Old railway lines

 
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
G'day all,

Went for a drive to North Dandalup via Byford, Mundijong and Serpentine
but on my way to Serpentine just out of Mundijong, I past a line on wright road that left the main line but its not in use but the line is still in tact but
they have sealed the road where the line crosses and a signal with 2
heads is still there but isnt working, anyone know where this line goes
or what was it used for? The lines are pretty rusty so it looks like it
hasnt been used in a while.

Cheers
Evan

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  d1565 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Perth
The track you speak of Evan is possibly the old line to Jarrahdale...

Was used for carting Bauxite, i seem to remember reading somewhere in maybe RD or Motive power that this line MIGHT be in line for re-opening but i don't recall when that was, and i may be confusing it with something else.
  Cro_Pavo Junior Train Controller

Location: Midland
That's the old line that use to service the Alcoa Jarrahdale baxuite mine.
The mine opened in 1963 and was closed in 1998. The line was to the Alcoa Kwinana alumina refinery and supplied 168 million tonnes of bauxite over 35 years.
  Mike_in_the_west Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA
Its all in good nick apart from the level crossing.  The tracks have been covered over.
  burt007 Chief Train Controller

Location: On the Road Somewhere...
This has been discussed here some time ago, a year ago I think.

Some have suggested that it would make a great tourist railway with very scenic views all the way up to...............well this is the point. The track stops dead at where the mine used to be, .......and I mean just stops! Shocked

From this point is nothing but re-planted bush land. So it really is a section of high grade rail line going from nowhere to..........nowhere! Very Happy
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
I found this near the level crossing on Saturday:


Hopefully it should work, I had a laugh when I saw it, yes the line is still in good condition, I only walked about 100 metres of it from the crossing.
  3981 Assistant Commissioner

Australind, what rock have you been hiding under to not of heard of the Jarradale line.  Laughing
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
Australind, what rock have you been hiding under to not of heard of the Jarradale line.  Laughing
"3981"


I havent been hiding under any rock 3981, this is the first time that I have seen this line and wondered we it went (Thats why I asked), I have heard of the Jarradale line.
  p2014 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton, WA
does any one have any photos of the line worked by the motive power brought for it?
  Riccardo Minister for Railways

Location: Gone. Don't bother PMing here.
The line is mentioned in the Serpentine-Jarrahdale planning documents as reopenable from the junction to the hwy to serve a proposed industrial park
  Cro_Pavo Junior Train Controller

Location: Midland
The line is mentioned in the Serpentine-Jarrahdale planning documents as reopenable from the junction to the hwy to serve a proposed industrial park
"Riccardo"


That sounds a little more promising than a tourist railway.  A tourist railway would be good but I won't see any attractions at end of the line - an old mine now covered in trees.

Which side of South Western Highway are they proposing the new industrial park?
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
Thanks guys, My trainer told me the other day, was told it was one of the best lines. Thanks Cro_Pavo for the years.
  shogun Station Master

p2014,

i dont have any photos, but im pretty sure A1506 and the D's were ordered with the intention of working the line initially. Later years any of the usual bauxite haulers ran up there. In the old WA Rail Rover video there is footage of one of the P class on its trial run going up the Jarrahdale line.[/quote]
  WAGR Chief Commissioner

"R" class EE's were very much part of the scene on that line. I think the "N"s done a stint also. I sure an N started a roaring bushfire when doing trials, Coming down the grade with the regen breaking engaged the  grid over heated, melted and fell to the ground causing the fire
  p2014 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton, WA
p2014,

i dont have any photos, but im pretty sure A1506 and the D's were ordered with the intention of working the line initially. Later years any of the usual bauxite haulers ran up there. In the old WA Rail Rover video there is footage of one of the P class on its trial run going up the Jarrahdale line.
"shogun"

thanks for that shogun  Smile
  p2014 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton, WA
"R" class EE's were very much part of the scene on that line. I think the "N"s done a stint also. I sure an N started a roaring bushfire when doing trials, Coming down the grade with the regen breaking engaged the  grid over heated, melted and fell to the ground causing the fire
"WAGR"


did this happen often or did comeng fix the problem Question
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
Another line that use to run from Spearwood across Stock road, where did that line go?
  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring
Another line that use to run from Spearwood across Stock road, where did that line go?
"Australind"


Hi Australind,

This was originally the Fremantle - Armadale line, cut back in later years to serve Bibra Lake, Elders woolstores and CBH Spearwood.  Lasted to around 1990, I think.

Simon
  Riccardo Minister for Railways

Location: Gone. Don't bother PMing here.
Is much of that line left? That could make a good suburban cross country rail line
  chrisr001 Chief Commissioner

Another line that use to run from Spearwood across Stock road, where did that line go?
"Australind"


Hi Australind,

This was originally the Fremantle - Armadale line, cut back in later years to serve Bibra Lake, Elders woolstores and CBH Spearwood.  Lasted to around 1990, I think.

Simon
"8888"


main part (armadale to current freight line) died in the late 60's - it was not there in 1975 (metro WTT does not have it)

not sure about the spearwood end
  Riccardo Minister for Railways

Location: Gone. Don't bother PMing here.
Have always been envious of WA that so many freight bypass lines in the suburbs, freights can get from near Midland to near Armadale and near Fremantle without affecting suburban passengers.

Look at Sydney - they had freight bypasses that worked for the size of Sydney in the 1920s, but definitely not for now.

Of course makes it boring for suburban railfans who can't expect to see anything passing their platforms but suburban passenger trains...but good for reliability.

A shame that this link, and the Welshpool link have gone, hopefully as much of the easements as possible can be kept for passenger use in future.
  chrisr001 Chief Commissioner

hopefully as much of the easements as possible can be kept for passenger use in future.
"Riccardo"


ah, that is going to be a bit of a problem for the armadale - freight line bit

at the armadale end, there is a 4 lane road over the foundation
the center is cut by the freeway and new cockburn station (building & carpark)

the freight line end is under a 4 lane road as well

so that line is no-go
  colinw Chief Commissioner

Is there a map anywhere showing these lines before they were cut?
  wraithe Locomotive Driver

i remember the bridge over sth wst hwy(on the jarrahdale line) getting a slight nudge from a loaded truck...
well actually i remember it happening a few times till main roads actually measured it in the middle of the road and not the edge...
  chrisr001 Chief Commissioner

Is there a map anywhere showing these lines before they were cut?
"colinw"


this is a very rough map, but gives a basic idea of what we are talking about



perth is the capital (if you didn't know)
fremantle - state port - 30km west of perth
armadale - 30km south of perth
midland - 30km east of perth

forrestfield - WA rail yard

forrestfield - freemantle line cuts armadale line at kenwick (~20km south of perth)

old line straight armadale - fremantle
crosses freight line at a place called 'north lake' / 'spearwood'

jarrahdale line
~20km ish long

connect to main south west line, then onto kwinana spur
alcoa have large refinery at kwinana

jarrahdale ~ 60ish km from perth

**numbers are rough, and only to be used as a guide**

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