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mjja
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:23 pm
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Was that just a plan or did it actually happen?
Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"
Michael Angelico
President, Smart Passengers Inc
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sueglossy
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:36 pm
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I think it actually happened. I'm not 100% sure though...
The real world is a lie, and your nightmares are real.
The library is real; there are people trapped in there...people who need to be shaved.
The shadows are moving again; those people are depending on you. Only you can shave them...only you....
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ZH836301
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:19 pm
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810 what sue?
Though I'm a waver of the red flag, to say it is all Connex's fault and that reverting to state ownership would cause all these problems to disappear in an instant, is just plain fantasy. While it would increase the accountability of the government, as well as give cost savings (if it were run properly); unless the current government attitude is altered - nothing would change.
A massive attitudinal revolution is really what is needed.
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John of Melbourne
The Ghost of George Stephenson
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:52 pm
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| sueglossy wrote: | Just as a note, according to the 1980's metropolitan train plan, trains ran about 810 a day. These days trains don't run nearly as much. Connex don't care, obviously, hence they make excuses such as capacity works to make out that they are doing something. They can actually fit many more trains on the network, they just aren't doing so.
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Connex run quite a few more than 810 trips a day these days.
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ninthnotch
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:03 pm
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sueglossy:
Which metropolitan plan was this? What were the figures compared to? Where is the study? Do you have exact figures?
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Gwiwer
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:14 pm
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A massive attitudinal revolution is really what is needed
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We need a world-class rail manager of the calibre of Ed Burkhardt or Chris Green.
Connex' policy where ever they run seems to be pretty much "do nothing and let it run itself" ......... sometimes it "runs itself" into the ground.
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Jason R
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:19 pm
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| Gwiwer wrote: | | Quote: |
A massive attitudinal revolution is really what is needed
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We need a world-class rail manager of the calibre of Ed Burkhardt or Chris Green. |
We need both.
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John of Melbourne
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:31 pm
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| I wrote: | | sueglossy wrote: | Just as a note, according to the 1980's metropolitan train plan, trains ran about 810 a day. These days trains don't run nearly as much. Connex don't care, obviously, hence they make excuses such as capacity works to make out that they are doing something. They can actually fit many more trains on the network, they just aren't doing so.
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Connex run quite a few more than 810 trips a day these days. |
In fact considerably more than twice that number.
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T411
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:55 am
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| John of Melbourne wrote: | | I wrote: | | sueglossy wrote: | Just as a note, according to the 1980's metropolitan train plan, trains ran about 810 a day. These days trains don't run nearly as much. Connex don't care, obviously, hence they make excuses such as capacity works to make out that they are doing something. They can actually fit many more trains on the network, they just aren't doing so.
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Connex run quite a few more than 810 trips a day these days. |
In fact considerably more than twice that number. |
Just out of interest John, how many services are run on a daily basis?
Thanks in advance 
"Its not an offence to drive like a prat, half of London does"
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psr85
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:16 pm
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| ninthnotch wrote: | sueglossy:
Which metropolitan plan was this? What were the figures compared to? Where is the study? Do you have exact figures? |
Notchy, you just asked her to do research.. Don't you remember, sue refuses to research or back up any of her claims. She self confessed to being "too lazy" apparently.... Facts Smacts.
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| sueglossy in the PTUA Hangups thread, page 20 wrote: | | Finally, please don't ask me to research something. I am merely expressing an opinion. I'm too lazy to research and it would be a waste of my time. Sorry. |
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11317397-0-asc-s285.htm
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John of Melbourne
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:32 pm
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| T411 wrote: | | John of Melbourne wrote: | | I wrote: | | sueglossy wrote: | Just as a note, according to the 1980's metropolitan train plan, trains ran about 810 a day. These days trains don't run nearly as much. Connex don't care, obviously, hence they make excuses such as capacity works to make out that they are doing something. They can actually fit many more trains on the network, they just aren't doing so.
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Connex run quite a few more than 810 trips a day these days. |
In fact considerably more than twice that number. |
Just out of interest John, how many services are run on a daily basis?
Thanks in advance |
Around 1,850 each weekday in the public timetable.
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T411
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:54 pm
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Thanks for that John.
Just out of idle curiousty - could 810 services per day be either Connex North/South prior to the two halves being put back together?
"Its not an offence to drive like a prat, half of London does"
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John of Melbourne
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:18 pm
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| T411 wrote: | Thanks for that John.
Just out of idle curiousty - could 810 services per day be either Connex North/South prior to the two halves being put back together? |
810 would be about right for the former Connex system, but sueglossy was quoting something from the 1980s, which was well before the railway was split in two.
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