EDI/Bombardier Electric Multiple Unit(s) for Transperth

 
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
Do we know when the B set will be taking over the Clarkson line for good? They must have enough to do the whole line.

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  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Here's a photo of Pacific National Queesland's PN 008 with Transperth's EMU 69 sitting in the background at EDI Rail.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=112753


Another of just EMU 69

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=112757
  warailways Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
Great Photos
  Mike_in_the_west Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA
Nice shot Michael!

What the folk at EDI need to do for you Queensland gunzels is stable a PN, A 4000 and a B Set all right next to each other.  Imagine that for a shot!  Surprised
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
What the folk at EDI need to do for you Queensland gunzels is stable a PN, A 4000 and a B Set all right next to each other.  Imagine that for a shot!  Surprised
"Mike_in_the_west"


Has been done in the past.  I just wasn't there Sad

I have a shot of PN 006 and QR 4048 next to each other outside EDI ...

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=98374
  warailways Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
What i want to see is when all the B sets and new Prossies and Avonlink enter full service is that they line all types of the PTAs which would be MA1862, Prospector, Australind, Avonlink, A series EMU, B series EMU all side by side at the Perth Rail Yard and it would be a spectacular Sight for a photo shoot.
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Are A Sets and B Sets compatible with each other?  Could they be placed in revenue service?
  warailways Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
Yes both A&B EMU sets are compatible with each other but the PTA do not operate them together in a Consist. By the way A series EMU sets have now been in revenue service for nearly 15years and are two car sets which are coupled to make four car and six car sets.
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
I imagine you're able to couple multiple sets up to a maximum of four.
  warailways Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
What generation of EMUs are you Talking about As or Bs. If you want to see some pics of EMUs in Perth why dont you visit my website which is on my signiture below.
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Here in Queensland, our Multiple Units can be coupled to a maximum number of four sets.  As Walkers/EDI have produced the MU's for both Queensland and Western Australia, I thought the same would apply in WA.

Do the A Sets comprise of two Driver Motor Carriages or One Driver Motor and one Driver Trailer?
  Mike_in_the_west Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA
I heard A's and B's are not compatable due to the different braking systems and other electrical communication systems??

The A's can run as a 2 car, 4 car or 6 car set.  6 car sets are only used between West Leederville and Perth for the Footy Specials.

With the traction motors on the A.  One of the cars (AEA I think) has 4 traction motors while the AEB car has only 2 traction motors.  Perhaps Freddo could correct me?
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
[quote="Mike_in_the_west"]I heard A's and B's are not compatable due to the different braking systems and other electrical communication systems??

The A's can run as a 2 car, 4 car or 6 car set. 6 car sets are only used between West Leederville and Perth for the Footy Specials.

With the traction motors on the A. One of the cars (AEA I think) has 4 traction motors while the AEB car has only 2 traction motors. Perhaps Freddo could correct me?[/quote]
[b]
I thought that may be the case ...

AEA [A] 2 x Traction Motors [B] 2 x Traction Motors + AEB [B] 2 x Traction Motors [A] No Traction Motors

I'm dragging out my Fastrak EMU Specification Sheet as we speak, and you're correct. The AEB Car (3xx) has one powered bogie and one non-powered bogie.

The B Series EMU's should have 8 Traction Motors -
BEA (4xx) [A] 2 x Traction Motors [b] 2 x Traction Motors + BET (6xx) [A] No Traction Motors [B] No Traction Motors + BEB (5xx) [B] 2 x Traction Motors [A] 2 x Traction Motors

They're two motor cars with a trailer car in the middle of the consist.

PS. [A] = A end of carriage, [B] - B end of carriage[/b]
  The Trans-Australian Locomotive Fireman

Location: Perth
The "A" and "B" srts are not compatible for normal service as they will not "talk" to each other electrically. There is a vast difference in traction and braking (the "A" series not being regenerative")control.

However in an emergency they can couple up and have a through service airbrake to push or pull the other out of a failure situation.
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Get those camera's ready again guys!  EMU 69 (PURD #21) has departed in Maryborough West, QLD in the consist of an Express Freight Train.  It should arrive in Perth, WA in the consist of #WP2 Steel Train on Wednesday, 3 August, 2005.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=112757

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  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Just a short note to let you know that Matt and I sighted ...

- EMU 70 in the EDI Testing Shed
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- EMU 71 outside EDI (BET 671 undergoing water seal testing, BEA 471 parked near PN 013)
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- EMU 72 (BEA 472) inside the EDI Workshop (I think)
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
Gret photos there Michaelj, Set 69 arrived this morning from what I heard.
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown

Bombardier Receives a $185-Million Order for Electric Multiple Units in Australia
Saturday, May 11, 2002 14:47

Bombardier Transportation and Australian train manufacturer EDI-Rail are pleased to announce that their joint venture received an order from the Western Australian Government to build 31 three-car electric commuter trains for the southern leg of the Perth Urban Rail Development (PURD) project. The contract, valued at $372 million Cdn ($437 million Australian), includes 15 years of maintenance and the construction of a maintenance and stabling facility. Bombardier Transportation’s share of the contract is approximately $185 million Cdn ($218 million Australian), including $102 million Cdn ($120 million Australian) for the vehicles and approximately $84 million ($99 million Australian) for maintenance and the construction of a maintenance facility. Deliveries are scheduled to start in mid-2004, with the last set delivered in 2006.

Bombardier Transportation’s scope is to design the railcars and supply propulsion and electrical systems. EDI-Rail will be supplying bodyshells and bogies. Testing and commissioning will be carried out by both companies as part of the joint venture. Assembly will be carried out at the Bombardier Transportation – EDI-Rail joint venture plant in Maryborough, Queensland. Propulsion equipment will be manufactured at Bombardier Transportation’s plant in Västerås, Sweden.

The tender includes an option for the manufacture and maintenance of 10 additional three-car units. These state-of-the-art electrical multiple units (EMUs), designed in Australia with modular stainless steel construction, will travel at 130 km/h and have a seated capacity of 236 passengers. Between 1990 and 1998, 48 two-car sets of an earlier generation of these vehicles were produced at the joint venture’s Australian facilities, and delivered to the Western Australian Government Railways Commission (WAGR).

“These trains will provide the Western Australian public with state-of-the-art commuter transport. We are pleased that the manufacture of these vehicles will be carried out within Australia with significant local content,” says Dan Osborne, Chief Country Representative of Bombardier Transportation in Australia.

Jules Pleau, Vice President, Bombardier International, adds that “this new order, combined with the Vlocity trains currently in production in Victoria, reinforces Bombardier’s overall presence in Australia and strengthens Bombardier Transportation’s ability to pursue other activities in the region.”

In addition to the joint venture facility, Bombardier Transportation has a plant in Dandenong, where trains and trams have been built for Australian railways for over 25 years. Bombardier Transportation, which employs over 200 people in Australia, is currently working on manufacturing or service contracts in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria.

Bombardier Transportation is the global leader in the rail equipment, manufacturing and servicing industry. Its wide range of products includes passenger rail cars and complete rail transportation systems. It also manufactures locomotives, freight cars, propulsion & controls and provides signalling equipment and systems.

Bombardier Inc., a diversified manufacturing and services company, is a world leading manufacturer of business jets, regional aircraft, rail transportation equipment and motorized recreational products. It also provides financial services and asset management in business areas aligned with its core expertise. Headquartered in Montréal, Canada, the Corporation has a workforce of some 80,000 people in 24 countries throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia-Pacific. Its revenues for the fiscal year ended Jan. 31, 2002 stood at $21.6 billion Cdn. Bombardier trades on the Toronto, Brussels and Frankfurt stock exchanges (BBD, BOM and BBDd.F).
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  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Saw EMU 70 sitting outside EDI on Sunday ...
  warailways Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
Interesting.
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
Saw EMU 70 sitting outside EDI on Sunday ...
"MichaelJ"


Whens that due to leave for WA?
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Saw EMU 70 sitting outside EDI on Sunday ...
"MichaelJ"


Whens that due to leave for WA?
"Australind"


It is probably due to depart QLD for WA soon.  I will tell you when it's heading south/west.
  warailways Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
What sets are they building at EDI QLD at the moment?
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
I have seen EMU 70 - 72.  EMU 73 is probably a work in progress somewhere in the workshops too!
  Steph Chief Train Controller

How long does it take to make a B set?

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