Connex Introduces Rail Enthusiast Permits

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Webslave - Administrator Site Admin

Location: Altona, Melbourne
Hi Folks,

I just happened to be looking over the Connex Website when I noticed a new section for "Rail Enthusiast Permits".

http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/help_film/index.asp

The gist of it is that the new system allows an amateur photographer to apply for a three-month "Rail Enthusiasts Photography Permit - Suburban Stations" which will allow him or her to take photographs of trains at any Connex station.

However, the permit does not apply at a number of nominated major stations. These stations are: Flinders Street, Spencer Street, North Melbourne, Richmond, South Yarra, Caulfield, Camberwell, Footscray, Clifton Hill, Box Hill, Dandenong and Ringwood.

A specific permit is required for each station with this Rail Enthusiasts Photography Permit - Major Stations valid for one week at a time.

Note that photography is still banned outright in the loop.  Also, Spencer Street Station requires a separate pass from the Spencer Street Station Authority.

The form for stations not listed as "Major" is here (PDF):
http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/help_film/PDF/application_suburban_station.pdf

And the "Major" one is here (PDF):
http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/help_film/PDF/application_major_station.pdf
 
standard_gauge Dr Beeching

Location: Outside the toilet, waiting for Della Bosca to come out !!
Hi Folks,


However, the permit does not apply at a number of nominated major stations. These stations are:

Flinders Street,
- Webslave


Without taking picture at Flinder Street, might as well stop stop gunzelling.


Spencer Street, note that photography is still banned outright in the loop.  Also, Spencer Street Station requires a separate pass from the Spencer Street Station Authority.
- Webslave


Can't go gunzelling without Spencer Street too..(just the Connex part or the whole thing?)


Caulfield, Camberwell, Footscray, Clifton Hill
- Webslave


Can't go gunzelling without photograph at these stations



North Mebourne
- Webslave


Heh....Railfan platform is just around the corner...

I don't think it's a good deal...I felt the door shut 3/4 way for railfan already
 
joffie Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
What the?

Cannot take photos at Ringwood, North Melbourne ect.  I dont think anyone would bother to stop you considering there are not many staff there anyway.

Anyway, time to look at the form.
 
wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
A specific permit is required for each station with this Rail Enthusiasts Photography Permit - Major Stations valid for one week at a time.
- A user


If everyone here went to the Connex offices every week for a new permit, wouldn't they get sick of it after a while? All that paperwork  Mad
 
fast01 BUTTSCRATCHER!

Location: Somewhere your not.
Lets get 100 or so of us, go down to Flinders St, and give them a hell of a lot of paperwork Twisted Evil
 
standard_gauge Dr Beeching

Location: Outside the toilet, waiting for Della Bosca to come out !!
A specific permit is required for each station with this Rail Enthusiasts Photography Permit - Major Stations valid for one week at a time.
- A user


If everyone here went to the Connex offices every week for a new permit, wouldn't they get sick of it after a while? All that paperwork  Mad
- wongm


Let's the whole point Smile once they sick of it, they will just open it up to everyone Smile
 
wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Noticed this in the application:

1. This permit authorises you to take still photographs only. It is intended enthusiasts to allow them to photograph trains from station platforms publicly accessible areas at Connex’s stations. It does not authorise photograph station concourse or ticketing areas, sidings, maintenance or any other facility as the main subject of the photograph.
- A user

No pics of infrastructure?

It generally takes one to two weeks to issue a permit.
- A user

Shocked

Just walk outside the staion, and lean over the fence for photos instead...
 
DavidB - Moderator Site Admin

Location: Canberra
A specific permit is required for each station with this Rail Enthusiasts Photography Permit - Major Stations valid for one week at a time.
- A user

If everyone here went to the Connex offices every week for a new permit, wouldn't they get sick of it after a while? All that paperwork  Mad
- wongm

It's worth trying. But I pity the poor person who received all these applications.

I am trying to get written confirmation from the Australian Federal Police of the advice given previously, which may make these permits irrelevant.

Cheers
David
 
Siemens725M Chief Commissioner

Location: Frankston
well i guess its better than the current blanket bans on photography on station platforms...but still would be nice to have at least access to flinders and spencer street in that 3 month period. i dont see the logic behind CHL being classified as a "major station" (and therefore a ban unless you get the other permit), as with CFD and DNG, they arnt THAT busy, even in morning peak, i think FKN honestly gets more patronage than those three.
 
michaelgreenhill - Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
I don't see why people have such a huge issue with getting passes as Spencer St for photography. It takes less than five minutes, on the spot.
 
joffie Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
A specific permit is required for each station with this Rail Enthusiasts Photography Permit - Major Stations valid for one week at a time.
- A user

If everyone here went to the Connex offices every week for a new permit, wouldn't they get sick of it after a while? All that paperwork  Mad
- wongm

It's worth trying. But I pity the poor person who received all these applications.

I am trying to get written confirmation from the Australian Federal Police of the advice given previously, which may make these permits irrelevant.

Cheers
David
- DavidB


Good work
There ought to be a loophole in the law somewhere.  Photo's are not illegal as far as i know.
 
DavidB - Moderator Site Admin

Location: Canberra
There ought to be a loophole in the law somewhere.  Photo's are not illegal as far as i know.
- joffie

That's exactly the point. There is no law banning photography anywhere in Australia other than military establishments. No need to find a loophole.

Cheers
David
 
TrainNo815 Chief Commissioner

Location: Thomastown, Melbourne, Australia, Earth
Is anyone still going to apply of a permit?  8)
 
DavidB - Moderator Site Admin

Location: Canberra
Is anyone still going to apply of a permit?  8)
- TrainNo815

I think everybody should. Overwhelm Connex with applications, and submit major station applications on a weekly basis. They'll soon realise what they've got themselves into.

Cheers
David
 
Flagstaff Red Afro

Location: Eaglemont, Hursty line, Melbourne.
Eaglemont is so quiet I don't know who would stop me taking photos, I have taken photos from there at least once a week since the start of the year.

At first i thought hooray for Connex, then I read the article
Here how my POV went downhill:
1. Only applies for three months
2. Doesn't apply for major stations -> separate form -> 1 week -> specific Rolling Eyes
3. Connex ruled out photography at City-Loop stations
4. This quote:
21. Connex will not be responsible for any loss damage or injury that you may suffer that results from photgrahpic activities which do not form part of regular railway travel, at any station or other railway facility, even if undertaken in accordance with this permit
- http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/help_film/PDF/application_major_station.pdf


(I think Connex are mistaking the camera for being some kind of weapon) Smile
 
TrainNo815 Chief Commissioner

Location: Thomastown, Melbourne, Australia, Earth
10. As you may be standing on the platform for some time and in locations where passengers do not usually stop, please do not wear items of clothing that are predominantly red, orange or green. Wearing of clothing in these colours may confuse approaching rail traffic crews with regard to signal aspects.
- A user


Shocked . That's actually interesting...  Twisted Evil
 
fast01 BUTTSCRATCHER!

Location: Somewhere your not.
What an absolute joke this is, i say lets all fill out one of these forms on the same day, send them in on the same day, andsee how much chaos we can achive, and then we'll go back to our normal situation because they won't be able to handle it. Wink
 
hansonator Chief Commissioner

Location: Strathmore, Victoria
i've sent a major station one off, and a suburban one
 
TrainNo815 Chief Commissioner

Location: Thomastown, Melbourne, Australia, Earth
For the sake of annoying them, I'm sending both of them off.
 
wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
(I think Connex are mistaking the camera for being some kind of weapon) Smile
- Flagstaff


Well if you have a SLR with a long lens then it could be... Wink

(but if you are on the station platform, there is no need for an uber-zoom lens...  Razz )
 
EL60 Chief Commissioner

Location: left
Connex should have life permits for us Gunzels as Trains are in our blood
it sucks ya cant take any pics at any of those stations that are mentioned
 
michaelgreenhill - Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Get on a road overbridge. Lean over the fence, while standing outside railway property. They can't do diddly squat then.
 
wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
How do we define the line between what is and is not Connex property? Can we assume it is onlyy the ticketed area that counts?
 
The Met Chief Commissioner

Location: 37.55-S /145.01-E
wonder of google had to apply for one, for all those sat. pics.

how about NASA, constant imagary  Razz

i'll apply soon, if i see need.
 
calt Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Like the rest of us, I'm sending it off tomorrow to cause them more paperwork.

Fight da power~!
 

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