Russia vs. Ukraine - Potential War?

 
Topic moved from The Lounge by dthead on 17 Feb 2022 16:36
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Search terms to put into the interwebs: Pandora Papers Zelenesky.

The man is a crook and his stashing of secret money off-shore goes back more than a decade, well before he became President. If you want to continue to defend him as somehow more worthy than his adversaries then by all means do that. But he's not - he's a kleptocrat the same as Putin.
Umm HELLO OUT THERE, EARTH to Don prior to 2019 he was an actor!!! What the hell is wrong with banking his money off-shore, especailly since Ukraine and its currency is a very small economy. Its not like Australian Billionaires don't store there money off shore.

Putin has been a career public servant and hence his billions are clearly the result of corruption and ripping off the Russian people.
Why can't he be corrupt if was an actor? Why does an actor need off-shore accounts? You realise that you're actually acknowledging that Zelenesky is exactly the same kinda crook as Putin.

Yet another own goal from you, RTT_Rules.
don_dunstan
There is nothing wrong/odd/corrupt about having off-shore accounts. I have an off-shore account (actually, two, in two countries), my wife has several, my father in law has an account in Australia, and he's off-shore! We did/do travel A LOT - trust me it simplifies travel A LOT if you have 'local' accounts.

For what it's worth, Zelenskyy was/is an actor, but this is most likely not due to that, off-shore accounts are not about the 'job' it's what the account is for. Zelenskyy is/was also a part owner of media production company, many people in the 'industry' are, Rob Sitch, Jane Kennedy, Mick Molloy, Tony Martin, George Lucas, Adam Sandler and a great many others 'own' their own media or production companies, you're suggesting they're all some how corrupt? No, foreign accounts just simply business.

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  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Just finished up a video chat with the uncle in an unnamed Polish airforce base, during the conversation whilst he was outside, someone walked past out of camera and said 'na dobranich [uncle's rank]', that was informative! - I had seen something like this reported before, but now I realise it's probably true.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Okay. If we get to 18% inflation, and grannies cannot afford all of their groceries do we gaol them for life? Or, let the currently convicted (and future) murderers and sex offenders out? What does Don's Big Book of Criminal Conduct tell us what we should do? All crooks are equal according to you, you keep telling us 'one crook is not any better than another crook' ipso facto 'one crook is not any worse than another crook'. So what's in going to be? Long sentences for elderly thieves? Or do I start the paperwork so that Bunting, Wagner and Vlassakis can be moved into the house next door to yours for assimilation? Recall, what they did to people they thought were paedophiles, purely because they thought they were gay - what are they going to make of you choosing a Mr Dunstan avatar? It doesn't have to be true, they picked their victims by assumption. - So, we're gaoling grannies then huh? Nice!
Aaron
You have the weirdest internal dialogues... I guess you're never lonely when you have several voices in your head all competing for your attention - right, Aaron?

What you're trying to argue here is that I think thieving leaders like Zelenesky are no better than Putin therefore I must think that a shop-lifting granny should be sent up the river and treated the same as serial killers.

Brilliant deductive analysis right there, mate. No wonder you're our very own MENSA-certified intellectual superior.

Show us your click bait - oops! You already did.

Didn't ZeroHedge tell you Zelenskyy fled Ukraine? Have we not been over this before? ZeroHedge is a Russian propaganda mouth piece? Do you really want me to call you a Putin Supporter again? You basically out yourself as one at every opportunity.

I love the irony of you thinking Zelenskyy et al in the Ukrainian leadership are 'Nazis' and then you go and not only read, but cite a far right online 'news' source.

MENSA would never smeg have you, not even on your brightest of days sunshine, they would however likely identify your mental illness through testing, and probably help fund your treatment.
Aaron
Again with the appeal to your intellectual superiority. See, the more that you do that the more insecure I actually know you are - which is why you joined MENSA to begin with - right? As I said earlier, I really wouldn't want to be in a fruit loop organisation whose sole purpose is to deride others outside it as dumb - but I can see that it would have suited you to a tee.

And it was actually Chinese state media that suggested Zelenesky was broadcasting from outside Ukraine (they said Poland), not ZeroHedge - he may have been in Poland at that time, who knows.

And the fact that Azov are proto-Nazi is well documented by lots of different media sources, buddy - you know that as well as I do.

No! You can't have it - you've lost enough brain cells already.
Aaron
Again with the references to people outside your little fiefdom being dumb. Insecure much?
There is nothing wrong/odd/corrupt about having off-shore accounts...
Aaron
I don't care how many off-shore accounts you or your family have, Aaron. I get it - you're a well-travelled international man of mystery who probably gets secret missions sent straight to his shoe phone....

You've made it pretty clear that you believe Zelenesky to be pure and virtuous and not on the take at all. I think there's plenty of evidence that he's actually a kleptocratic crook like almost every single ex-Soviet republic leader.

Which scenario do you think is more likely?
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Don's lost it! Jealousy is driving him mad! Call in Nurse Ratched!
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Don's lost it! Jealousy is driving him mad! Call in Nurse Ratched!
billybaxter

He really has dug such a deep hole for himself and completely lost the plot, that there is no turning back.

Zelenskyy may have his faults, but in the broader scheme of things it has nothing on the butchering that Putin has carried out in the Ukraine, Chehcny, Syria etc.

The fact that he keeps raising Zelensky's faults as some kind of legitimacy for Putin's actions..... mention it once, OK; mention it more than a dozen times, then it just becomes propaganda.

Some of the most shameful behaviour I've ever seen on RP.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Don's lost it! Jealousy is driving him mad! Call in Nurse Ratched!

He really has dug such a deep hole for himself and completely lost the plot, that there is no turning back.

Zelenskyy may have his faults, but in the broader scheme of things it has nothing on the butchering that Putin has carried out in the Ukraine, Chehcny, Syria etc.

The fact that he keeps raising Zelensky's faults as some kind of legitimacy for Putin's actions..... mention it once, OK; mention it more than a dozen times, then it just becomes propaganda.

Some of the most shameful behaviour I've ever seen on RP.
bingley hall
I would have thought that you with your wisdom of middle age and your socialist leanings would understand better than anyone what's going on here, but apparently you're just as ignorant as the rest of them.

We're being slowly indoctrinated into entering yet another unwinnable, stupid war. All the media coverage has been about grooming us into accepting that Zelenesky and Ukraine are completely innocent and in need of our protection - hell, we've already been giving them arms, money, military intelligence. The United States is considering giving them long range tactical weapons and 'military advisors' - sounds awfully familiar doesn't it?

Wake up and smell the coffee, this war has nothing whatsoever to do with us and we need to stay right out of it.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Don's lost it! Jealousy is driving him mad! Call in Nurse Ratched!

He really has dug such a deep hole for himself and completely lost the plot, that there is no turning back.

Zelenskyy may have his faults, but in the broader scheme of things it has nothing on the butchering that Putin has carried out in the Ukraine, Chehcny, Syria etc.

The fact that he keeps raising Zelensky's faults as some kind of legitimacy for Putin's actions..... mention it once, OK; mention it more than a dozen times, then it just becomes propaganda.

Some of the most shameful behaviour I've ever seen on RP.
I would have thought that you with your wisdom of middle age and your socialist leanings would understand better than anyone what's going on here, but apparently you're just as ignorant as the rest of them.

We're being slowly indoctrinated into entering yet another unwinnable, stupid war. All the media coverage has been about grooming us into accepting that Zelenesky and Ukraine are completely innocent and in need of our protection - hell, we've already been giving them arms, money, military intelligence. The United States is considering giving them long range tactical weapons and 'military advisors' - sounds awfully familiar doesn't it?

Wake up and smell the coffee, this war has nothing whatsoever to do with us and we need to stay right out of it.
don_dunstan
This war has nothing to do with Putin either, so why did he invade Ukraine in the firs place then??
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Moving the goalposts again. The comment wasn't about Ukraine, it was about your obsessive, uncontrollable hate of Aaron. You seem unable to deal with the idea of somebody making a success of his life. Be positive for a change
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Don's lost it! Jealousy is driving him mad! Call in Nurse Ratched!

He really has dug such a deep hole for himself and completely lost the plot, that there is no turning back.

Zelenskyy may have his faults, but in the broader scheme of things it has nothing on the butchering that Putin has carried out in the Ukraine, Chehcny, Syria etc.

The fact that he keeps raising Zelensky's faults as some kind of legitimacy for Putin's actions..... mention it once, OK; mention it more than a dozen times, then it just becomes propaganda.

Some of the most shameful behaviour I've ever seen on RP.
I would have thought that you with your wisdom of middle age and your socialist leanings would understand better than anyone what's going on here, but apparently you're just as ignorant as the rest of them.

We're being slowly indoctrinated into entering yet another unwinnable, stupid war. All the media coverage has been about grooming us into accepting that Zelenesky and Ukraine are completely innocent and in need of our protection - hell, we've already been giving them arms, money, military intelligence. The United States is considering giving them long range tactical weapons and 'military advisors' - sounds awfully familiar doesn't it?

Wake up and smell the coffee, this war has nothing whatsoever to do with us and we need to stay right out of it.
don_dunstan
Have you ever had the experience when driving down a highway and there’s an idiot driving towards you in the wrong direction, on the wrong side of the road?

When you’re driving down the highway and EVERY car is driving at you in the wrong direction, on the wrong side of the road - you’re the idiot!
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The United States is considering giving them long range tactical weapons and 'military advisors'
don_dunstan
Because you think only Ukrainians deserve to be killed from afar?

sounds awfully familiar doesn't it?
don_dunstan
Most of what you say sounds awfully familiar, like I have heard it before from someone else - FROM PUTIN!


Wake up and smell the coffee
don_dunstan
What you’re wanting us to smell ain’t coffee, it’s bovine excrement - we’re all in agreement, it’s a no thanks Don.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Moving the goalposts again. The comment wasn't about Ukraine, it was about your obsessive, uncontrollable hate of Aaron. You seem unable to deal with the idea of somebody making a success of his life. Be positive for a change
billybaxter
Aaron probably cries himself to sleep after a bottle of gin each night for all we know. Never make assumptions about how other people are doing on the basis of how they present themselves on a chat-board.
Have you ever had the experience when driving down a highway and there’s an idiot driving towards you in the wrong direction, on the wrong side of the road? When you’re driving down the highway and EVERY car is driving at you in the wrong direction, on the wrong side of the road - you’re the idiot!
Aaron
In 1938 Menzies thought it was a good idea to break a union embargo to get pig iron loaded onto ships for Japan. The majority consensus at that time was that Nazi Germany and Tojo's Japan were actually okay, Hitler had just had the Olympics in Berlin and proved what nice people they were - techincally advanced, they invented freeways don't you know. Germany was considered a modern, progressive nation that we could do business with.

I'm not on the wrong side of history just because you and a few other people here say I am. You want us to enter an unwinnable war against a nuclear-armed adversary immediately after we lost a 20-year war against Islamic fundamentalist goat-herders? Be my guest. I'm going to say 'no' and that Ukraine should sort out the problem itself with the aid of their European allies and without our help.

Call me names, say whatever you want - I don't care. That inkling in the back of your mind that I'm actually right will not go away....
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Because you think only Ukrainians deserve to be killed from afar?
Aaron
You're making exactly the same conclusion about Russians you dolt!
Most of what you say sounds awfully familiar, like I have heard it before from someone else - FROM PUTIN!
Aaron
Yeah right, Putin is going to come to Adelaide and murder me in my bed as I sleep. The next step is for Putin to invade Australia and bomb dowdy old strategically significant Adelaide suburbs that we inhabit to gain an advantage over the West.

Get a grip.
What you’re wanting us to smell ain’t coffee, it’s bovine excrement - we’re all in agreement, it’s a no thanks Don.
Aaron
So what personal sacrifices are you going to make for the Ukrainian war effort, Aaron?

Oh that's right - none. You'll just troll people who think this war is none of our business instead.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
And the fact that Azov are proto-Nazi is well documented by lots of different media sources, buddy - you know that as well as I do.
don_dunstan
I am honestly not sure that I do know that as well as you do, in fact I am quite sure I know they’re absolutely not!

You couldn’t document a SINGLE MEDIA SOURCE that called the Azov ‘Proto-Nazi’, certainly not a single source that knows what they’re talking about anyway.

Proto-Nazi? I don’t think that means what you want to think it means.

Whatever YOU think the Azov are, Proto-Nazi is the most nonsensical thing yet!
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Moving the goalposts again. The comment wasn't about Ukraine, it was about your obsessive, uncontrollable hate of Aaron. You seem unable to deal with the idea of somebody making a success of his life. Be positive for a change
Aaron probably cries himself to sleep after a bottle of gin each night for all we know. Never make assumptions about how other people are doing on the basis of how they present themselves on a chat-board.
don_dunstan
Don't kid yourself, have you seen what time I often post around here? If you think I am typing that well, well through a bottle of gin you're overestimating my typing ability. Say what you want, I don't cry, certainly not over anything you'd say.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
And the fact that Azov are proto-Nazi is well documented by lots of different media sources, buddy - you know that as well as I do.
I am honestly not sure that I do know that as well as you do, in fact I am quite sure I know they’re absolutely not!

You couldn’t document a SINGLE MEDIA SOURCE that called the Azov ‘Proto-Nazi’, certainly not a single source that knows what they’re talking about anyway.

Proto-Nazi? I don’t think that means what you want to think it means.

Whatever YOU think the Azov are, Proto-Nazi is the most nonsensical thing yet!
Aaron
Even the normally very pro-Zelenesky CNN called them Nazis. Give it up, mate, trying to say they're not fascist inspired is a losing battle if ever there was one.

Just drink the rest of that gin and watch Gone with the Wind - it's just started on 76.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Moving the goalposts again. The comment wasn't about Ukraine, it was about your obsessive, uncontrollable hate of Aaron. You seem unable to deal with the idea of somebody making a success of his life. Be positive for a change
Aaron probably cries himself to sleep after a bottle of gin each night for all we know. Never make assumptions about how other people are doing on the basis of how they present themselves on a chat-board.
Don't kid yourself, have you seen what time I often post around here? If you think I am typing that well, well through a bottle of gin you're overestimating my typing ability. Say what you want, I don't cry, certainly not over anything you'd say.
Aaron
Are you kidding? I add the meaning to your life that you've been missing. You can't stay away, Aaron - if you really thought I was that unimportant you wouldn't be here on a Saturday night trying to shout me down. And drunk-typing is exactly the same as drunk-driving - you just have to get practised at it (as you obviously are), that's all...
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Because you think only Ukrainians deserve to be killed from afar?
You're making exactly the same conclusion about Russians you dolt!
don_dunstan
Nope, the Russians have already demonstrated they're more than capable of killing Ukrainians from afar! That's why the Ukrainians need longer range weapons - to attempt to have them fight invaders from their land without so much need to be in harm's way.

Recall, if Putin does not like the treatment his team are getting, they're at every liberty to LEAVE Ukraine, that they CHOOSE to say means they get what they're given.


Most of what you say sounds awfully familiar, like I have heard it before from someone else - FROM PUTIN!
Yeah right, Putin is going to come to Adelaide and murder me in my bed as I sleep. The next step is for Putin to invade Australia and bomb dowdy old strategically significant Adelaide suburbs that we inhabit to gain an advantage over the West.

Get a grip.
don_dunstan
Really? That's what you got from my comment? You think I am worried that Putin is going to come to Adelaide and murder you in your sleep?

Please, in the exceptionally unlikely event that Putin comes to Australia/Adelaide do not fear he's going to murder you in your sleep Don. That would never happen, he's coming to Adelaide purely to thank you in person for all the love and support you've issued him in his quest to flatten a sovereign nation!


What you’re wanting us to smell ain’t coffee, it’s bovine excrement - we’re all in agreement, it’s a no thanks Don.
So what personal sacrifices are you going to make for the Ukrainian war effort, Aaron?

Oh that's right - none. You'll just troll people who think this war is none of our business instead.
don_dunstan
I have done more than you could ever do Don! Way more than you could ever do!

I do not do it to have a big deal made of it, here or anywhere else, so you'll just have to imagine what it is.

What have you done besides kiss Putin's smeg from the opposite side of the World? Spreading pro Putin lies from Chinese and pro Putin media sources is not really a sacrifice of anything other than your credibility.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
And the fact that Azov are proto-Nazi is well documented by lots of different media sources, buddy - you know that as well as I do.
I am honestly not sure that I do know that as well as you do, in fact I am quite sure I know they’re absolutely not!

You couldn’t document a SINGLE MEDIA SOURCE that called the Azov ‘Proto-Nazi’, certainly not a single source that knows what they’re talking about anyway.

Proto-Nazi? I don’t think that means what you want to think it means.

Whatever YOU think the Azov are, Proto-Nazi is the most nonsensical thing yet!
Even the normally very pro-Zelenesky CNN called them Nazis. Give it up, mate, trying to say they're not fascist inspired is a losing battle if ever there was one.

Just drink the rest of that gin and watch Gone with the Wind - it's just started on 76.
don_dunstan
Proto-Nazi? You called them Proto-Nazi! You don't even know what that means do you?
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
I have done more than you could ever do Don! Way more than you could ever do!
Aaron
Pressing buttons on your X-Box is not "doing something", Aaron.
I do not do it to have a big deal made of it, here or anywhere else, so you'll just have to imagine what it is. What have you done besides kiss Putin's smeg from the opposite side of the World? Spreading pro Putin lies from Chinese and pro Putin media sources is not really a sacrifice of anything other than your credibility.
Aaron
Again with the appeal to "I'm really important but I can't tell you why".

If you're so very important then why don't you tell us why you're so important, Aaron? Oh that's right - TOP SECRET.

What is it, Aaron - ASIO business? ASIS? CIA?

Go on - you can tell us. It's just us friends here on Railpage - we won't tell Russian or Chinese intelligence what an important cog in the wheel you are.
  Sonofagunzel Minister for Railways

You couldn’t document a SINGLE MEDIA SOURCE that called the Azov ‘Proto-Nazi’, certainly not a single source that knows what they’re talking about anyway.
Aaron
Why don't these sources count?

Because they are Nazis: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
- don_dunstan
You should stop reading Al Jazeera and instead read a quality newspaper with consistent, unbiased and accurate reporting and no political agendas, like say, The Guardian.

Compare and contrast this:

The Guardian, 10 September 2014

Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat - The battalion's far-right volunteers' desire to 'bring the fight to Kiev' is a danger to post-conflict stability

I have nothing against Russian nationalists, or a great Russia," said Dmitry, as we sped through the dark Mariupol night in a pickup truck, a machine gunner positioned in the back. "But Putin's not even a Russian. Putin's a Jew."

Dmitry – which he said is not his real name – is a native of east Ukraine and a member of the Azov battalion, a volunteer grouping that has been doing much of the frontline fighting in Ukraine's war with pro-Russia separatists. The Azov, one of many volunteer brigades to fight alongside the Ukrainian army in the east of the country, has developed a reputation for fearlessness in battle.

But there is an increasing worry that while the Azov and other volunteer battalions might be Ukraine's most potent and reliable force on the battlefield against the separatists, they also pose the most serious threat to the Ukrainian government, and perhaps even the state, when the conflict in the east is over. The Azov causes particular concern due to the far right, even neo-Nazi, leanings of many of its members.

Dmitry claimed not to be a Nazi, but waxed lyrical about Adolf Hitler as a military leader, and believes the Holocaust never happened. Not everyone in the Azov battalion thinks like Dmitry, but after speaking with dozens of its fighters and embedding on several missions during the past week in and around the strategic port city of Mariupol, the Guardian found many of them to have disturbing political views, and almost all to be intent on "bringing the fight to Kiev" when the war in the east is over.
... to this:

The Guardian, 9 May 2022

‘Surrender is not an option’: Azov battalion commander in plea for help to escape Mariupol
Two thousand Ukrainian troops thought to be trapped inside steelworks after civilian evacuation

The Azov battalion has been central to Russia’s justification for invading Ukraine. Russia claims its members are neo-Nazis who are responsible for “Nazifying” Ukraine.

Azov fighters say its membership holds a range of political opinions. Azov formed as a volunteer battalion in 2014 to fight Russian-backed forces and some its leaders are known to hold far-right views. But since 2015, it has been part of the Ukrainian army and no longer attracts only far-right combatants.

Russian propaganda has long exaggerated the domestic influence of Azov in Ukraine as well as the scale of its membership.

Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has worked to transform the image of the fighters internationally and in Ukraine. Many now view them as heroes.
Sonofagunzel
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
I do get the impression that Aaron is just a morbidly obese twenty-something guzzling KFC who wants us to believe he's important. Nothing he's ever said has ever presented the opposite view.

Hot and Spicy is on at KFC right now, Aaron - but you already knew that didn't you mate.
  Sonofagunzel Minister for Railways

This entire thread seems to consist of people who can't help but overstate their case.

Don hasn't done his arguments any favours by appearing to draw a moral equivalence between Putin and Zelenskyy, and getting some of his facts wrong. But his underlying points - that Zelenskyy may not be pure as the driven snow, that there are credible reports that the Azov military may be neo-Nazi, that it's dangerous to get involved in other people's wars, and that there's a lot of pro-Ukraine propaganda in the Western media, are probably sound or at least reasonable.

Aaron and RTT_Rules do themselves no favours by trying to paint Don as pro-Putin. Nothing I've read here supports that contention.  But their points - that Putin's worse, Putin is the aggressor, the sanctions are biting the Russian people, Ukraine deserves support and that it's in the West's interests to provide it - are also probably sound.

I do find Aaron's self-inflation and Don's responses to it quite amusing.  It's the only reason to read to this thread.  

But by all means, keep mindlessly slogging it out.  Seems to be what the Soapbox is for - Railpage Fightclub.

Right now, I'd say Aaron's ahead on points.  You can tell he's not losing by the fact that he hasn't run away. Yet.
  WimbledonW Deputy Commissioner

Location: Sydney
The following website is about Russia's logistics in the Russo-Ukraine war and also the use of Railroads. About 20 minutes.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4wRdoWpw0w
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Putin urged by Germany and France to engage in serious, direct talks with Zelenesky and apparently 'open' to resuming the discussion - BBC;

Emmanuel Macron and Olaf Scholz spoke to Mr Putin by phone for 80 minutes.

The pair "insisted on an immediate ceasefire and a withdrawal of Russian troops", the chancellor's office said.

Russia's leader said Moscow was open to resuming dialogue with Kyiv, according to the Kremlin...

...Elsewhere in the call, the French and German leaders asked Mr Putin to lift Russia's blockade of the Ukrainian port of Odesa, to allow for grain exports.

The Kremlin said Mr Putin offered to look at options, to help address the risk of a global food crisis - but demanded that the West lift sanctions.
  8502 Assistant Commissioner

Russian president Vladimir Putin has been given just three years to live by doctors, it’s claimed.

A growing number of unconfirmed reports alledge the 69-year-old president has cancer and that his health is deteriorating quickly.

And now an FSB officer has claimed Putin “has no more than two to three years to stay alive”, adding the Russian president has “a severe form of rapidly progressing cancer”.

Messages said to be from the unidentified Russian spy to FSB defector Boris Karpichkov also say Putin is losing his sight and suffering from headaches.

© Provided by The IndependentPutin is under the spotlight as the Ukraine war shows no sign of ending soon (Mikhail Metzel, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP)

“We are told he is suffering from headaches and when he appears on TV he needs pieces of paper with everything written in huge letters to read what he’s going to say,” the Russian officer told the Sunday Mirror.

“They are so big each page can only hold a couple of sentences. His eyesight is seriously worsening.”

The spy added that Putin’s limbs are “now also shaking uncontrollably”.

Previous footage from earlier this year appeared to show his hand shaking, while as he also appeared to grip a table for support during a meeting broadcast in April.

Vladimir Putin ‘given three years to live’ and ‘is losing his eyesight due to illness’ spy claims (msn.com)

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