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42101
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:55 am
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Hi wurx. my guesses are 41class over heating and rough riding, 43class mechanicaly hard to work on. 80class just a piece of junk. Also possibly 86class bad frames. Greg g
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wurx
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:50 pm
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TTran: Sorry dude, I can only pay one out of your three, as I really don't know of any issues regarding the 421s & 43s; you were definitely on the right track (smeggy pun fully intentional ) re the engines of the 47s - IIRC they were Caterpillars, and due to some mechanical issue (to do with inefficient radiators ) they had a tendency to catch fire on very hot days; apparently this characteristic didn't endear this class to the crews. Wonder why....
42101: I'll give you the cigar matey as three guesses out of your four fit the criteria (not the 43 class for the reasons explained above).
41 class was definitely one I had in mind; AFAIK they were generally a troublesome loco and it has been said that they spent in excess of 50% of their tenure off the tracks rather than on, as there was always something going wrong with them or needing fixing.
80 class were also a disappointment perhaps because they were underpowered, though it has been suggested that that needn't have been the case if the Garv Mint or the SRA hadn't penny-pinched.
86 class would have also fallen short of expectations (of a longer useful life maybe) if it wasn't for those frames.
I'm surprised that no one read my mind for my other choice: the D58 - if ever a loco fell a good way short of expectations, that'd have to be the one. I think I've remarked before that perhaps if it'd come along a decade previous, there might've been opportunity to debug it; but no one could be bothered as dieselisation was by then in full swing.
If I read your rules aright Clyde-GM, its up to the quizmaster what's considered a correct and acceptable answer as long as there is at least three. Some might think that 42101 gave too many answers, but I think he satisfied the criteria.
42101, up to the podium, matey
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Clyde-GM
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:36 pm
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| wurx wrote: | | If I read your rules aright Clyde-GM, its up to the quizmaster what's considered a correct and acceptable answer as long as there is at least three. Some might think that 42101 gave too many answers, but I think he satisfied the criteria. |
42101 was well entitled to give four answers as he explained each one of them. Of course a guess should be refused if it includes an excessive number of answers, without explaining the reasoning behind each answer. A person is entitled to guess each answer seperately, but the winning guess must contain at least three correct answers. I'll update the rules to make this clear.
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42101
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:50 pm
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Wurx my mind is a blank i cant think of a decent question mate so its back to you sir. Greg g
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CaseyJones
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:43 pm
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| wurx wrote: |
80 class were also a disappointment perhaps because they were underpowered, though it has been suggested that that needn't have been the case if the Garv Mint or the SRA hadn't penny-pinched.
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This is a contentious issue this one. While many people believe that the 80 class locos were a stuff up from the beginning of their lives, it is also worth mentioning that these locos weren't given much of a chance to prove their worth initially in the role they were purchased for.
Publicity material of the day suggested that the 80 class locos were acquired to work coal trains of up to 5000 tonnes in multiples of four... In December 1978, the A.F.U.L.E. served notice on the PTC that crews at Ivanhoe would refuse to work locomotives that were not equipped with cab air conditioning. -Diesel and Electric Locomotives of the NSWGR Vol 2
Although the PTC had little choice than to transfer some of the 80 class locos to the Western Division initially as to avoid an industrial dispute, Western Division locos of the time could have been retro-fitted with air-con to allow the 80s to work the trains they were originally bought for.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of the 80 class-give me an 81 any day, which they do - but I think it is fair to say that these locos performance may have been gauged more accurately on the slower, heavier coal trains, rather than trying to make up lost time on the IP or a superfreighter with their sluggish acceleration.
So the 80s may be a disappointing loco in the eyes of most enginemen and railfans alike, but who knows-if they were kept on the working they were acquired for, they might still be hauling bulk traffic in numbers today.
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Comments made are that of my own, and do not reflect those of organisations I am associated with or have mentioned here
At the end of the day...dude, who gives a smeg? Yes or no?!
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wurx
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:35 am
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| 42101 wrote: | Wurx my mind is a blank i cant think of a decent question mate so its back to you sir. Greg g  | That being the case, I'll take this opportunity of giving a Christmas pressie to all that participate in this thread, by declaring the floor open
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SMR30
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:22 am
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O.K, I'm new to this tread so if I stuff up then I'm sorry.
SUBJECT - Steam Locomotives
3801 - What year did it travel to Perth in WA
SMR 25 - This locomotive made the last 10 class run in regular service in what year
3642 - This locomotive has a top boiler pressure of what?
Thank you & Merry Christmas
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Clyde-GM
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:06 am
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3801 ran to Perth in 1988 on the Bicentennial Train. She arrived in Perth - unassisted - on Thursday, May 5th minus rods on the driver's side. For the bonus point, she that morning had done the left big end, about two miles from Koolyanobbing, while working behind L261.
I'm unsure about SMR25, but I'll say 1989. *waits to be yelled at*
I'd say 3642 had a maximum boiler pressure of 180psi, although there is no red line on her steam gauge. For the bonus point again, the values on her steam gauge are 0, 50, 100, 140, 160, 180, 200, 250 and 300.
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SMR30
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:17 pm
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Good enough Ben.
I was thinking of 1970 for 3801, but 1988 is good.
25 was on October 15 1987
And 3642 top is 160psi.
But since it is Christmas day, I'll hand it over to you. Good Luck.
Cheers Paul.
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Clyde-GM
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:50 pm
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Since it's christmas, and I didn't get all three answers right, I'll declare the floor open. And since I started this quiz, I'll allow SMR30 to get away with doing that.... only because it's christmas.
The pigs when in service with the NSWGR operated at 180psi I believe, which is where that guess came from.
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SMR30
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:10 pm
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| Quote: | | 80class just a piece of junk |
Not everyone hates them, that includes me.
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Clyde-GM
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:06 pm
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Hi All,
Following discussion with several RP members, I've changed the rules to make the whole game more user friendly. The important information is as follows:
1) Up to three questions (with a suggested total of no more than 10 answers requested) may be asked. The rule requiring them to all be of the one subject remains unaltered.
2) It is unreasonable to guess more than one answer per question per attempt if the question only asks for one answer, for example the question is “which is the only streamlined C38 class locomotive to be preserved”. Although, the quizmaster reserves the right to accept up to two answers for a more difficult question than the example.
3) If a question asks for more than one answer, then it's fair only to provide one more answer than required. Thus for "name three NSWGR/SRA locos that didn't live up to expectations", naming up to four classes of loco would be acceptable, so long as each is explained.
Floor remains open.
Ben.
Last edited by Clyde-GM on Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:33 am; edited 2 times in total
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Blackadder
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:27 pm
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Okay, just a single question pretty Straight forward.
The only Cityrail station to be named after a woman?
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edison
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:18 am
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Two suggestions
1. Shelley, Mary Wollstonecraft
1797–1851, English author; daughter of William Godwin and Mary Wollstonecraft. In 1814 she fell in love with the poet Percy Bysshe Shelley, accompanied him abroad, and after the death of his first wife in 1816 was married to him. Her most notable contribution to literature is her novel of terror, Frankenstein, published in 1818. It is the story of a German student who learns the secret of infusing life into inanimate matter and creates a monster that ultimately destroys him. Included among her other novels are Valperga (1823), The Last Man (1826), and the partly autobiographical Lodore (1835). After Shelley’s death in 1822, she devoted herself to caring for her aged father and educating her only surviving child, Percy Florence Shelley. In 1839–40 she edited her husband’s works.
- Columbia Encyclopedia, 2005
2. Hamilton, Lady Emma - lover of Lord Horatio Nelson
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johnboy
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:54 am
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Number 3: Faulconbridge was named by local resident Sir Henry Parkes, after his mother, Martha Faulconbridge. It was not a town, just a name of the platform to serve Sir Henry Parkes residence. She Henry lived in "Clarinda" which thought would become the local name, but the name of the platform became better known with the passing trade.
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