NEW OPERATOR SOON `TRANZIT JIM pty'

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jimontrack Chief Train Controller

Dear Rail buffs,  I can announce that, a new rail operator, may be set up in the next few weeks.

Facts about TRANZIT JIM pty  (TJp)

TRANZIT JIM was registered as a trade mark in 1999.

Been a dream of their founder since 1989.

Business scope is `comprehensive railway operator' but is going to start off small somewhere.

A sole trader, owned by one person, also to be director.

-------- Known to rail buffs only as `TRANZIT JIM himself'.

Differs from `Garry McDonald' (WCR fame) in that TJ,

>>TJ hates the PTC, and would not want to work under them, but is very much wants to take them on.

>>Whilst TJ has the same passion for Steam, TJ also has a strong passion for Freight trains, and Modern Passenger also. (I guess not that much different thow)

Where and When are they to start ?

>Business plans are in the final stage, a lender is standing by, and the rest will come after TJ gets finance approved.

>Where to start, Melbourne, and Victoria.

What services to begin doing ?

For two reasons, TJ are trying to go after a string of different markets at the same time, with different trains and etc.  Mostly for `safety via investment diversity' AND TJ has big eyes, with big plans.

Plans are,  Bluebirds on two or three routes out of Melbourne,

>Melbourne - Ararat - Dimboola

>Melbourne - Albury (Would go further to Junee except for Rail Safety accreditation fees etc, and will go to Junee once that has been settled)

Also,  Melbourne - Maroona - Portland is in the plans, except that TJ does not like dealing with other rail operators for track access.

Second Plans are,  Hitatchis, with U-Boats as the trailers, on Hitatchi Bogies.

>>Melbourne - Newport Workshops (weekends timed to match the A.R.H.S Museum shedule)

>>Melbourne - Stoney Point (Loco Hauled Frankston - Stoney Pt, Like the old E-Trains, but the Hitatchi Ms would stay attached for the whole journey - two sets will cross near to Kannanook?)

Z Class trams,  VineLander Cars, and other stuff are also of interest to TJ.

Swap bogies under U-Boat and a Hitatchi former D, use it to drive a Locomotive at other end of proposed diner tour to Seymour Loop.  Diner cars are still being looked for.

SPECIALS TO LOOK OUT FOR

>First runs of each of the above tours - exclusive to rail buffs

>Bluebird trailer between two Hitatchi Motors on Melbournes BG.

>Other weird and wacky ideas and combos are yet to come to my mind.

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Anyone has, Rollingstock For sale or Lease,  TJ, favorite source of second hand stock is, `www.railequipment.com.au'.   We like to use them to deal with, thow are dealing with others.

 
rjaygee Banned

Location: Banned

Bit late for April 1

Cheers

Rod Gayford

 
John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs

Bit late for April 1

- rjaygee

 Very Happy

Dear Rail buffs,  I can announce that, a new rail operator, may be set up in the next few weeks.

Facts about TRANZIT JIM pty  (TJp)

A sole trader, owned by one person, also to be director.

-------- Known to rail buffs only as `TRANZIT JIM himself'.

- jimontrack

You?

Differs from `Garry McDonald' (WCR fame) in that TJ,

>>TJ hates the PTC, and would not want to work under them, but is very much wants to take them on.

- jimontrack

Who's the PTC  (these days)?

Also,  Melbourne - Maroona - Portland is in the plans, except that TJ does not like dealing with other rail operators for track access.

- jimontrack

Umm, wouldn't you—er, he—have to deal with other rail operators wherever he runs?

 
jimontrack Chief Train Controller

To John of Melbourne

The ARTC, is not another operator.  

I can operate quite freely all over their network, without talking with any `rail operator'

 
mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne

You'll have to talk to Connex for the Stony and Newport runs, and PN for anywhere which isn't Connex (eg you'll have to stable somewhere).

Call me a wet blanket if you like, but the "private railway boom" of the 1990s is well and truly over. There is a definite tendency towards FEWER rail operators, not more.

And your policy of not working with other operators is going to kill you. The only way you'll be able to survive and get money in is by leasing locos to PN to keep the cash flow going.

Your ideas for pass services are pretty grand, but without a subsidy you're unlikely to be able to make a "goer" of it. Track access is expensive (especially on the SG main lines to Ararat-Dimboola and Albury), and you can't put your fares up too high or you'll price yourself out of the market. A premium service with a premium fare might work, but would be more of a tourist venture than a normal transport service.

 
michaelgreenhill - Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne

ha...ha...ha...

 
Brassy Chief Commissioner

Location: Gippsland

I for one am not keen to continue the Australian tradition of cutting down tall poppies or pi**ing on people's parade, but this one seems utter pie-in-the-sky.

Wait for reality to kick in:

1/ Certification of all passenger rolling stock, examinations, repairs etc. Never mind the hair-brained schemes of putting Uboats and Bluebirds behind Hitachis, just getting ANY pass stock certified to run will be prohibitively expensive.

2/ Insurance. No need to say any more about this one, just try making an enquiry to find out.

3/ Getting paths through the system, try that on for size.

4/ You are going to take on the current operators? Do you imagine they are just going to roll over and let you? They might roll over all right, kacking themselves laughing.

5/ The services you mention will not earn you any real dollars, and most likely would not cover running expenses for each trip.

I could go on but there is no point wasting verbage on this.

 
FieldShunt74 - Moderator Chief Commissioner

Why are people replying to this thread like it was serious? We should be encouraging jimontrack to expand his plans to include a rail tunnel to Antarctica to bring back ice to irrigate the Simpson Desert and other similarly unlikely scenarios. Don't split hairs with him about track access! He will most likely build his own lines on superior alignments and generate much revenue from access charges. Watch out Chris Corrigan!

 
GNR10 Chief Commissioner

You're not Earthworm Jim by any chance?

 
FieldShunt74 - Moderator Chief Commissioner

Could be Jim of "Jim's Mowing" fame.

 
mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne

No, then it would be called "Jim's Trains".

Then again, that would sound like a kid's train set.

 
U25B Junior Train Controller

This sounds like a freelance model railway at a club somewhere!

 
Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter

U25B, reminds me years ago of when the Maitland Model Railway Club moved to a new location. All other clus around Aust got a letter stating that a recent earth quake moved the railway some 5km. All land (track base) was belived to have shifted in mulitable pieces.

Getting back to the topic. I think you will have a width problem with the U Boats, I think they are the same width as a Tangara, if that's the case they will not make it past the first platform. Hence the 4D being narrower than the Tangaras.

I guess if it works we better find a good baker. We are going to need a few thousand Humble Pies.

 
Webslave - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Altona, Melbourne

I recommend anyone interested in find out more on this story to contact:

James Sinclair

      49 Halcyon Way

      NARRE WARREN,3805,VIC

      AUSTRALIA

      (03) 8790 5574

Don't forget to ask for James, because I dont think the phone is his!  Smile

 
jimontrack Chief Train Controller

IGNORE  `WEBMASTERS'   POST

The address posted `IS NOT - AN OFFICE OF TRANZIT JIM'

DO NOT CONTACT THAT PHONE NUMBER FOR INFO ON TRANZIT JIM

YOU WILL ONLY BE TREATED IN A JUST MANNER - QUITE RUDELY

IT is not like `TRANZIT JIM' himself (Nor me) has been advertising this address as being a place that you can contact TRANZIT JIM at for any purpose or reason relating to TRANZIT JIM.

 
jimontrack Chief Train Controller

********* CONTACT DETAILS ARE COMING SOON *****

I can not disclose the details just yet, but things are now in the process of getting set up.

The full list of information with reguards to what is going on with TRANZIT JIM, will be disclosed shortly (next few weeks)

I can not disclose the forms, nor the other details but, I can say, watch this space.

 
Webslave - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Altona, Melbourne

En contrare my boy.  Check out here:  http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/atmoss/falcon.application_start

Be sure to check out trademark number:  802588.

Public records are a wonderful thing.  You know, if you hadn't been posting such blatantly contradictory and misleading messages all the time - we wouldn't have had so many complaints, and this wouldn't have been neccesary.

 
FieldShunt74 - Moderator Chief Commissioner

Getting back to the topic. I think you will have a width problem with the U Boats, I think they are the same width as a Tangara, if that's the case they will not make it past the first platform. Hence the 4D being narrower than the Tangaras.

- Shacks

U boats (the NSW single deck interurban as opposed to the USA GE diesels) are narrower than a Tangara and should be able to go almost anywhere.

Tangara width = 3000 mm

U boat width = 2946 mm

But we are talking about Victoria here and I believe their loading gauge is more restrictive than NSW. I don't think it matters because I reckon it's all one person's fantasy come leg pull.  Rolling Eyes

 
Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter

Thanks FieldShunt, I think they will still be too wide.

 
Stoker_Motor Chief Train Controller

Location: Halsey Theater

A B Class diesel is 2972mm wide. The uboat trailers should fit.

 
Stoker_Motor Chief Train Controller

Location: Halsey Theater

I take a break for a couple of weeks and come back to this?

Dear Rail buffs,  I can announce that, a new rail operator, may be set up in the next few weeks.

- jimontrack



I can't wait

Differs from `Garry McDonald' (WCR fame) in that TJ,

- jimontrack



probably wont ever turn a wheel. WCR under Mr. McDonald was a succesful operation.



>>TJ hates the PTC, and would not want to work under them, but is very much wants to take them on.

- jimontrack



along with taking on their large gov't subsidy. Smart first step.

Where and When are they to start ?

- jimontrack



That's the $24 question. Anyone want to run bets on this?

For two reasons, TJ are trying to go after a string of different markets at the same time, with different trains and etc.  Mostly for `safety via investment diversity' AND TJ has big eyes, with big plans.

- jimontrack



any plans for a big fall?



Second Plans are,  Hitatchis, with U-Boats as the trailers, on Hitatchi Bogies.

>>Melbourne - Newport Workshops (weekends timed to match the A.R.H.S Museum shedule)

- jimontrack



It's a nice easy walk from garden platform to the ARHS musuem. That should see the punters turn up in droves.



Swap bogies under U-Boat and a Hitatchi former D, use it to drive a Locomotive at other end of proposed diner tour to Seymour Loop.  Diner cars are still being looked for.

- jimontrack



Good to see you'll have the drivers on side with the D cars coming back as lead units. You'll be fighting them off with a stick. There are a couple of dining cars at Dynon that should be suitable for your purposes. They are stored near RTS.



SPECIALS TO LOOK OUT FOR

>First runs of each of the above tours - exclusive to rail buffs

>Bluebird trailer between two Hitatchi Motors on Melbournes BG.

- jimontrack



Forget about trying to encourage regular patrons to come on the trips, just invite the rail buffs. A receipe for success if i've ever heard one.

>Other weird and wacky ideas and combos are yet to come to my mind.

- jimontrack



When they do, please post them here. This is better than the comedy festival.

 
mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne

Stoker Motor, I don't think Jim understands that sort of humour... look at his post in the thread about Puffing Billy going back to Upper Gully.

I appreciate it though! Laughing

 
Stoker_Motor Chief Train Controller

Location: Halsey Theater

Point taken. I now actually want to meet this guy. What's the saying about a fool and his money?

 
T411 - Moderator Moderator

Location: Somewhere

Point taken. I now actually want to meet this guy. What's the saying about a fool and his money?

- Stoker_Motor



And i'll happily share the proceeds Razz

On a slightly more serious note, having a business degree, experience in business and in rail operations I cannot see this venture working. This is based upon the 'attitude' coming through in the opening post, before any analysis is made of the "ideas" I won't go there, others already have and I would just be repeating there sentiments.

 
DavidB - Moderator Site Admin

Location: Canberra

Swap bogies under U-Boat and a Hitatchi former D, use it to drive a Locomotive at other end of proposed diner tour to Seymour Loop.  Diner cars are still being looked for.

- jimontrack



A prize of good karma to anybody who can detail the three major reasons why this won't work. I'll give some hints:

1) Electrical

2) Weight

3) Brakes

Cheers

David

 

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