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Webslave
Minister for Railways
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:20 am
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I'm still not sure that '&' is acceptable. Basically I want to break away from the days of a particular user's love of writing:
"Yes & they are very very very good James & when will they be coming out James & they are very very good "
James Morgan
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4BJ
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:45 am
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| Webslave wrote: | I'm still not sure that '&' is acceptable. Basically I want to break away from the days of a particular user's love of writing:
"Yes & they are very very very good James & when will they be coming out James & they are very very good " |
Don't rub it out just yet. Have a look at the AdMet site www.adelaidemtro.com.au, go to the 'New Timetables from August 21' bit and check out the number of amperdands,
I'm not crazy, M'Lynn, I've just been in a very bad mood for 40 years!
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xxxxlbear
Token Booking Clerk
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:41 am
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| Quote: | | ....and check out the number of amperdands, |
Sorry for being a spelling nazi but, did you mean to type 'ampersand' as that is the correct spelling?
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TheLoadedDog
El Sombrero!
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:37 am
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Maybe he hab a cold.
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4BJ
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:50 pm
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| xxxxlbear wrote: | | Quote: | | ....and check out the number of amperdands, |
Sorry for being a spelling nazi but, did you mean to type 'ampersand' as that is the correct spelling? |
Yes, I did.
| TLD™ wrote: | | Maybe he hab a cold. |
No, I don't.
On the subject of ampersands, I never use them on this forum unless I make reference to a publication where an ampersand is specifically used in the title, such as Rails Through Swamp & Sand. That is how it is written on the front cover, so that is how I make reference to it.
I'm not crazy, M'Lynn, I've just been in a very bad mood for 40 years!
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mjja
Sir Nigel Gresley
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:12 pm
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Can we leave recognized symbols as a "grey area" which will be accepted in reasonable quantities but not if they're over-used?
Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"
Michael Angelico
President, Smart Passengers Inc
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TheLoadedDog
El Sombrero!
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:20 pm
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Ampersands are considered acceptable in titles, and certain other specific usages. They are not supposed to be used in general written English.
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xxxxlbear
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:53 pm
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Having said that, I do use ampersands in any sms's that I do, but in general writing, no I don't use that at all.
I believe the grammatical rules that cover apersands, also now apply to the 'at' symbol. It is acceptable, for obvious reasons, to use @ in email address's, but it is grammatically incorrect to use @ in place of 'at' in general written works such as letters and essays.
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Webslave
Minister for Railways
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:39 pm
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| mjja wrote: | | Can we leave recognized symbols as a "grey area" which will be accepted in reasonable quantities but not if they're over-used? | Yep. My thoughts exactly.
James Morgan
Lead Developer - Railpage Australia™ 2.0
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Tonymercury
Dr Beeching
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:45 am
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| Maikha wrote: | What about banning constant German accented text?
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Gee, you mean I can't have Conrad Veight in the snappy black SS outfit saying-
"You haf relatives in Chermany, No?"
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TheLoadedDog
El Sombrero!
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:46 pm
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| Tonymercury wrote: | Great Questions of our Times Department-
Why do the baddies always have the sexiest uniforms? |
Cool cars too. Some of those 1930s straight 8 beasts with two rear axles kicked no end of Arsch.
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Ron_D
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:07 pm
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I just noticed this thread, what about this for subject headings?
"NEWSFLASH: Costa & Bachelor get sacked", or SYD: Trams to return to CBD? (The SYD part, not the CBD part)
OR what about the American spelling (well it is an American spellchecker ("underused")) eg: favorite, versus favourite, etc, etc,
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mjja
Sir Nigel Gresley
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:32 pm
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Some caps for emphasis (or more correctly, for categorization) should be OK. But TITLES IN ALL CAPS is just like shouting - achieves nothing at all.
Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"
Michael Angelico
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Mickelaar
The Ghost of George Stephenson
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:55 pm
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Obviously a fine line needs to be drawn, as mods & admin dont want to be seen as going overboard issuing warning fur using "&" instead of "and" ETC. As mods will know, upholding the site ethics and requirements & responsibilities will vary from user to user. But i feel pulling something up that has complete caps in a title, or a post that meerely has "yay" or is nothing but sms talk, then fair enough.... if a post contains a minimal ammount, then that should be fair enough.
But my question is, what is a considerable ammount??? 20%, 50%???
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Your friend in time
Mick
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michaelgreenhill
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:54 pm
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In the end it comes down to each individual moderators opinion. If one moderator thinks it needs changing to lowercase, they'll do it.
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