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EDI/Bombardier Electric Multiple Unit(s) for QR

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3foot6 Minister for Railways   Joined: Dec 22, 2004
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:12 am
NOTE: SMU/IMU are Electric Multiple Units

downeredi.com.au wrote:

Downer EDI and Bombardier to supply rail cars to Queensland Rail under contract valued at $212M
Tuesday, 2 November 2004


Downer EDI Limited (Downer EDI) today announced that its Rail division, EDI Rail, in joint venture with Bombardier Transportation (Australia) Pty Limited, has received an order from Queensland Rail (QR) for the supply of 24 three-car sets, comprised of 16 Interurban Multiple Unit (IMU) trains for the Brisbane to Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast rail services and a further 8 Suburban Multiple Unit (SMU) trains for the Brisbane suburban network.

Advice to the market coincides with this morning's announcement in Brisbane of the new contract by the Premier of Queensland, Peter Beattie, and Queensland Minister for Transport and Main Roads, Paul Lucas.

The trains will be supplied by EDI Rail's joint venture with Bombardier at EDI Rail's Maryborough facilities in Queensland, with delivery planned for the period November 2006 to November 2008. The value of the contract is approximately $212 million (EDI Rail share $113 million).

Chief Executive Officer of EDI Rail, Guy Wannop, said the order continues EDI Rail's and the joint venture's long and successful association with QR. "Over the years, all of QR's passenger rail car fleet, including the high tech and successful Cairns Tilt Train, have been built at EDI Rail's Maryborough facilities," Mr Wannop said.

"Winning the new work follows a history and a platform of successful collaboration established with QR, which over the years has evolved to provide vehicles that suit the particular requirements of QR and their rail infrastructure. This enables a low risk development path for the design and supply of the trains," he said.

"The new contract also provides continuity of employment for the skilled labour force we have in Maryborough and allows us to continue our training and skills development commitments in the Maryborough region," Mr Wannop said.

The new order continues EDI Rail's successful association with Bombardier in the supply of rail passenger vehicles from Maryborough. The joint venture is currently building 31 trains (three-car sets) for the Western Australian Government's new Perth Metro Rail program. The first of these three-car sets entered service in Perth on time and on budget in early October 2004.

EDI Rail is Australia's leading rollingstock provider with comprehensive design, manufacture, maintenance and refurbishment capability. Downer EDI is an Australian top-150 company, which provides comprehensive engineering and infrastructure management services to the public and private transport, energy, communications and resources sectors in Australia, New Zealand and Asia.



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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:19 am
iqr.com.au wrote:

QR Signs $212m Train Supply Deal
11 November 2004


An EDI Rail and Bombardier Transportation joint venture has secured a $212m contract to supply trains for the Queensland Rail (QR) passenger fleet.

QR has ordered 24 three-car sets under a four-year contract with delivery planned from November 2006 to November 2008.

The order consists of 16 interurban multiple unit trains for the Brisbane to Sunshine Coast services and eight suburban multiple units for the Brisbane suburban network.

They will be supplied through EDI Rail’s Maryborough workshops – which also manufactured the Cairns tilt train.

EDI Rail chief executive Guy Wannop said the order would continue the company’s long association with QR. “Winning the new work follows a history and a platform of successful collaboration established with QR, which over the years has evolved to provide vehicles that suit the particular requirements of QR and their rail infrastructure.” Mr Wannop said.

“This enables a low risk development path for the design and supply of trains.”

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie said the carriage order is part of preparations to meet the expected 1m population increase forecast for southeast Queensland by 2026.

The government is investing an extra $1b over four years in services and infrastructure for the CityTrain network in the region, Mr Beattie said.

The EDI Bombardier joint venture is already supplying similar trains in a supply contract with the Western Australian Government’s New Metrorail project. The first sets entered service in October.


16 x 3-Car IMU will be constructed first.
- Running numbers 161 - 176

8 x 3-Car SMU will be constructed at the conclusion of IMU.
- Running numbers 261 - 268



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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:20 am
railway-technology.com wrote:

Extract sourced from ...
Bombardier Receives a $185-Million Order for Electric Multiple Units in Australia
Saturday, May 11, 2002 14:47


Bombardier Transportation’s scope is to design the railcars and supply propulsion and electrical systems. EDI-Rail will be supplying bodyshells and bogies. Testing and commissioning will be carried out by both companies as part of the joint venture. Assembly will be carried out at the Bombardier Transportation – EDI-Rail joint venture plant in Maryborough, Queensland. Propulsion equipment will be manufactured at Bombardier Transportation’s plant in Västerås, Sweden.


The successful joint venture established in the manufacture of 31 3-Car EMU's for Transperth will continue in the construction of 16 3-Car IMU and 8 3-Car SMU for QR.

The entire article can be found in the EDI/Bombardier Electric Multiple Unit(s) thread of the Western Australia forum.
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-p309971.htm#309971



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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:21 am
wonder if the new IMU/SMUs will differ slightly again. MK1 and MK2 differed with the roof mounted air condition units, 2 for the MK1s and 1 for the MK2 in the centre.

I guess it'll be good, I still would prefer to see the diesels return. Razz

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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:03 am
Colhad wrote:
Wonder if the new IMU/SMUs will differ slightly again?


http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=112757

They will be almost identical to Transperth's B Series EMUs. In the artists' impression I noticed that the marker lights and head lights were repositioned.

Just over a year now (November 2006) until IMU 161 is due to be delivered! Very Happy



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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:07 am
Colhad wrote:
wonder if the new IMU/SMUs will differ slightly again. MK1 and MK2 differed with the roof mounted air condition units, 2 for the MK1s and 1 for the MK2 in the centre.

I guess it'll be good, I still would prefer to see the diesels return. Razz

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Good chance eletronically or mechanically they will be slightly differ cater for using newer version of the equipments.
 
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:36 pm
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NOTE: SMU/IMU are Electric Multiple Units


Sorry to nitpick, but who said they weren't?

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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:43 pm
bigj wrote:
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NOTE: SMU/IMU are Electric Multiple Units


Sorry to nitpick, but who said they weren't?

Justin


Just thought I would get in first before someone started an arguement ...
"They're not going to be EMUs, they're SMUs and IMUs"

Won't mention any names ... Very Happy



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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:46 pm
The max speed on the IMU is 130km/ph. Not 140 like the ones running now.
The doors are different spacing so they will not line up with the marks at Central.
 
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:47 pm
MichaelJ wrote:
bigj wrote:
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NOTE: SMU/IMU are Electric Multiple Units


Sorry to nitpick, but who said they weren't?

Justin


Just thought I would get in first before someone started an arguement ...
"They're not going to be EMUs, they're SMUs and IMUs"

Won't mention any names ... Very Happy


Definitly not me, because I have read certain forms from QR saying about preping up the trains in the morning "Walk over to EMU stabling yard. Start up train. Check for any problems etc"



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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:20 pm
TWINTURBOSkyline wrote:
MichaelJ wrote:
bigj wrote:
Quote:
NOTE: SMU/IMU are Electric Multiple Units


Sorry to nitpick, but who said they weren't?

Justin


Just thought I would get in first before someone started an arguement ...
"They're not going to be EMUs, they're SMUs and IMUs"

Won't mention any names ... Very Happy


Definitly not me, because I have read certain forms from QR saying about preping up the trains in the morning "Walk over to EMU stabling yard. Start up train. Check for any problems etc"


And the CTT and railmotors are DMUs... Smile
 
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:07 pm
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And the CTT and railmotors are DMUs... Smile


The Diesel Tilt Train is not a diesel multiple unit. It has two light weight power cars at each end of the train, one pushing the other pulling.

I thought one would have known this ...

Don't believe me? Have a look at a recent photo of the train (the Power Car is on the lead) Wink
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=114175



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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:40 pm
MichaelJ wrote:
The Diesel Tilt Train is not a diesel multiple unit. It has two light weight power cars at each end of the train, one pushing the other pulling.

Michael,

Doh! You got me on a technicality! Smile

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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:29 am
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MichaelJ wrote:
The Diesel Tilt Train is not a diesel multiple unit. It has two light weight power cars at each end of the train, one pushing the other pulling.

Michael,

Doh! You got me on a technicality! Smile

Graham R


Just a minor one, mate! You can be forgiven for that!

Each Power Car (DTD54xx) has two 1350kW (1810HP) MTU Engines. That means each Power Car has 2700kW (3620HP) and the entire train (with two Power Cars) 5400kW (7240HP). The Disabled Sitter Cars (DTP74xx) provide power for the train's auxiliaries.

The Diesel Tilt Train's substandard NSW counterpart, the eXpensive Passenger Train (XPT) only has 2000HP per Power Car (XP20xx), one pushing the other pulling. The trailing Power Car provides power for the train's auxiliaries as well as forward propulsion.

What do you think of the new Transperth EMUs, Graham? They're basically what our new SMU/IMU will look like. Very Happy



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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:00 pm
The Auxiliary power for the CTT is supplied from the power cars. There are 2 alternators in each power car that are linked to the main engines... It's a pretty complex system, but when it's working properly it's pretty bullet proof.
 
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