rather than so much of the muck that is dished up these days.
"YM-Mundrabilla"
I don't believe that we are entitled. I would certainly like some better quality, but I can't see any way in which we can compel stations to show any particular programs. There must be sufficient people viewing what's on or the commercials would be forced to change, meantime the ABC is hamstrung for lack of cash and can't. I enjoy some programs which I regard as interesting, and otherwise  the TV either stays off or plays a DVD.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Surely Australia is entitled to quality free to air TV rather than so much of the muck that is dished up these days.
I don't believe that we are entitled. I would certainly like some better quality, but I can't see any way in which we can compel stations to show any particular programs. There must be sufficient people viewing what's on or the commercials would be forced to change, meantime the ABC is hamstrung for lack of cash and can't. I enjoy some programs which I regard as interesting, and otherwise  the TV either stays off or plays a DVD.
Valvegear
I wonder how much Auntie spent on Barons....... I have tried to watch it but it isn't easy going. And it seems that I'm not alone

"60 Minutes at least won its slot with 400,000 then 7News Spotlight  (321,000), FBI (225,000) but Barons bombed at 118,000"

The above from the tvtonight website, figures are for the Sunday just gone

(Barons currently screening on Sundays at 8.30pm-ish is a show about the rise of surf culture and apparel in Aus and is supposed to be (very) loosely based on Quicksilver and Billabong. It's really not very good and looks like it cost a bomb to make)
  Carnot Minister for Railways

There are Australian YouTube channels that have more viewership in their first day than what shows like Barons have on free-to-air.

And they're shot by a couple of amateurs with a consumer garde camera or two and edited on a $2000 PC.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Surely Australia is entitled to quality free to air TV rather than so much of the muck that is dished up these days.
I don't believe that we are entitled. I would certainly like some better quality, but I can't see any way in which we can compel stations to show any particular programs. There must be sufficient people viewing what's on or the commercials would be forced to change, meantime the ABC is hamstrung for lack of cash and can't. I enjoy some programs which I regard as interesting, and otherwise  the TV either stays off or plays a DVD.
Valvegear
I will continue to content myself with such highly offensive and political incorrect DVDs as:
  • Love thy Neighbour
  • It Ain't Half Hot Mum
  • Dad's Army
  • Open All Hours
  • No Job for a Lady
  • Yes Minister
  • Yes Prime Minister
  • et al
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

"60 Minutes at least won its slot with 400,000 then 7News Spotlight  (321,000), FBI (225,000) but Barons bombed at 118,000"
BrentonGolding
And over the course of the week since it was released, a couple of blokes working in a shed in Sydney have gotten just a few thousand less than those numbers 60 Minutes and 7News Spotlight combined for this effort...

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There must be sufficient people viewing what's on or the commercials would be forced to change …
Valvegear
They are changing.

They are responding to their nosediving market share by finding every way possible to spend less on new content, recycle more content (e.g. same stories repeated on the 4pm and 6pm news) and maximise the proportion of air time filled with paid programming or partially paid programming.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
"60 Minutes at least won its slot with 400,000 then 7News Spotlight  (321,000), FBI (225,000) but Barons bombed at 118,000"
And over the course of the week since it was released, a couple of blokes working in a shed in Sydney have gotten just a few thousand less than those numbers 60 Minutes and 7News Spotlight combined for this effort...

Modifying my BRAND NEW MK8 Golf R (in just 24 Hours)

There must be sufficient people viewing what's on or the commercials would be forced to change …
They are changing.

They are responding to their nosediving market share by finding every way possible to spend less on new content, recycle more content (e.g. same stories repeated on the 4pm and 6pm news) and maximise the proportion of air time filled with paid programming or partially paid programming.
justapassenger
You didn't link the vid properly.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PalSkMWXNDE

I contribute on occasion to a friend's YouTube channel, he has about 1/5 the subscribers of Mighty Car Mods, and he still pulls 100k views a week on new vids, more than 90% unique views. He shoots with a $400 (used) Canon camera and uses a five year old MacBook to upload.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Surely Australia is entitled to quality free to air TV rather than so much of the muck that is dished up these days.
I don't believe that we are entitled. I would certainly like some better quality, but I can't see any way in which we can compel stations to show any particular programs. There must be sufficient people viewing what's on or the commercials would be forced to change, meantime the ABC is hamstrung for lack of cash and can't. I enjoy some programs which I regard as interesting, and otherwise  the TV either stays off or plays a DVD.
I will continue to content myself with such highly offensive and political incorrect DVDs as:
  • Love thy Neighbour
  • It Ain't Half Hot Mum
  • Dad's Army
  • Open All Hours
  • No Job for a Lady
  • Yes Minister
  • Yes Prime Minister
  • et al
YM-Mundrabilla
The other advantages of ignoring broadcast TV.
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

"60 Minutes at least won its slot with 400,000 then 7News Spotlight  (321,000), FBI (225,000) but Barons bombed at 118,000"
And over the course of the week since it was released, a couple of blokes working in a shed in Sydney have gotten just a few thousand less than those numbers 60 Minutes and 7News Spotlight combined for this effort...

Modifying my BRAND NEW MK8 Golf R (in just 24 Hours)

There must be sufficient people viewing what's on or the commercials would be forced to change …
They are changing.

They are responding to their nosediving market share by finding every way possible to spend less on new content, recycle more content (e.g. same stories repeated on the 4pm and 6pm news) and maximise the proportion of air time filled with paid programming or partially paid programming.
justapassenger
I'm tipping they're starting to struggle to find advertisers. From the little I watch the ad breaks are more and more filled with self promotion for upcoming programs than anything else.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I'm tipping they're starting to struggle to find advertisers. From the little I watch the ad breaks are more and more filled with self promotion for upcoming programs than anything else.
Madjikthise
Last time I heard, internal advertising doesn’t count towards the 18 minutes advertising per hour.

More internal advertising = less need to produce actual content.

If it was 25 years ago there would be a need for this sort of behaviour to be regulated by ACMA, but TV has more competition so they can let the market sort it out.

It would be fitting if the last program shown on Linear TV in Australia could be arranged to be an air crash investigation program, because the demise of Linear TV sure looks a lot like Controlled Flight Into Terrain.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
The little TV I watch is free broadcast. It's a good excuse to sit on the lounge with my wife one or two nights a week.

The one program which I really miss is Test Pattern. None of the channels show any more repeats. It's so interesting to examine the different parts of it to see how well the signal has traveled from the transmitter.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
Tonight's episode of Railroad Australia on Ch 72, showed the building of Vlocity trains at Bombardier's works in Dandenong.
The breathless commentary told us that these were to cover "Victoria's massive railway network." I wonder what planet he's come from.
Valvegear
Overlooking the fake drama and the bull, I've found it a catalyst to talk with my wife about my time on the NSW railway, the things I did and the things I saw. Back then family stuff was overwhelming and work wasn't discussed. The SBS 'Central Station' series was good for this too.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Reading through this thread so far, it appears to be the vague recollections of a bunch of miserable old farts.
GoldenGirl
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  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
I'll add to the above that I've just started streaming on Tubi. It has a lot of very old TV shows like "The Dick Van Dyke Show", "The Carol Burnett Show", "Bonanza", lots of movies and is free (there are ads of course). Might suit some of the other old farts here! Wink
Graham4405
I assume Netflix is under Streaming, which is a simple to set up. If you can navigate RP's outdated platform, you can do Netflix. Then there is Youtube. Realistically these two + F2A, I have no need for anything else as life exists beyond the couch.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: In exile
I'll add to the above that I've just started streaming on Tubi. It has a lot of very old TV shows like "The Dick Van Dyke Show", "The Carol Burnett Show", "Bonanza", lots of movies and is free (there are ads of course). Might suit some of the other old farts here! Wink
I assume Netflix is under Streaming, which is a simple to set up. If you can navigate RP's outdated platform, you can do Netflix. Then there is Youtube. Realistically these two + F2A, I have no need for anything else as life exists beyond the couch.
RTT_Rules
Netflix is a paid service. As a pensioner I'm careful about where I spend my money. Youtube without a paid subscription is usable, but painful. I might consider Amazon Prime one day as it gets you free delivery on purchases from  Amazon. But realistically, as you say, there is life beyond the couch, I manage on free stuff.

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