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SM247 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Cavill Avenue Station
Is there an extant map of the full extent of the Brisbane tramways at their height in the 1960s, before they were closed? Or has somebody created their own? I would very much like to see how far it went.
 
colinw Chief Commissioner

Speaking of trams, my latest glossy brochure from the council includes photos of ADTRANZ EuroTrams.  Looks like the council is getting interested in  light rail again.
 
QRIG Assistant Commissioner

Location: Brisbane, Qld
Currently in the midst of a long term project of tracing an old 1950s-ish map of Brisbane which displays all of the tram lines in Brisbane. Might be able to have one available by the end of the year (at the rate I'm going)
 
i_heart_translink Locomotive Driver

Location: Malvern
I have a very good map of the 1960s tramways in a book called "Brisbane Tramways".

I will look for it since I have it packed away in a box from moving house... and when I find it will scan it in and post it here...

Colin, what brochure is that in?
 
colinw Chief Commissioner

It was a Runcorn Ward specific glossy newsletter put out by Cr Gail Macpherson.  The Labor majority, led by Cr Hinchliffe, wants to put in light rail using surface capacity freed up once the bypass tunnel is in place.  I think they are basically going to stick to the Brisbane Light Rail route from West End / Southbank to Newfarm via the Valley.  Possibly extending up the busways later.
 
colinw Chief Commissioner

I found some more detail.

Go to: c=PC_1779#vision" rel="nofollow">http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:STANDARD:960342658:pc=PC_1779#vision

Then click on the JavaScript link to go to the Brisbane City draft master plan.

Looks like they want a West End to Valley/Newfarm line via Adelaide St, with a new "Adelaide St Bridge" for the LRT and busway, freeing up the Victoria Bridge for general traffic and pedestrians.

Its also interesting to look at the Brisbane City Transport Plan here:
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/plans_and_strategies/documents/transport_plan_strategic_objective1.pdf
Implementation of the Browns Plains/Greenbank CityTrain line is Brisbane City Council policy!

cheers,
Colin
 
Controller Deputy Commissioner

Location: Banjo Country
Now you young 'uns are bringing back memories of times gone by.  Laughing

I loved the trams.....When I first went to Brisbane as a young 16 y.o in 1968, I lived in New Farm and on a yearly salary of $1,769.00 I could only afford to catch a tram on the first week of my fortnightly pay and on the second week, when I had nothing left in the pocket, I used to jump on the tram No . 178 (New Farm Wharf) or # 177 (New Farm Park) and ride it as far as I could before  the conductor came down to the end of the tram (usually The Valley) and then jump off and walk the rest of the way home.  Hey!!! I was only 16 and had stuff all money in the kick, so had to get by as best as I could.   LaughingLaughing

The demise of the trams in Brisbane was the worst decision of the BCC as far as I was concerned.....I remember the electric buses that used to run across the Story Bridge...don't remember how far they went to.

Aaah the "good old days"  Laughing  Anyone here old enough to remember ballroom dancing at Cloudland?????  Those were the days my friend....I wished they would never end  Very Happy
 
inlander Train Controller

Location: Brisbane
The tramway museum at Ferny grove (or possibly the the ARHS nsw bookshop)sells an excellent video (3 hrs long)of the whole system all shot in old 8 mm colout footage. They cover each line and how the operations worked. A system map comes with the video.
There is also plenty of footage of the trolleys which ran from Ballymore to coorparoo/ seven hills/ edward st, and cavendish road.

The best $40.0 you will ever spend.
 
GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Controller you said that trolleybuses ran across the story bridge. I suppose there must have been trolley wire strung across the bridge. This would have been a sight.

I don't suppose that trams traversed the story bridge by any chance.

Also did trams run along oxlade drive New Farm by any chance?

Thanks
Geoffrey
 
2353 Chief Train Controller

Location: Brisvegas
Now you young 'uns are bringing back memories of times gone by.  Laughing

I loved the trams.....

Aaah the "good old days"  Laughing  Anyone here old enough to remember ballroom dancing at Cloudland?????  Those were the days my friend....I wished they would never end  Very Happy
- Controller
I loved the trams too.  I have fond memories of the trams from Salisbury overtaking cars going down the hill from Annerley Junction to the PA as a kid (especially on one of those trams that had window winders).  The 171 bus was never as much fun.

Also remember Cloudland well.  It was one of the few places that still had a great atmosphere - even when empty.  Why I was there when the place was empty (legally) is something I might go into some other time.
 
Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I too am old enough to remember Trams, Trolleybuses and Cloudland. Used to live at Mt Gravatt (1965-1968) and travelled to the City and back most Saturdays by tram. Controller, seems we are the same vintage as I was 16 in 1968 too! Smile
 
beauyboy Chief Train Controller

Location: the Valley
The proposal for trams to replace the buses that run from new farm to West End is a great idea. As a person that lives in New Farm I can tell you that the present bus service is crap, on average it takes 20mins to get from new farm to the city.
 
Controller Deputy Commissioner

Location: Banjo Country
Controller you said that trolleybuses ran across the story bridge. I suppose there must have been trolley wire strung across the bridge. This would have been a sight.

I don't suppose that trams traversed the story bridge by any chance.

Also did trams run along oxlade drive New Farm by any chance?

Thanks
Geoffrey
- GeoffreyHansen


G'day Geoffrey.....no mate only the trolley buses ran across the Story Bridge.....no tracks for the trams.

No - no trams down Oxlade Drive.   No 177 New Farm Park and No. 178 New Farm Wharf ran the same route that the buses that replaced them now run.
 
SM247 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Cavill Avenue Station
The tramway museum at Ferny grove (or possibly the the ARHS nsw bookshop)sells an excellent video (3 hrs long)of the whole system all shot in old 8 mm colout footage. They cover each line and how the operations worked. A system map comes with the video.
There is also plenty of footage of the trolleys which ran from Ballymore to coorparoo/ seven hills/ edward st, and cavendish road.

The best $40.0 you will ever spend.
- A user


Two questions:

1. Where is the tramway museum in relation to Ferny Grove station (walking distance or is a bus required) ?

2. When is it open?
 
qrtrainfan86 Junior Train Controller
 
SM247 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Cavill Avenue Station
Thanks.
 
barryc Chief Train Controller

Location: Waiting for a train to Canungra
Ah yes. Brisbane Trams.

When I was a kid we would very occasionally go further north than Surfers and actually go to Brisbane.

We always knew when we were in Brisbane when we got to Mt Gravatt where the trams started.

In 1966 when I was 15 I went to Brisbane to a school conference held at All Hallows School in Ann Street. Boys from out of town were billeted at the Marist Brothers College at Ashgrove.  I remember waking up in the morning and hearing the hum of traffic, something foreign to a bushie like me.

But the best thing of all (aside of there being lots of girls there) was coming home one night after a group of us went up to the Valley.  I remember travelling on a drop centre tram on one of those incomparable Brisbane May nights.

What a way to travel.

Nineteen years later I lived in Ashgrove for a few months and I wondered how a tram would ever get down Waterworks Road it was so crowded in peak hour.

These days I have a son living at The Gap so I go out that way to see my grand kids.  I can't see trams fitting into the current widened Waterworks Road unless they only ran between midnight and 5am.

Ah, the good old days.
 
Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
In 1966 when I was 15 I went to Brisbane
- barryc

Another one around my vintage Smile I was 15 in 1967!
 
Controller Deputy Commissioner

Location: Banjo Country
In 1966 when I was 15 I went to Brisbane
- barryc

Another one around my vintage Smile I was 15 in 1967!
- Graham4405




You mob of OLD farts  LaughingWink
 
beastjim Chief Commissioner

Location: Sitting next to colinw, waiting for a train to Greenbank.
Ah yes. Brisbane Trams.

When I was a kid we would very occasionally go further north than Surfers and actually go to Brisbane.

We always knew when we were in Brisbane when we got to Mt Gravatt where the trams started.

In 1966 when I was 15 I went to Brisbane to a school conference held at All Hallows School in Ann Street. Boys from out of town were billeted at the Marist Brothers College at Ashgrove.  I remember waking up in the morning and hearing the hum of traffic, something foreign to a bushie like me.

But the best thing of all (aside of there being lots of girls there) was coming home one night after a group of us went up to the Valley.  I remember travelling on a drop centre tram on one of those incomparable Brisbane May nights.

What a way to travel.

Nineteen years later I lived in Ashgrove for a few months and I wondered how a tram would ever get down Waterworks Road it was so crowded in peak hour.

These days I have a son living at The Gap so I go out that way to see my grand kids.  I can't see trams fitting into the current widened Waterworks Road unless they only ran between midnight and 5am.

Ah, the good old days.
- barryc


Yeah living in the hole between the 3 mountains that is The Gap. I would agree i don't think trams would go very well at all down waterworks road. There are bends that are barely wide enough for 2 buses and 2 cars. Im almost surprised that there hasn't been many if any crashes on some sections. Plus trams/LR wouldn't be able to swerve around the bicycles.

I think my post might bring down the average age of the posters in this thread.
 
mbrowne1045 Mr Hella

Location: Waiting to jump on the bandwagon to Greenbank
As will this one Very Happy
 

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