VR Grampians Line Remnants (Big Pics)

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ThatGuyOverThere Deputy Commissioner

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Good evening,

Recently visited Stawell on a SG chase with a friend, and found the remains of the old Grampians line on the down side. Followed it as far as Fyans Creek, it's amazing how much is left after 50-odd years, even despite recent bushfires... Found three locations where substantial bridge remains can be found.

It appears to be in the process of being converted to a rail trail of some sort, and whoever is in charge has opted to divert around the remains of the bridges rather than create new ones out of the 'bones'. Fantastic decision.

However after Fyans Creek we lost the formation, it seems to disappear after a driveway a few metres beyond the platform remains, and we weren't able to pick it up from there. Does anybody have any details of where it goes after that?

A few photos will follow shortly...


ThatGuyOverThere Deputy Commissioner

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Bridge 1:

Bridge 2:

Bridge 3:


Rodo Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Riverina

The line went on to a sandstone quarry at the Grampians.


Iain Deputy Commissioner

Location: Concord, NSW

It connected to the granite quarries at Heatherlie.

BTW the line seems to have been constructed without any legislative approval to transport granite to the Parliament building. There was difficulty in formally closing it because it had never been officially opened.


ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.

The early history of the Stawell - Grampians line was published by R.K. Whitehead - I am unsure whether it made it into a specific publication.

The local high school is involved with the restoration of the trail I believe. Surprisingly the Stawell-Grampians staff also survives.


ThatGuyOverThere Deputy Commissioner

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Thanks for the history. It certainly seemed to be an unusual design, done relatively cheap as it's so flat and straight. Also found a vintage VR drain pipe! (I know, fascinating stuff. Rolling Eyes )

Has anybody managed to find the remains beyond Fyans Creek? This was the difficult section, we couldn't find a thing past there.


standard_gauge Dr Beeching

Location: Outside the toilet, waiting for Della Bosca to come out !!

I recalled after Fyans Creek there were one or two platform formation.


penov Chief Commissioner

Location: By the shore of Bass Strait.

standard_gauge wrote:
I recalled after Fyans Creek there were one or two platform formation.
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Has anybody managed to find the remains beyond Fyans Creek? This was the difficult section, we couldn't find a thing past there.
It is many years since I have seen the line, but I can give you details of a map which may assist in further visits.

As quoted above, it went out to the Heatherlie Granite Quarry. This was located on the Halls Gap - Mount Zero Road ( on some maps shown as Halls Gap - Flat Rock Rd) at about the point where the Heatherlie - Ledcourt Track intersects (on VicRoads map 56A2).

The track was running virtually west from Stawell when it hit the Halls Gap - Fyans Creek Road. From there it diverged north west, probably close to Pine Road for about 2km. to where the Heatherlie Track went north, but the railway continued through the bush north westerly for about 3km to the quarry.

To gat a map which shows the right of way, go into land.vic.gov.au select Interactive Map and specify Property map centre Vicroads 56 A2.The right of way at that end appears completely between Fyans Creek and the quarry, although betweeen Fyans Creek and Stawell a number of properties have had the right of way removed. but it is still possible to trace the general direction of the line. Hope this helps.


ThatGuyOverThere Deputy Commissioner

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Excellent, thanks very much for that. We had no problems finding the right of way between Stawell and Fyans Creek, most of it had become trail already, and we were able to spot old right of way on private property. That map gives a very good idea of where it went after that. Excellent for future reference!


Party Junior Train Controller

Location: Within the Margin of Error

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The early history of the Stawell - Grampians line was published by R.K. Whitehead - I am unsure whether it made it into a specific publication.

The tour notes from the A.R.E. DAY TOUR - Grampians Spring Exploration Tour - Saturday 6 November 2004 contain the most comprehensive history of this line that I have been able to find.

R K Whitehead was one of the contributors for these notes.

I purchased a copy of these notes from the Railfan Shop in Melbourne a couple of years ago, but I don't know if they still have any left.


ianc Locomotive Fireman

Excuse me dragging this thread up from the past for my first post, but I have recently (re)visted the Grampians and done a bit of a exploration of this line. The results are at :

http://www.smoke.com.au/~ic/walks/heath ... erlie.html

Here's a sample The pics aren't that great due to the somewhat ancient digital camera..

IanC


wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

Location: Trying to get used to the brand new poota.....and not getting very far.....

Nice work, ianc Clap - good that you have visually preserved these sights before time & other events step in and remove them from sight forever Sad


NR77 Chief Commissioner

Excellent work there - it looks like quite an interesting line to walk along with all those bridges!


AclassGunzel Deputy Commissioner

Great writeup on whats left out there. Did you manage to locate the two stations of the line - Fyan's Ck & Grampians?

cheers.


ianc Locomotive Fireman

I didn't actually locate the stations, this time, but the Grampians end is pretty obviously running up next to the actual quarry. Theres remains of tramways eg rails and some small trolleys still there . Its a well sign posted tourist area. I did walk around there last year.

Heres some pics some of the quarry tramways

I think I probably walked up and down the opposite side of the road where the Fysns Ck station would be several times. Doh! In my defence I didn't have a very good idea of the station location. Having since looked at the 'Gradients and curves' info, I think it must have been on the south side of where Fyans Ck rd and Heatherlie rd join. - lots of stuff to still look for next time .


penov Chief Commissioner

Location: By the shore of Bass Strait.

The following information has been copied from the Heatherlie Quarry thread on this forum which may be of interest:

Posted by Dreadnought 14 Nov 2005 : Passenger trains were worked on the Grampians line on many occasions - generally as "picnic" trains to see the wildflowers. In fact they became so common that in 1892, two 100 foot wooden platforms built from old sleepers were constructed, one at Fyans Creek and the other at Mount Dryden.

1892 saw also at least three trains ( including one for the Governor) and 1893 had at least two. There were also passenger trains in the latter years of the 1890's.

1914, 1918 and 1919 tigether accounted for a total of 14 passenger trains on the Grampians line carrying some 5,187 passengers and earning nearly 600 pounds in revenue.

Picnic trains continued to run through the mid 1920's and early 1930's. A majority of these trains ran as charters for specific groups such as the VRI, ANA, combined school groups, various church groups, and tennis clubs.

Not all the trains used conventional passenger carriages. It appears many used open wagons fitted with bench seats and with a tarpaulin 'roof'.

(Information from ARE Grampians Tour Notes 2004)


ianc Locomotive Fireman

Ive read about picnic trains to Mt Dryden, theres some note of this at display in the info center at Halls gap. I assumed that the a trip to Mt Dryden would mean getting off at the Fyans Ck stop, as Mt Dryden is a rather prominent hill whose peak is a bout 1.5K from where Fyans Ck 'should' be as from the gradients & curves info. In fact is closer to the stop than Fyans Creek actually is! .. hmm I can feel some more research coming on. IanC


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