APM siding across the Grange Road/Heidelberg Rd

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lunacyfringe Train Controller

Location: Now arriving at... Kensington.

I seem to remember on numerous occasions driving over an intersection where a railway line crossed it and dissapeared into a large factory. now being a 10 year old kid at the time who liked (and still does) live trains and railways i always wanted to know everything about it. can anyone help? it was suburban melbourne but thats all i know.

kthanx.

 
wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria

The APM paper mill in Alphington?
http://www.victorianrailways.net/photogallery/suburb/apml.html

 
wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...

First one I can think of would be near Tottenham, into the Uncle Toby's factory. It's been ripped up since, but I think the fence is still on the angle that the siding came out towards the road.

Wolfpac

 
EvanC Chief Plonker

Location: Bayswater, Victoria

One that springs to mind is the APM siding across the Chandler Highway/Grange Road/Heidelberg Road intersection in Alphington.

The tracks were in place across the intersection until a few years ago, when they were removed and the intersection remade.

Currently: link

In 1966: link

Edit: bugger - Wongm beat me!

 
lunacyfringe Train Controller

Location: Now arriving at... Kensington.

oh wow, you guys are fantastic.

Its the paper place. It always intruiged me. how long was it in use for? i always remember seeing the signal i think. and expecting the 'double decker' to roll out. yeah i was a wacked kid.

 
Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic

I remember going a DERM trip into the siding. It had been raining and the driver hadn't sanded as we rolled downhill going in. Took forever to try and get out!

 
bevans - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

The APM paper mill in Alphington?
http://www.victorianrailways.net/photogallery/suburb/apml.html/quote

wow. I didn't release the line was electrified into the siding across heidelberg road.  I can remember sparks on the siding a few times.

What was the source of the paper traffic?  Was it from/to gippsland?

NOw I see truck after truck going into that mill.

Regards,

Brian

- wongm
 
PE Chief Train Controller

I remember going a DERM trip into the siding. It had been raining and the driver hadn't sanded as we rolled downhill going in. Took forever to try and get out!

- Ballast_Plough

DERMs don't have sanders.

 
penov Chief Commissioner

Location: By the shore of Bass Strait.

When I did a trip to the Fairfield mill about the 1960's it made brown paper and light cardboard out of recycled rubbish. I don't think it was sophisticated enough to make newsprint. The first Australian newsprint was made at Boyer near Burnie in Tassy.

 
angus42 Chief Train Controller

Location: Around Kyneton-Melbourne

The APM paper mill in Alphington?
http://www.victorianrailways.net/photogallery/suburb/apml.html/quote

wow. I didn't release the line was electrified into the siding across heidelberg road.  I can remember sparks on the siding a few times.

What was the source of the paper traffic?  Was it from/to gippsland?

NOw I see truck after truck going into that mill.

- wongm

The traffic (most of it, in my occasional observations, anyway) was brown coal from the Madeley open cut mine at Bacchus Marsh -- I never say anything else there.  For many years the usual motive power in the suburban area (don't know where they changed locos) was a pair of suburban electric locomotives.

- bevans
 
Tripitaka Junior Train Controller

Location: Muswell Hill, London, UK

I remember the goods trains still going through there as a kid in the 1970's.  The traffic lights at the intersection would all switch to red as they went through. We would drive across the Chandler Hwy to visit relatives and had to stop there a couple of times.  I also remember that rickety narrow bridge that crossed the valley before the Eastern Freeway went through - getting off point as usual, but any excuse to share memories..

 
Ben-P19 Chief Commissioner

Location: Greensborough, Vic

Ten years ago, pretty much to the day in fact (I feel old!), I did 2 weeks of work experience at the paper mill with the electricians that work/worked there. I remember asking the electrical engineer who showed me around the mill on my first day how long it had been since trains had entered the site. From memory he reckoned it was about 5 years (it was 1994 or so, so he wasn't too far off the mark).

I only ever remember seeing handfull trains on the siding as a kid in the 80's and early 90's. One glimpsed from a passing Hurstbridge line train, and also the time we were driving along Heidleberg Road when the lights went red and the bells started ringing, and a train appeared. My memory is pretty vague, so I'm not sure what sort of loco or even the direction it or we were headed.

What fascinated me more was the arrangement at Fairfield station, with the goods road looping around the back of the down platform, and having it's own level crossing about 10 metres away from the main line level crossing.

 
Bills_Billboards Chief Commissioner

When the line was electrified into the mill was common to see a L class doing the duties , later years was either a T or P class doing the shunt

Common wagons were VOBX  or VFNX wagons loaded with white paper in cubed form and empty wagons out

Bill

 
bevans - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

Bill, do you recall when the wires were removed?  I still remeber wires being in the "small" yard between the mainline and the road crossing early to mid 1990's.

Regards,

Brian

 
perks Chief Train Controller

Location: Sunny Vic

I know the overhead was gone when the rail came out in 2003-2004. A fair bit of the rail ended up at YVTR, the 2/3 road extension is all 94lb from their and most of our spare rail pile is whats left, and the few steel sleepers have ended up in the slab at the back of the workshops.

 
bevans - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

I moved into the area during the 1990's when you could still afford to buy a house around there and I cannot remember the wires ever being there.

Regards,

Brian

 
trolleybusracer Deputy Commissioner

Location: St Albans Sydenham Watergardens Line

Sorry to bring up a old Thread but when the train was to go thru did all the lights go red? cause i see no booms there

 
37M Banned

Location: Banned

Sorry to bring up a old Thread but when the train was to go thru did all the lights go red? cause i see no booms there

- trolleybusracer

In the 60's there were flashing lights and a bell , around the early 70's these were replaced when trafic signals were intalled along with 2 bells on white posts .

The trafic signal would turn red in all directions and the bells would activate in the rare event of a train opperating through the intersection.

The bells were removed some years back and the rails were ripped up a year or two ago.

 
drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle

Were the signals installed when Grange Road was deviated slightly to meet Chandler Highway?

 
37M Banned

Location: Banned

Were the signals installed when Grange Road was deviated slightly to meet Chandler Highway?

- drwaddles

Sorry , I cant remember the road alteration

Chandler Hwy had a stop or giveway sign at Heidelberg Rd before traffic lights were installed , its hard to imagine that now .

 
wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria

Were the signals installed when Grange Road was deviated slightly to meet Chandler Highway?

- drwaddles



'Newsrail' November 1994 page 328 (an extract of the article is here) has an aerial photo of the plant in 1952 - the staggered junction was in existence then. The 1966 'Melway' shows a stager as well. 'The Outer Circle' by David Beardsell has a photo dated 1977 of the intersection, and it has the traffic lights.

An 11 year period. Smile

 
drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle

Thanks wongm Very Happy

 

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