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24 hour service in the "old days"?

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invictius Chief Train Controller   Joined: Aug 24, 2004
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:13 am
Was there ever a 24 hour suburban service (at least, similar to how the intercity one is atm) at any stage?
 
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hornetfig Chief Train Controller   Joined: May 13, 2004
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:27 pm
pre-Night Ride (so 1988 or whatever) services ran through the night
 
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boaf Train Controller   Joined: Jul 14, 2006
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:59 pm
Nightride is good, why run trains for the limited people who travel at those hours of the morning, bus them. Better alternative and imagine the damage that could be caused by them on trains. Western Line mostly.
 
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The_Beer_Baron Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Aug 13, 2004
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:39 pm
Mate, have you ever caught a nightride/nightmare before. When I use to live in Kogarah and needed to catch the nightride into work I would have to get there at least 15 mins before it was due. The first time I caught it it was 12 mins early, picked me up and didn't stop until central, so god only knows how early he was.

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21C123 Chief Train Controller   Joined: Sep 15, 2005
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:55 pm
boaf wrote:
Nightride is good, why run trains for the limited people who travel at those hours of the morning, bus them. Better alternative and imagine the damage that could be caused by them on trains. Western Line mostly.

That's a comment on how society has degenerated more than anything else!

I used to catch the 0110 or the 0350 services to the Blue Mountains reasonably frequently in the early '80's and never saw any unpleasant behaviour, vandalism etc at all... These days, you seem to get a lot of that sort of thing even at 9pm!



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Damien Assistant Commissioner   Joined: May 15, 2005
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:41 am
boaf wrote:
Nightride is good, why run trains for the limited people who travel at those hours of the morning, bus them. Better alternative and imagine the damage that could be caused by them on trains. Western Line mostly.


How often do you travel of the Western line? From what I recall you mostly use the East Hills and Illawarra. Anyway I've witnessed a lot more damage being caused on the Illawarra then the West but it's doesn't matter where the train is it's the general demenor all around Sydney.

And Nightrider good? Razz It take over 1½ hours to get to Penrith on one of those things, they're always overcrowded a bus doesn't have enough capacity and terribly uncomfortable

The trains are actually more likely to be damaged between the hours of 2100 and 0100 after that most offenders are unconcious and it's too cold to be out and about. Razz
 
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Simes_mk2 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Feb 03, 2005
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:46 pm
yeah i tend to agree nightride needs an overhaul, maybe railcorp could buy up a heap of surplus bendies (read old) from adelaide and other cities, employ a company to manage them and have specially prepared "vomit comets" Laughing vinyl seats and flooring that makes em easy to hose out would be the ideal



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boaf Train Controller   Joined: Jul 14, 2006
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:27 pm
Yea i admit i don't use the western line regularly now, but how can you say that there is more damage on the illawara line. Never had any problems on the south coast line but have on the western line , but i think the school holidays is bad on any line.
 
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Bwana Chief Commissioner   Joined: Jul 21, 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:52 pm
Not comparing it to any other line, but in the mid 90's I used to come home from uni on trains around 9-10pm ex Wollongong, and don't recall ever doing it without seeing at least one drunk. I suspect the western line would be worse but I think boaf's statement "Nevr had any problems" is pushing it a bit.
 
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:59 pm
Its definately one of the safest lines. Well put it this way ive havent seen youths get on and drink and smoke like i saw on a western line train between Penrith and Mt Druitt. Wink
 
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Damien Assistant Commissioner   Joined: May 15, 2005
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:47 pm
boaf wrote:
Its definately one of the safest lines. Well put it this way ive havent seen youths get on and drink and smoke like i saw on a western line train between Penrith and Mt Druitt. Wink


You've obviously never caught the 23:27 out of Sutherland heading towards the city, P.S. I stated time out of Sutherland cause I can't be bothered getting the timetable out Razz.
 
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invictius Chief Train Controller   Joined: Aug 24, 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:45 am
Is there any timetable online for some of these older services? And I remember a newspaper article that detailed the crime rate by each line - has anyone got a copy of this?
 
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JZ Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Jul 18, 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:18 pm
21C123 wrote:
That's a comment on how society has degenerated more than anything else!



It also shows that transit police doesnt do its job properly. Instead of putting more officers on duty in late and early hours they patrol trains during business hours when there is the least trouble. Also I dont see how they improve passenger safety by attending the ticket barriers 90% of time. Btw I am not blaming officers but the management.

Nowdays it is impossible to get to work by 0600 in some circumstances. For me to get from Livo to St Leonards/North Sydney by 0545 requires to catch Nightride at 3.47 and than change to trains at Stratfield, so I have to get at 0300. Otherwise if I choose to drive I can afford to get up at 0450. It's a big difference.
 
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cammo2005 Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Dec 16, 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:48 pm
I do think that at least intercity trains should keep running through the night.

You don't get too many problems down south, so stopping the Intercity at Hurstville and Sutho as per normal should be fine (don't bother with Waterfall. It's a dot, with a grand total of about 20 houses nearby.

This would work fine for me. I could walk home from Sutho. I've gotten home pretty late here without issue.

It wouldn't need to be an uber-frequent service either. I think one an hour would suffice.

Services heading up the Blues could skip all stops except Parra (which probably should get some kind of service regardless of hour) and perhaps Stratty.
 
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invictius Chief Train Controller   Joined: Aug 24, 2004
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:57 am
JZ: You're well 'ard - over 2 hours sitting on a nightride, BEFORE starting work?
 
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