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tasrail2100
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Joined: Jul 24, 2004 Last Visited: Nov 21, 2008 Location: Brisbane, Queensland.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:50 pm
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ha ha ha ha, yes he is good isn't he
u can start your own gallery on RP2, but thats ok mate i will let you do it how you wish.
also hopefully by this time tomorrow i will have some pics of my own... so long as they bring the MKAs out of the shadows, and so long as g remembers to let me know that they have done so...
Last edited by tasrail2100 on Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:51 pm; edited 1 time in total
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tasrail
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tasrail2100
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:32 am
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nice photos, i am kicking myself that i didn't drive to burnie yesterday now. oh well i will just hafta take osme pics when they are towed to launceston tomorrow.
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Australind
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:33 pm
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Great shots, the front of those locos look simalar to the EL's.
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tasrail2100
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:10 pm
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the entire loco was originally going to be like an EL, ie. cab width the whole way down, but they ran out of money or whatever so that never happened.
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:46 pm
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I tell you what these locos are more ugly than 2100.The cab front is just flat not like the ELs.What i mean is that the ELs have a small angle while our 2100 has a more angle.
The pics don't do justice to the cab.
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tasrail2100
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:13 am
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oi! 2100 is the best looking loco in the state simply becuase it is the only one that doesn't look like it was designed 100 years ago
alright well i am off to have a shower and head over to burnie now, the MKA's are on the move very soon.
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tasrail2100
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:49 pm
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hey all.
went down this morning and had a squiz, lookin very shiny indeed they were, especially when lined up against 2100 which fronted up to take them to launceston.
i think they look a bit funny, but that should hopefully change when they have their cowcatchers fitted...
here is a pic from my day...
*ok i am having no luck with images in forums lately, it doesn't seem to be workin like it used to. you can find the pictures in my gallery in the tasmania section.
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:15 pm
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So thats why i heard 2100 this morning.I thought the paper train was having problems cause i heard 2101 too.
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U25B
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:08 pm
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You probably saw it on another thread but I saw one of these machines painted for PN-T no. 2138 when I was in Launceston last thurs.24-02-05. I thought it looked alright-definately something different. You guys whinge about how ugly some locos are, I reckon 2101 is the crankiest looking critter I have seen for a while(but I love it). Just be thankful that not everything has a flat face like the North Island. Eg. NR G BL 422 81 N ALF 442 82 90 85 86 80 PN Q S(WAGR) 2800 4000 V 700 ........
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benscaro
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:18 pm
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I think the main problem people have accepting the ZP and MKA's looks is just that the design is unusual.
It is not an inherently aesthetically displeasing layout for a loco, and if the ZP had an EL nose as originally hoped for [!] it would have been quite a handsome engine.
But there have been very few engines with the sloped nose design, full stop, and even fewer with that sort of cab design added to a hood.
Here's a 1950s example from GE, in the Philippines:
http://www.locopage.net/pr-2000.jpg
Here's a modern Indonesian version:
http://www.locopage.net/cc20304.jpg
I think once the MKAs are doing the rounds in the PNT livery - a scheme which has definitely improved the ZR's looks - they will start to turn a few heads.
And if their reliability improves, they will end up being firm favourites. A distinct change from all those flat faces on the mainland.
My only regret with the PNT scheme is that I would like to have seen the ZP make it into ATN maroon/yellow as depicted on the Tassteamalive site. That is a scheme that would have improved this loco's appearance considerably.
Ben
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U25B
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:31 am
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Have the MKAs come out to play yet? I got my photos back (35mm) and the shot of 2138 is pretty smeggy. Photo quality is ok but location and circumstances have made for a pretty average shot.If anyone is interested I will get it scanned and put it on this forum(unless it is running around and you have all seen it!).
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:07 am
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Put the pic up cause i haven't seen one yet!. I reckon they will be on trials around Launceston, most likely the Bell Bay line. They think they would make only 3 Burnie-Hobart trips before they stay here in Burnie to run the Melba line trains
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U25B
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:32 pm
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Nice pics mate.I still don't know why its called 2138
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