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| TE2815 |
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:53 pm |
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To quote the Terri Clark song GIRLS LIE TOO  | |
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| xxxxlbear |
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:54 am |
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Thats what I am thinking, Invictius.
-Girl is old off by TO for something simple [like feet on seat].
-Girl doesn't like it.
-Girl cries wolf
[Oh woe to me, he assaulted me, he made a pass at me, he asked me naughty questions].
-Everyone believes defenseless naive 15 year old girl over a TO.
-TO gets the full wrath of society and is suspended or sacked.
Why I have suspicions?
1. TO's are supposed to be in teams of 2 upwards [even in Sydney I presume] so where were the TO-in-questions partners at the time?
I'd find it hard to believe that the TOs partners would have turned a blind eye to what was being said if indeed what was claimed to have been said by the TO was true.
2. He wanted to take her home while on duty????? Refer to point 1 again regarding teams.
Of course he may be guilty as claimed, but I await to hear his side before believing every word she said. | |
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| invictius |
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:17 am |
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*sniffs*
Well I can smell 2 things here...
1) daily ra... erm, telegraph
2)15 y/o girl telling a story - I've heard some whoppers in my time from girls around this age, and a lot of them follow something along these lines, claim of abuse by someone in a position of authority... | |
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| xxxxlbear |
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:28 am |
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I'd like to hear the other party's version of the story.
Whenever something like this makes the news, it is often allegations from the victim [accusor] that get the publicity, not the accused. | |
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| nickcosta |
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:32 am |
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remember this story did come from the daily tragic...
if 10% of it were true id be suprised
probably why RailCorp never acted on it!
thats why the tragic beefed it up a little | |
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| supertj |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:16 pm |
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It was not to get more posts, just saying he should have submitted it as a news item. I don't even now how many posts I have. But at least Supertj improved the link.
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I thought i'd post it here in News as people usually like to express their different point of views on certain issues. This issue in particular would be better here than in the news section as many people dont view it there.
Cheers | |
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| Ron_D |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:11 pm |
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| CaseyJones wrote: | | Ron_D wrote: | | Supertj, why not submit this as news, or better still read the SMH! |
Post count | It was not to get more posts, just saying he should have submitted it as a news item. I don't even now how many posts I have. But at least Supertj improved the link. | |
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| Blackadder |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:12 pm |
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Can't help but wonder how "wide spread" the problems are, the TOs that I have come across have been polite and courteous  | |
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| CaseyJones |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:59 pm |
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| Ron_D wrote: | | Supertj, why not submit this as news, or better still read the SMH! |
Post count | |
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| SafetyOfficer |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:57 pm |
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| Simes_mk2 wrote: |
| Quote: | children of that age these days look much older than the really are, and in some cases lie about their age to get attention (not to mention getting in to pubs/clubs ect)
The TO should not have engaged in a personal conversation with the teenager, but he may have been lead on. |
but if he's older than 27 -29 it's just wrong, anyone heard of the word professionalism??? |
you wont find any arguments here | |
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| Simes_mk2 |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:36 pm |
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Have some of you thought that railcorp get the applicants they get because of the type of work it is and what it pays (i.e you get more if you work unsocialable hours) to someone fresh off the boat, it's good money and a secure job..
Also the offical unemployment rate is very low
Take a walk around St George or the Bankstown region, you'll see a similar reflection of the job ad someone quoted
On the subject of the story, if the guy in question is in his early to mid 20's, late teens even. I'd believe sentiments like this
| Quote: | children of that age these days look much older than the really are, and in some cases lie about their age to get attention (not to mention getting in to pubs/clubs ect)
The TO should not have engaged in a personal conversation with the teenager, but he may have been lead on. |
but if he's older than 27 -29 it's just wrong, anyone heard of the word professionalism??? | |
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| TE2815 |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:23 pm |
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| KRviator wrote: | | I realise there needs to be EEO and all that, but to say that there are that many unsuitable Australians for the position that they need to have a class of 75% non-Australian's is absurd. | Reverse discrimination is alive and well within RailCorp and most government departments. In these politically correct days to be seen to be doing the right thing by everybody they have gone too far the other way.
As SafetyOfficer says I will stop there and say no more
Some of you on here who know me, know what I could say but won't | |
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| SafetyOfficer |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:54 am |
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Interesting, but im not convinced..... children of that age these days look much older than the really are, and in some cases lie about their age to get attention (not to mention getting in to pubs/clubs ect)
The TO should not have engaged in a personal conversation with the teenager, but he may have been lead on.
ill end it their before i start a war with all the fathers on this forum! | |
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| KRviator |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:55 am |
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Far be it from me to be rascist, but when you put bean counters in managerial positions, and people from a non-english speaking background where bullying and intimidation of subordinates and women is the norm into the equation then this is giong to happen. (I dont mean "this" as in the incident in the paper, but rather the culture of bullying)
When you look at the RailCorp positions available website and there is a photo of 8 staff, only two of which are obviously of Australian descent, I believe there is something seriously wrong with the way RailCorp runs things. I realise there needs to be EEO and all that, but to say that there are that many unsuitable Australians for the position that they need to have a class of 75% non-Australian's is absurd.
Travel on any CityRail train and note the percentage of Guards who have such accented English language skills that they are difficult, if not impossible to understand. It is not rascism to refuse to employ someone who can not speak clear, intelligible English, especially where they are in a customer relations role or a safety-critical position such as a Guard.
I am not rascist, though my comments seem as such, I just get annoyed that RailCorp seems to place too much emphasis on EEO and cultural awareness than getting someone who can do the job properly and safely.
Cheers,
Rob. | |
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| Ron_D |
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:48 am |
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| Supertj, why not submit this as news, or better still read the SMH! | |
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