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PalmerEldritch Say goodnight to the bad guy

Location: Princes Park, Carlton

Found at: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,19856542-2862,00.html

Tuning out louts

Liam Houlihan

July 21, 2006

AN annoyingly loud, brash and jaunty 400-year-old genre of music is being used to scare layabouts away from railway stations.

Train operator Connex is piping unpopular baroque music, which is notorious for tinny organs and recorders, to speakers at 41 problem train stations at night.

And the unorthodox lutes-against-louts approach is working.

Connex said the classical corrective had slashed the number of non-commuting youths loitering at its train stations.

The Hurstbridge, Lilydale, Belgrave and Pakenham lines, which have the worst reputation for loitering, also have the most "musical stations".

Stations get the music makeover if staff, passengers or police report recurring problems with people hanging about, Connex spokeswoman Kate De Clercq said.

"We have noticed a reduction in the amount of people -- not passengers -- who hang out at stations," said Ms De Clercq.

"And certainly, those who continue to loiter at stations don't stay anywhere near as long as they used to stay."

Station music is switched to "light rock" artists from Delta Goodrem to Billy Joel during the day.

"Light Rock contains 100 per cent well-known hits from the '70s, '80s, '90s and today," Ms De Clercq said.

The eastern half of the network has 90 per cent of the network's musical stations.

The Pakenham line has eight of the baroque bases and patrons of the last 12 stations on the Belgrave line and last eight on the Lilydale line have also had to face the music.

The music is piped to loop stations, Broadmeadows, Werribee, Footscray and Glen Waverley.

Advertisers are set to cash in with talking bus stops.

There is a plan for Melbourne bus shelters to blast ads for an FM radio breakfast show at passing foot traffic.

- A user

 
Byrnesy Minister for Railways

Location: Gone

The Hurstbridge line has a bad reputation for loitering? News to me, I must say. The only ones on that line that play classical music from what I remember are Greensborough, Watsonia, Diamond Creek and maybe Eltham. I think thats it.

 
station street Chief Commissioner

So whats the list?

AFAIK, it's:

Lilydale

Mooroolbark

Croydon

Ringwood East

Ringwood

Heatherdale

Nunawading

Blackburn

Belgrave

Tecoma

Upwey

Upper Fernree Gully

Boronia

Bayswater

Hathmont

Glen Wvaerley

Footscray

Broadmeadows

Werribee

(Frankston - I'm adding that one as I KNOW I have ehard it there before)

What Pakenham line stations? (Obviously no Officer Razz)

What Hurstbridge line stations?

Also - is St Albans, Sunshine or Watergerdens a place where this music can be ehard? What About Epping, Thostown, Reservoir or Preston?

I'm quite surprised that Nunawading, Blackburn and Glen Waverley have it - I hardly classify them as dangerous - however I suppose the music is to detour people just hanging around for fun - which I suppose culd eb at these stations. Funnily enough I haven't heard it at either of those 3 before either!

  -   Station   Street

 
wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria

We compiled this list sometime last year:
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-p363787.htm#363787

Boronia

Clayton

Coburg

Dandenong

Diamond Creek

Eltham

Fawkner

Footscray

Frankston

Glen Waverley

Glenroy

Greensborough

Heatherdale

Hoppers Crossing

Hurstbridge

Lilydale

Mentone

Mitcham

Montmorency

Nunawading

Ringwood

Springvale

Sunshine

Upper Ferntree Gully

Westall

- A user

 
Byrnesy Minister for Railways

Location: Gone

Coburg no longer has the music; last time I was at Fawkner, it still did.

 
xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong

With all the above stations playing forms of pre-recorded classical music, wouldn't it be an excellent idea to have the real thing playing at certain times at certain stages. Ideas can be as varying as:

-->>[insert name] string quartet appearing outside the booking office at Foostcray station from 12pm until 3pm tomorrow!

-->>MSO does Dandenong platform 1, 10pm Saturday night! Be there!!

-->>[insert name] High School Pipe band appearing at Ringwood station bus interchange from 8pm Sunday.

Now, wouldn't that be a deterent to the max?  Twisted Evil

 
unique Chief Commissioner

How annoying, what if you're not loitering and your waiting for the train and you're someone my age and really hate music like that, so I might be drunk and go stuff this I'll drive. and yeah do you get my drift?

 
joffie Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne

I quite like the music.

Nice and relaxing when waiting for the train.  Not all stations have classical music, I have noticed a genre' of rock and roll.

 
michaelgreenhill - Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne

How annoying, what if you're not loitering and your waiting for the train and you're someone my age and really hate music like that, so I might be drunk and go stuff this I'll drive. and yeah do you get my drift?

- unique



Yes, I get your drift...but it's a pretty stupid arguement. I don't know anybody who'd rather drink drive and risk losing their license (or worse) than to sit and wait for 15-20 minutes and put up with some crappy music playing softy in the background.

You could always do what I do, and bring an mp3 player.

 
unique Chief Commissioner

How annoying, what if you're not loitering and your waiting for the train and you're someone my age and really hate music like that, so I might be drunk and go stuff this I'll drive. and yeah do you get my drift?

- unique



Yes, I get your drift...but it's a pretty stupid arguement. I don't know anybody who'd rather drink drive and risk losing their license (or worse) than to sit and wait for 15-20 minutes and put up with some smeggy music playing softy in the background.

You could always do what I do, and bring an mp3 player.

- michaelgreenhill



This music might encourage young people not to use PT at night? So they might drive in a car full on rebel teenagers causing havoc on the roads drunk @ night times.

I wouldnt mind the music, but like the article said, it has worked good in getting loitering teenagers away, but what about the innocent ones that just want to catch a train home and have to endure annoying music? OH the inhumanity!  Laughing

 
EvanC Chief Plonker

Location: Bayswater, Victoria

Geez Unique - I reckon it's really actually quite pleasant honestly. You could complain about a lack of music if you want, but the presence of relatively benign (to any non-stoner) music? Oh, please!

Let's just be happy it's not rap or something! Now that would be a deterrent to genuine passengers!

 
unique Chief Commissioner

Geez Unique - I reckon it's really actually quite pleasant honestly. You could complain about a lack of music if you want, but the presence of relatively benign (to any non-stoner) music? Oh, please!

Let's just be happy it's not rap or something! Now that would be a deterrent to genuine passengers!

- EvanC



Very good point Evan, but maybe they shouldnt play the music during weekends when teenages are more likely to use PT? I'm not sure if they do that now though, hmm.

Anyone been able to get a recording of this music? Or know any of the songs names that they play.

 
ShaunDXB Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Crustacean

Anyone been able to get a recording of this music? Or know any of the songs names that they play.

- unique



They seem to play a lot of Tina Arena songs in the Loop, well, when im there they do. Flagstaff in particular.

Does the same music play in all the Loop stations?

And it might be just me, but lately the classical music they play at Frankston has been getting much louder and louder lately. You can clearly hear it from the other end of the bus interchange at times.  Shocked

 
clownswilleatme Deputy Commissioner

i wish they'd have music at richmond. im always waiting for a train there.... would be nice to have some light entertainment

/me hums girl from ipanema

 
Byrnesy Minister for Railways

Location: Gone

Anyone been able to get a recording of this music? Or know any of the songs names that they play.

- unique



They seem to play a lot of Tina Arena songs in the Loop, well, when im there they do. Flagstaff in particular.

Does the same music play in all the Loop stations?

And it might be just me, but lately the classical music they play at Frankston has been getting much louder and louder lately. You can clearly hear it from the other end of the bus interchange at times.  Shocked

- ShaunDXB

When I got off at Greensborough last week you could hear the classical music from quite some distance away as well.

 
PalmerEldritch Say goodnight to the bad guy

Location: Princes Park, Carlton

A sample of classical music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zN1ShKlgbg&mode=related&search=

 
unique Chief Commissioner

I seen a bit of that movie before, was too destressing so I turned it off.

That music, if they played that type of music I would shoot myself! I don't mind classical but that type is down right annoying.

 
Z181 Chief Train Controller

Location: Mernda

Hurstbridge Line Stations:

Hurstbridge (sometimes)

Dimond Creek

Eltham

Greensborough

Watsonia

Macleod (sometimes)

Clifton Hill

Jolimont (sometimes)

Sometimes means that I've heard the music there a few times but sometimes theres no music

 
Byrnesy Minister for Railways

Location: Gone

Must say I've never heard music at Clifton Hill........

 
The Vinelander Chief Commissioner

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

They definitely play it at Croydon on Sundays & it's particularly annoying as its not continuous. It's like a broken record jumping from groove to groove(sorry, you'll have to be over 25 to remember vinyl records)  Cool

For the younger people, I'm surprised you can hear this music over the stations PA due to you ALL wearing those dreadful music buds on full volume Evil or Very Mad ,

trying as quickly as possible to induce early deafness so you can litigate Exclamation

The Vinelander.

 
Flagstaff Red Afro

Location: Eaglemont, Hursty line, Melbourne.

From what I remember, they have played the radio in the city loop stations during the daytime (mainly Parliament and Flagstaff).

I also remember the first time I waited at Flagstaff station (2001) they were playing the organ music that I've heard at Croydon and stations.

Anyways my opionion; any music is better than nothing for anyone.

 
3071 Station Master

Does the same music play in all the Loop stations?

- ShaunDXB



No, there are three individual music systems for each Loop station.  

Last I knew Melbourne Central had stopped playing the music, but it continued at Parliament and Flagstaff.

I'm pretty sure the music is supplied by DMX, a subscriber music service which can either send out new CD's of a particular genre each month.  Or, a PA system can be hooked up to a cable-based system, providing access to a library of thousands of songs.

 
psr85 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sandringham Line, Melbourne

Melbourne Central still has music playing. It's not classical, its pretty much Mix101 type music, better than listening to school kids talking about things school kids talk about       Embarassed

 
EvanC Chief Plonker

Location: Bayswater, Victoria

I'm pretty sure the music is supplied by DMX, a subscriber music service which can either send out new CD's of a particular genre each month.  Or, a PA system can be hooked up to a cable-based system, providing access to a library of thousands of songs.

- 3071

I think the music is played by control stations, so the CD service would be the likely scenario there.

 
Autopenguin Assistant Commissioner

A couple of things about that piece of Murdoch "journalism" amused me:



"We have noticed a reduction in the amount of people -- not passengers -- who hang out at stations," said Ms De Clercq."

- A user

Oh, so passengers aren't people? Thanks a bunch, Kate Smile



"Light Rock contains 100 per cent well-known hits from the '70s, '80s, '90s and today," Ms De Clercq said.

- A user

Well, if she ever needs a new job, she's already primed to be a publicist for Nova or MMM Laughing



The Pakenham line has eight of the baroque bases and patrons of the last 12 stations on the Belgrave line and last eight on the Lilydale line have also had to face the music.

- A user

I swear they must force all News Ltd journos to do an intensive training course in stupid puns and alliteration!

 

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