No free rides to union rally

 
  Metlink_Melb Junior Train Controller

No free rides to union rally
Danny Buttler
November 27, 2006 12:00am

CONNEX will fine protesters who follow union advice and try to travel to Thursday's huge MCG rally without a ticket.

The ACTU has declared that anyone travelling to the industrial relations protest can ride free on public transport.
However Connex has warned it will be business as usual on Thursday, with inspectors issuing fines to anyone without a valid ticket.

A Connex spokeswoman said the ACTU should reconsider before it advises people to break the law.

"At the moment the union hasn't approached Connex," Kate De Clerq said. "But before they have worked out a deal with us, they certainly shouldn't be encouraging people not to have a ticket on Thursday."

Despite the potential for fare evasion fines on Thursday, ACTU president Sharan Burrow was adamant that union influence would see protesters given a free ride.

"It'll be free, the venue will be free, the trains will be free, the buses will be free," she said.

"If there's any lingering issues we will sort them out by Thursday."

Ms Burrow said the Trades Hall Council would negotiate with the transport operator to ensure there were no problems for protesters.

"I don't know what the details are, but we will work with Trades Hall between now and Thursday to work it out," she said.

"We'll be talking to Connex management and doing whatever it takes."

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  Z181 Chief Train Controller

Location: Mernda
For all those who are going, BY A TICKET as the goons will be standing at Jolimont checking tickets.
  MelbourneCity Chief Commissioner

Just a question...
Does Connex use Australian Workplace Agreements (AWAs)?
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
For all those who are going, BY A TICKET as the goons will be standing at Jolimont checking tickets.
"Z181"

Why? You really expect them to attempt to fine thousands of people?
  mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne
Connex people might not (as Connex doesn't get the money). But DoI people might, especially if they're involved with the spat and have no love for the ACTU.
  PalmerEldritch Say goodnight to the bad guy

Location: Princes Park, Carlton
Connex people might not (as Connex doesn't get the money). But DoI people might, especially if they're involved with the spat and have no love for the ACTU.
"mjja"

And then this will be used as an excuse by agent-provocateurs to forment violence, and then blame it on "union thuggery".
  sthyer Deputy Commissioner

The union emails I'm receiving today are indicating free travel 6-12. Given that ticket staff and AO's are pretty much all union members, I'm not thinking it will be a problem.
Public transport staff, as much as many would like to attend the rallies, stay at work to ensure the rest of the masses can get there. I guess this is their way of showing solidarity.
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
it is a fairly Unique event, you would think they would give free public transport.
  psr85 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sandringham Line, Melbourne
Be interesting to see if they man the barriers at the MCG exit of Richmond, then people could be in a pickle.
  greenkayaker Minister for Railways

Location: Lithgovian Media Centre
it is a fairly Unique event, you would think they would give free public transport.
"Shacks"

Is this free travel to be on the Melbourne_Sparks???
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
No GK, there is no free public transport to the event in Melbourne, not even on the Sparks. We have free busses to the event up here in Darwin.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Connex people might not (as Connex doesn't get the money). But DoI people might, especially if they're involved with the spat and have no love for the ACTU.
"mjja"

And then this will be used as an excuse by agent-provocateurs to forment violence, and then blame it on "union thuggery".
"PalmerEldritch"

Not necessary.  The union thuggery (albeit not physical) is already evident in them encouraging people to break the law by travelling without a ticket, in (allegedly) arranging for the Connex ticket inspectors to not perform their duties properly, etc. etc.

They seem to think that they run the state.
  Revenue Chief Commissioner

From The Age

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ir-rally-no-free-ride/2006/11/28/1164476188877.html

IR rally no free ride
Email Print Normal font Large font Jane Holroyd
November 28, 2006 - 4:00PM

Premier Steve Bracks has warned public transport users they could be fined if they don't buy tickets to travel to Thursday's mass industrial relations protest at the MCG.

Unions are hoping more than 100,000 people will attend the rally, which begins at 8am, and have asked commuters to avoid roads near the MCG if they are not attending.

Last week Victorian Trades Hall Council secretary Brian Boyd said all trams and trains to the MCG would be free because members of the Rail Tram and Bus Union would not be checking tickets.

Mr Bracks said he did not support Mr Boyd's comments.

"We expect people to pay fares," he said.

"There will be the same sort of scrutiny on that as there has been in the past."

Schools to close

Mr Bracks said he supported teachers and students who wished to attend Thursday's stop-work rally after Prime Minister John Howard blasted teachers in federal parliament today.

Mr Howard said teachers who wanted to protest his government's new workplace laws should protest "on their own (time) and not on children's time".

But Mr Bracks said the right to take industrial action was enshrined in Victoria.

"People have the right to express their views in a democracy," Mr Bracks said.

"People have the right to take industrial action or stop work."

Hundreds of Victorian schools will be shut or run on a skeleton staff on Thursday because of the "Fill The 'G" rally.

The Australian Education Union (AEU) says it expects many of its 32,000 members statewide to attend, meaning many of Victoria's 1675 primary and secondary schools will shut their doors.

AEU Victorian president Mary Bluett said teachers, principals and school staff from across the state would begin driving to Melbourne as early as 5am (AEST) on Thursday.

Mr Bracks said his government would provide assistance in schools where teachers would not be present.

"I would hope that there is minimal disruption and there will be arrangements made to assist parents and students," he said.

Rally to be broadcast

ACTU president Sharan Burrow said the MCG rally would be broadcast via satellite link to other rallies across Australia including those at Belmore and Tumbalong Parks in Sydney; Southbank in Brisbane; Elder Park in Adelaide; Hobart's city hall; Manuka Oval in Canberra; and the WACA in Perth.

"This will be Australia's biggest ever simultaneous community protest with more than 300 localities being linked up by satellite with the MCG rally," Ms Burrow said.

"Thursday's protest is an important opportunity for working families to send a message that they are strongly opposed to the Federal Government's unfair IR laws."

The ACTU said the rallies were the beginning of a new phase of a union campaign against the Howard Government's controversial IR laws.

"Unions are determined to wage a long campaign to build community support for fair industrial relations laws that respect the rights of workers and safeguard the jobs and lifestyles of Australian working families," Ms Burrow said.

"I urge everyone who is worried about the IR laws to come to the MCG or their local protest venue on Thursday. And bring your children, it's their future too."

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  thekeeper Junior Train Controller

Location: Mill Park Lakes
Went to the IR rally today and whilst there were ticket goons at Jolimont, they were hardly taking the job seriously.  The inspector I walked past was calling out "tickets please" whilst staring at the Hilton across the road!

The organisers blamed the late trains many times during the rally as the reason for the place being half full, Corrine Grant suggesting the Libs had been down there with bolt cutters Smile
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
Connex people might not (as Connex doesn't get the money). But DoI people might, especially if they're involved with the spat and have no love for the ACTU.
"mjja"

And then this will be used as an excuse by agent-provocateurs to forment violence, and then blame it on "union thuggery".
"PalmerEldritch"

Not necessary.  The union thuggery (albeit not physical) is already evident in them encouraging people to break the law by travelling without a ticket, in (allegedly) arranging for the Connex ticket inspectors to not perform their duties properly, etc. etc.

They seem to think that they run the state.
"John of Melbourne"
You've been practicing for this sort of Right-wing vitriol on the talk pages of creationwiki, haven't you?
  mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne
So tell me 'notch - why are you left-wing?
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
So tell me 'notch - why are you left-wing?
"mjja"
Becuase you're right-wing.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
The inspector I walked past was calling out "tickets please" whilst staring at the Hilton across the road!
"thekeeper"


If they're asking to see your ticket, they're doing their job properly, unlike the AOs (ex Travel Safe people I think) on the trains which rarely ask for tickets unless there's a couple of rowdy people on the train. If you don't have a ticket that's going to be a problem, and you'll possibly end up minus $150 or whatever it is now. The one and only time I've been caught without a ticket is when I was on a No.70 tram into the city about 4 years ago, IIRC it was A2.272 - All I had on me was a $20 note, and after about a week I ended up minus $100 because of that. BATBYGOBSTOPL has been my way of getting trams from then!
  Nexas The Ghost of George Stephenson

No GK, there is no free public transport to the event in Melbourne, not even on the Sparks. We have free busses to the event up here in Darwin.
"Shacks"


I think his joke went right over your head, Shacks. RazzLaughing
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
No GK, there is no free public transport to the event in Melbourne, not even on the Sparks. We have free busses to the event up here in Darwin.
"Shacks"


I think his joke went right over your head, Shacks. RazzLaughing
"Nexas"


.... and to think, I thought it was unique.
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
I can't imagine why they would allow free transport to a rally like this. It would be the perfect opportunity to make money off people.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
I can't imagine why they would allow free transport to a rally like this. It would be the perfect opportunity to make money off people.
"Camster"
Conex aren't giving people free travel.

It is the unionised Authorised Officers saying that they will not be checking tickets, so as a result one could travel without a ticket and not risk getting a fine. The unionised workers said that in order to help out other unionised workers - that's the whole point of a union...
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
Interesting to hear a few loud voices complaining bitterly about the overcrowding on the trains yesterday, which was in part due to the Fill The G rally.

But when it came to who has a ticket for the journey guess what?  Most of those heading to the rally and making all the noise were freeloaders.

My personal politics apart I resent having a train load of free riders who them turn round and complain (not just a whinge, but vocally and for most of the hour's journey) about overcrowding.  Just a bit rich, I think.
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
I can't imagine why they would allow free transport to a rally like this. It would be the perfect opportunity to make money off people.
"Camster"
Conex aren't giving people free travel.

It is the unionised Authorised Officers saying that they will not be checking tickets, so as a result one could travel without a ticket and not risk getting a fine. The unionised workers said that in order to help out other unionised workers - that's the whole point of a union...
"wongm"


Well they should have gone on strike like the people who attended the rally, going to work and doing a half arsed job was in effect, sitting on the fence.
  psr85 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sandringham Line, Melbourne
I can't imagine why they would allow free transport to a rally like this. It would be the perfect opportunity to make money off people.
"Camster"
Conex aren't giving people free travel.

It is the unionised Authorised Officers saying that they will not be checking tickets, so as a result one could travel without a ticket and not risk getting a fine. The unionised workers said that in order to help out other unionised workers - that's the whole point of a union...
"wongm"


Well they should have gone on strike like the people who attended the rally, going to work and doing a half arsed job was in effect, sitting on the fence.
"Camster"
Not everybody disagrees with these new laws.  Why should everybody have to strike? How would you get to the rally if everybody did a "half arsed job" and sat "on the fence"? Rolling Eyes

It's a shame the crazy unions, and obviously you Camster, don't realise that not everyone wanted to be involved with the protests.

Some parents wouldn't have been able to go to work because teachers went on strike. Is that a good thing? Nope. Forced to take a day off.

Others were inconvenienced by it all, and just wanted to go to work. But I guess that is what protesting is all about.

Good luck to the ALP if they want to repeal these laws, if and when they get into office..... they'll automatically be kicking themselves out of office. Too many people would be outraged at the repealing of the laws, even though plenty will be happy if they are repealed.

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