VLP Inter City Before & After RFR Timetable

 
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Made a comparison of mid 1990's travel times and those to apply from March '07 with some interesting pluses and minuses :

- Warrnambool - Ave now  3 hrs 26 mins  (6 mins longer than 1995) owing to extra stops at Sth Geelong, Nth Geelong, Lara & Sherwood Park .
(CRosses deleted beyond Geelong have also covered for the extra stops.)

- Ararat - Ave now  2 hrs 25 Dn and  2 hrs 10 Up.  Generally 30 faster owing to RFR (Ballarat - Melbourne) and 130 kmh running (Ballarat - Ararat).

- Swan Hill   - Ave now 4 hrs 15 Dn  4 hrs 10 Up. 5 longer than before owing to extra stops at Woodend & Gisborne.

- Echuca -  Ave now 3 hrs 20 mins accout extra stops between Bendigo - Melbourne.

- Shepparton -  2 hrs 30 mins Dn  2 hrs 25 Up.  10 mins longer on down and 5 longer on Up owing to extra stops between Seymour and Melbourne.

- Albury -  3 hrs 40 Dn  3 hrs 45 Up  . No change.
(Although extra stops added to WD midday Up & Dn beyond Seymour.)

- Bairnsdale -  3 hrs 55 Dn  3 hrs 40 Up . 5 longer on Dn
No change on Up. Extra stops at  Garfield & Drouin.  

Service frequency pluses : (one way trips per week)

- Warrnambool - now has Sunday am Dn & Up as extras. (+2)
- Ararat - has Midday Up & Dn extra on WD & second return service on Sundays.  (+12)
- Swan Hill - now has second return service 7 days a week. (+ 14)
- Echuca - now extra return trip WD, 2 extra return trips on sat, and 1 extra return trip on Sun. ( + 16)
- Albury - same number of services as 1995. (No change).
(On completion Craigieburn electrification to get extra midday Up & Dn Sat, plus midday Dn Sun. ( + 3 to come).
- Shepparton - has extra midday Up & Dns on WD. ( + 10)
(On completion Craigiebiurn electrification to get extra Sunday am Up & Dn trips. ( + further 2 to come).
- Bairnsdale - has extra  midday Dn and PM Up on Mon - Sat;  and early Sunday PM Up altered to Sunday am Up.  ( + 12 ). (Extra Bairnsdale trips are extensions of former Sale trips.)
Total extra Inter City trips  +  66  (+ 5 more later in 2007) = 71 per week.

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Interesting comparison Kuldalai,

Now for something really out of left field, let's compare todays frequency and running times of services to say, what was on offer in the 80's or even earlier the 70's or 60's.

Mike.

PS, I'll make a start with the 60's and the Warrnambool line.

1962 for example has 2 services each way each day on Mon to Sat's only. Nothing on the down on Sundays past Geelong, however the morning service was the extension of the 'Geelong Flier.'
And there was one Sunday up service from W'bool which, being semi-express did the trip in the fastest time of 4' 6".

Average running time from Melb to W'bool 4' 20" but with 6 more stops than today. Allansford and Sherwood Park being virtually identical locations, so one cancels the other.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

1960 is the oldest timetable I hold, here's a similar comparison :

This comparison is between the Summer 1960 VR travel times and those to apply from March '07 with VLP :  You sure needed to have patience to travel with VR back in the 1960's. Amazing what new locos and closing over  80 smaller stations in October 1981 has done for accelerating services, albeit Intercity line speeds are basically the same then and now . Closing refresh rooms, refresh on trains and less station time for parcels has also had an effect.

- Warrnambool - Ave now 3 hrs 26 mins WAS  4 hrs 15 mins
- Port Fairy  -  5 hrs 30 mins  NOW  deceased  late 1970's.

- Ararat - Ave now 2 hrs 25 Dn and 2 hrs 10 Up. WAS  4 hrs 10 mins.
- Horsham  WAS  6 hrs 10 mins  Jeffed  1993
- Dimboola  WAS  5 hrs 55 mins  Jeffed  1993

- Mildura  WAS  10 hrs 40 mins  Jeffed  1993

- Swan Hill - Ave now 4 hrs 15 Dn 4 hrs 10 Up.  WAS  5 hrs 40 mins

- Echuca - Ave now 3 hrs 20 mins   WAS  3 hrs 55 mins
(WAS DERM Echuca/Bendigo then Pass Bendigo/Melbourne, NOW through Velocity).

- Shepparton - 2 hrs 30 mins Dn 2 hrs 25 Up.  WAS   3 hrs 20 mins
- Tocumwal  -  WAS  5 hrs 15 mins    Deceased  ?
- Numurkah -  WAS  3 hrs 10 mins  Jeffed  1993

- Albury - 3 hrs 40 Dn 3 hrs 45 Up . WAS  5 hrs  25  mins .

- Bairnsdale - 3 hrs 55 Dn 3 hrs 40 Up . WAS  4 hrs 50 mins .

- Yarram -  WAS  4 hrs 30 mins   Deceased   ?
- Leongatha  WAS  2 hrs 50 mins  Jeffed  1993  

Service frequency pluses : (one way trips per week)

- Warrnambool -   NOW  40    WAS   25  
- Port Fairy - WAS  12

- Ararat - NOW   38  WAS 24
- Horsham -  WAS  24
- Dimboola -  WAS  15

- Mildura  WAS  10

- Swan Hill - NOW  28  WAS  12

- Echuca -   NOW   18    WAS  18  

- Albury -   NOW  39     (to be  42  )   WAS   50  
(Was includes  bg  12 Daylight &  14  SOP)

- Shepparton - NOW  36  (to be  38)  WAS  24
- Tocumwal  WAS  12
- Numurkah  WAS  25

- Bairnsdale - NOW  40  WAS  16

- Yarram  -  WAS  12
- Leongatha - WAS    35
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Your town.
1960 is the oldest timetable I hold, here's a similar comparison :

This comparison is between the Summer 1960 VR travel times and those to apply from March '07 with VLP :  You sure needed to have patience to travel with VR back in the 1960's. Amazing what new locos and closing over  80 smaller stations in October 1981 has done for accelerating services, albeit Intercity line speeds are basically the same then and now . Closing refresh rooms, refresh on trains and less station time for parcels has also had an effect.


- Bairnsdale - 3 hrs 55 Dn 3 hrs 40 Up . WAS  4 hrs 50 mins .

"kuldalai"


Bairnsdale services were a bit unique in that it involved a loco change at Traralgon, and a loco run around at the dead-end station at Sale. Although this didn't account for all of the time difference in your comparison, it was certainly a major contributing factor.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
1960 is the oldest timetable I hold, here's a similar comparison :
"kuldalai"


Thanks Kuldalai for the comparison, which I believe was typical for the previous 20 years as well from about the early 40's to 1960 with only some acceleration of services, but little or no change in frequency after the introduction of diesels from 1952 onwards.

Mike.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

The big step changes in the recent country VR/VLP history have been :

- October  1981. Introduction fixed consist working. Fleet modernisation, new locos, cars. Frequencies increased by approx 1/3 on all routes.
Over 80 smaller stations closed to passenger traffic in one day. Wooden bodied fleet reduced from 360 to just over 100 on one day .

- Early  1990's introduction of Sprinters

- 1993 withdrawal of rail passenger services beyond Ballarat to Dimboola and Mildura, beyond Shepparton to Cobram, beyond Sale to Bairnsdale, and to Leongatha .

- Mid 1990's  frequency increases  102 extra trips per week on Ballarat, Bendigo, Seymour  and Traralgon corridors. Weekend rail services to Echuca introduced.

- On NX arrival (late 1999) approx 100 additional Inter Urban trips per week added.

- Early 2000's restoration rail passengers services to Ararat & Bairnsdale, introduction Velocity trains . Shepparton & Warrnambool services return to VLP operation .

- 2006  Introduction new RFR timetable Sept dramatically increasing frequency of rail services and wider span hours of services, including additional Inter City services. Opening SSS station.

- 2007  Introduction daily rail services to Echuca.
Additional Velocity trains on order.
  Nexas The Ghost of George Stephenson

Is there a list somewhere online of the 80+ stations that closed on the one day in 1981?
  standard_gauge Dr Beeching

Location: Outside the toilet, waiting for Della Bosca to come out !!


- 1993 withdrawal of rail passenger services beyond Ballarat to Dimboola and Mildura, beyond Shepparton to Cobram, beyond Sale to Bairnsdale, and to Leongatha .

- Mid 1990's  frequency increases  102 extra trips per week on Ballarat, Bendigo, Seymour  and Traralgon corridors. Weekend rail services to Echuca introduced.

- On NX arrival (late 1999) approx 100 additional Inter Urban trips per week added.

- Early 2000's restoration rail passengers services to Ararat & Bairnsdale, introduction Velocity trains . Shepparton & Warrnambool services return to VLP operation .

- 2006  Introduction new RFR timetable Sept dramatically increasing frequency of rail services and wider span hours of services, including additional Inter City services. Opening SSS station.

- 2007  Introduction daily rail services to Echuca.
Additional Velocity trains on order.
"kuldalai"


1991, Death of Intercapital Daylight.

1992, Australian National passenger division took over management of Overland, Vline no longer looks after Overland.  

1993 Nov, death Melb/Syd express, over night XPT starts

1996 Daylight XPT starts

1997 Overland sold to GSR consortium.

1998 Alice Spring Ghan starts once weekly and Overland no longer operate daily.

2000, Overland escape death sentance with Victorian state government offer subsidy and timetable changed.

2003 Nov Ghan stopped coming to Melbourne.

2004 WCR ceased operation, VLP took over.

2005 Overland retimetable to daylight only.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Your town.
Is there a list somewhere online of the 80+ stations that closed on the one day in 1981?
"Nexas"


No idea, so why not make it a challenge for us to name them all?

On the Eastern line, closures included Fernbank between Stratford and Bairnsdale, and Darnum between Yarragon and Warragul.

Other stations taken out of regular VicRail passenger service but not closed include Hallam, Narre Warren, Berwick (although it still exists as a V/Line stop for the school kids), Beaconsfield and Officer. No idea if General Motors was a peak stopping place or not.

So there's at least 7.

Next!
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Is there a list somewhere online of the 80+ stations that closed on the one day in 1981?
"Nexas"
Try Andrew Waugh's maps - compare the 1980 and 1990 versions:
http://www.vrhistory.com/VRMaps/index.htm
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Other stations taken out of regular VicRail passenger service but not closed include Hallam, Narre Warren, Berwick (although it still exists as a V/Line stop for the school kids), Beaconsfield and Officer. No idea if General Motors was a peak stopping place or not.
"DirtyBallast"

V/Line did stop at General Motors.  Some GMH workers came from the Gippsland direction.  I also heard about at least one bloke who chose to change from the V/Line train to the spark at General Motors instead of Dandenong, as he got 100% choice of seats (even though he needed to cross the footbridge to do this)!
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Is there a list somewhere online of the 80+ stations that closed on the one day in 1981?
"Nexas"
Try Andrew Waugh's maps - compare the 1980 and 1990 versions:
http://www.vrhistory.com/VRMaps/index.htm
"wongm"

They might be some guide, but those maps don't show whether they were open for passengers or not, which is the point in question, isn't it?
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Here is the list of 82 Country stations closed  to pass trains October 1981:
- South  Western :  Moriac, Pirron Yallock, Boorcan, Panmure, Allansford,
Moorabool, Gheringhap, Bannockburn, Lethbridge, Meredith, Elaine, Lal Lal, Yendon.
- Western :  Parwan, Gordon, Bungaree, Warrenheip, Wendouree, Trawalla, Buangor, Great Western, Glenorchy,
Lubeck, Maroona, Willaura, Glen Thompson, Dunkeld, Hamilton, Branxholme, Condah, Heywood, Portland North.
- North Western :  Creswick, Clunes, Talbot, Dunolly, Bealiba,  Lascelles, Tempy.
- Northern :  Carlsruhe, Elphinstone, Harcourt, Golden Square, Raywood, Prairie, Mitiamo, Macorna, Lake Boga.
- Goulburn Valley :  Toolamba, Tatura, Merrigum, Kyabram, Ky Valley (R.M.S.P.), Tongala., Strathmerton, Cobram.  
- North Eastern :  Mangalore, Longwood, Glenrowan.
- Eastern :  Darnum, Fernbank, Lindenow.
- South Eastern : Lyndhurst, Cranbourne, Clyde, Tooradin, Dalmore, Koo Wee Rup, Monomeith, Lang Lang,   Nyora, Loch, Korumburra, Leongatha,
Meeniyan, Bufallo, Fish Creek, Foster, Toora, Welshpool, Alberton, Yarram.

Notes:
1. Bus services had operated Geelong - Ballarat prior to this date owing to shortage rail motors.
2. Passenger services beyond Numurkah withdrawn 10/81 subsequently restored by change of Government, to finally be withdrawn beyond Shepparton in 1993.
3. Glenrowan subsequently re-opened for a short time to cater for package tour patrons one weekday per week. Subsequently closed finally on rationalization of Nth East bg trackwork in late 1980's.
4.  Rail passenger services totally withdrawn to Leongatha &  Yarram  and replaced by buses October 1981.
Rail services subsequently restored to Leongatha by change of Government only to be withdrawn again in 1993.

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