NTFS tarp on K&S Flatrack

 

News article: NTFS tarp on K&S Flatrack

Not something you would normally see.

  8502 Assistant Commissioner

That tarp would probably be from a semi trailer load and repurposed for a rail wagon of approximately the same length.  Why have timber wagons or as they call them in the USA lumber wagons design not made it our here?

I have seen how logs are carried both on open wagons and also containers but finished or processed timber would that usually be in that style or load?

NTFS tarp on K&S Flatrack

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  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Why have timber wagons or as they call them in the USA lumber wagons design not made it our here?

8502

Is the demand there?
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I must be missing something as I see nothing unusual in this load.

To me the pic is a tarped 37 foot tray. These were very common years ago, perhaps less so today, having to some extent been supplanted by 40+ foot curtain sided containers.

Both designs suit long loading which cannot be end loaded into a standard container. The picture attached to this thread illustrates this perfectly with what looks like long lengths of (perhaps imported?) wrapped finished timber.

I see no significance in the ownership of the tray or the tarp as these would have been delivered to rail by road from a Forwarding Agent in the same manner as any other container.

The CR ROX/AQOX 75 foot flats were built specifically to carry two such trays back in the 1970s. Victoria and the WAGR had similar wagons.
  8502 Assistant Commissioner

Why have timber wagons or as they call them in the USA lumber wagons design not made it our here?

Is the demand there?
bingley hall

That is really in part my question does finished timber products move on rail in Australia?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
I must be missing something as I see nothing unusual in this load.

To me the pic is a tarped 37 foot tray. These were very common years ago, perhaps less so today, having to some extent been supplanted by 40+ foot curtain sided containers.

Both designs suit long loading which cannot be end loaded into a standard container. The picture attached to this thread illustrates this perfectly with what looks like long lengths of (perhaps imported?) wrapped finished timber.

I see no significance in the ownership of the tray or the tarp as these would have been delivered to rail by road from a Forwarding Agent in the same manner as any other container.
YM-Mundrabilla
It's a way more common 40ft flat container with overhang (37ft containers havent been a thing in forever), K&S do the same thing but with steel. Loaded on a 5 platform x 48ft articulated container wagon.

The tarp is of note since NTFS hasnt existed for a while, probably the same one I saw in the PN yard the other week on a train being prepped to go North.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Why have timber wagons or as they call them in the USA lumber wagons design not made it our here?

Is the demand there?

That is really in part my question does finished timber products move on rail in Australia?
8502
Yeah, but we do much better with containerisation. The wagon can be useful both ways and not cause derailments (like they do when empty and loaded in a bad spot in the consist like they do in the US!)

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