YVR - Yarra Valley Railway

 
  Melbournesparks Chief Commissioner

Location: City of Eltham
Life made a little easier. Shots from yesterday morning showing Metro delivering 4km of used rail to Lilydale. This meant we only had to truck it the very short distance to Yarra Glen, rather than from the city. This rail is going to be used for bridge decking.
Thunda

That's a nice thing to see happen, I would have thought Metro would claim "non core business" or something and want nothing to do with it. Do you know where they unloaded the rail in Lilydale?

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  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

That's a nice thing to see happen, I would have thought Metro would claim "non core business" or something and want nothing to do with it. Do you know where they unloaded the rail in Lilydale?
"Melbournesparks"


The rail was unloaded on the Goods Shed road at the down end of the Yard, the Railtrain also departed from the same road, just as they used to do in years gone by...........
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
The rail train was parked at Lilydale again today, on no. 3 road, with shut down locos.  The rails were in long welded lengths, and looked new.  Are these rails also for YVR, or are they for something else, and if so, what?
  perks Chief Train Controller

Location: Sunny Vic
The rail train was parked at Lilydale again today, on no. 3 road, with shut down locos.  The rails were in long welded lengths, and looked new.  Are these rails also for YVR, or are they for something else, and if so, what?
Lad_Porter
That is new rail going in. Should be dropped off where required over night during the next few. When they finally do the swap, the old rail will be brought back to Lilydale and shipped to Yarra Glen in a few weeks.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Thanks for that information.  It's good to see that Metro is willing to co-operate with a preservation group in this way.

What would be really nice is if the train could take the old rails to Yarra Glen, but no chance of that any more.
  trestle_nutter Train Controller

Location: Yarra Valley
an update on the bridge reconstruction for those that are not on Facebook .......the concrete pile caps & footings have been completed for 10 bridges & the structural steel was erected for 8 bridges over the Labour day weekend with a further 2 the weekend before. photos of the bridges via this link......
http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/trestle_nutter/library/YVR%20bridges%20structural%20steel
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
What a good effort - well done everybody.
  Thunda Junior Train Controller

It's been quite a while but here's a bit of an update.

Bridges.
All the concreting is done. All steel work errected aside from the last 2 bridges. Rail decks have been completed on bridges that have the steel work upright. Full beam decks are being prepared for the final 2 bridges for fitting once the steel work is in place.

Formation.
Being cleared, almost complete and ready for road bed grading.

Restoration works.
Works continuing on the latest BW in the shops, 1BW and 34BW are pretty much complete aready. External timber almost complete on 32BW. (think that's the current one)
A ZD is almost complete on the exterior. (again cannot remember the number)
Work is progressing on 58MT. Focus is on the guards end currently. Steel work has been repaired and new timber framing for the ends is done. Flooring in the guards end is almost 1/2 done. Repairs to the side entry steps have begun with the fabricating of new mounting brackets started. Materials on hand for new steps to be constructed.

Some pics of the Walker trailer works below.

Condition of frame etc once the panels were removed....... Coupler pocket smashed and has been replaced with a spare.


Just a bit of corrosion.




More corrosion.




New sill.




And complete with new panels.


Frame being constructed.


Worst of the side step brackets.


Best of the side step brackets was cut off and templates made for a new one. Now in 3mm steel rather than 1mm! And we cannot work out what the roughly cut hole was for. Not there for access to nuts/bolts on the inside, doesn't relate to the grab rails and it's completely covered by the side panels when they are fitted. All 4 brackets have them too.......


Welded into place. Also now has captive nuts rather than bolts trying to hold in 1mm steel. Should last a little longer. Steps are being done ahead of other steel repairs so we have easier access to the interior........


And primed. (I'm not a painter hence the runs.)


Cheers, Al.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Excellent report and photos - very informative - well done.
  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

Are the roughly cut holes for water egress?
  Thunda Junior Train Controller

No, they are not for drainage. The posts were/are open at the bottom so any water can just exit there.

There are now 2 of them complete. Next will be the construction of the step unit. We have had the metal pre cut and folded to the correct shapes by our steel supplier so it's just a case of welding together and bolting in place.

And the reason for the jacks is that the passenger compartment end bogie is out and being overhauled. Nice and easy to lift something that only weighs 8 tons inc the bogies........ But also the reason for it's poor condition as a lot of the steel work aside from the chassis is just 1mm steel plate that has been folded and spot welded together. Not very corrosion resistant. If you look closely at the right hand post there is some addional welding that has been done above where the small horizontal section is. This is the result of trying to chase good metal with the welder and just blowing holes in the rust, so it was cut out and replaced. It's all covered by trims so a neat finish isn't required there. (and it was nearly 10pm so the 'stuff it' point had been reached!)

  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
I'm surprised that no-one's posted this semi-recent news article yet:
http://mountainviews.mailcommunity.com.au/mail/2017-02-08/volunteers-build-great-bridges/
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
The YVR were in the news again:
http://mountainviews.mailcommunity.com.au/mail/2017-08-07/hands-help-the-railway/

A very informative article recently written by a YVR volunteer about the works done so far has also been published recently:
https://yarravalleyechoes.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/reinstating-a-railway-line/
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
YVR website is a bit broken with the gallery links.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
YVR website is a bit broken with the gallery links.
Heihachi_73
The page tells you:

"If difficulties persist, please contact the System Administrator of this site and report the error below.
404 Article not found"

Have you done that? The contact details (from the site) are:
WebAdmin Bob Norton-Baker 0487 172 576 webadmin@yvr.com.au
  ryleyrail Station Master

Has their been any progress on the J class that has been sitting at the Healesville compound, or are they playing the waiting game for the other J (J541, I say with caution) to arrive?

Any replies are much appreciated.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
J516 hasn't been touched for years and is very low down on the YVR's priority list. If you read this thread I think you'll figure out why.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
The YVR were in the news again:
http://mountainviews.mailcommunity.com.au/mail/2017-08-07/hands-help-the-railway/

A very informative article recently written by a YVR volunteer about the works done so far has also been published recently:
https://yarravalleyechoes.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/reinstating-a-railway-line/
LancedDendrite
In the first link above, it says "...... the reconstruction of the railway, which will eventually see Healesille and Lilydale connected by rail."

(My emphasis).  Where did they get that from???
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
Journos make stuff up all the time. I imagine that they asked a board member if they'll ever get back to Lilydale and they answered with something along the lines of 'never say never'. Then the journo doesn't bother to do any research and just writes down that the YVR is going to get back to Lilydale and thinks nothing of it.

The YVR only has an order-in-council between Yarra Glen and Healesville.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Yes, I knew that, but wondered if something had changed.

Back in the early days of the YVR (then known as the Yarra Valley Tourist Railway, and/or the Healesville Railway Co-op) the line had been reopened from Lilydale (or more correctly, from Coldstream) to Yarra Glen, and Steamrail ran a few trains.  I also remember the odd train for filming purposes, and there was a charter one night for the MMBW (remember them?) with the "Murray" car in the consist.  Local knowledge says that the line was closed again because of the condition of the trestle bridges, particularly the long one over the river, riddled with white ants.

I used to enjoy walking over that bridge, where in the lagoons I would often see pelicans, spoonbills and swans.  The birds may still be there, but I doubt if any bridge will ever come back.
  DounutCereal Chief Train Controller

Location: Who knows.
Yes, I knew that, but wondered if something had changed.

Back in the early days of the YVR (then known as the Yarra Valley Tourist Railway, and/or the Healesville Railway Co-op) the line had been reopened from Lilydale (or more correctly, from Coldstream) to Yarra Glen, and Steamrail ran a few trains.  I also remember the odd train for filming purposes, and there was a charter one night for the MMBW (remember them?) with the "Murray" car in the consist.  Local knowledge says that the line was closed again because of the condition of the trestle bridges, particularly the long one over the river, riddled with white ants.

I used to enjoy walking over that bridge, where in the lagoons I would often see pelicans, spoonbills and swans.  The birds may still be there, but I doubt if any bridge will ever come back.
Lad_Porter
I'd be in the boat of echoing LancedDendrite with 'Never say never' about the ling trestle. At least in the far future of 15 years or more considering all the trestles they're rebuilt from the ground up in steel so far. They seem to have a solid steel trestle design that can be modified to any length like the timber trestles seemed to be when they were done. You never know if something might be put back one day in the far future. For now though they have their hands pretty tied with the line rebuild they're doing but seeing how they're managing with that huge project, I'm interested to see what they decide to do after the 3 stations are reconnected
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

Yes, I knew that, but wondered if something had changed.

Back in the early days of the YVR (then known as the Yarra Valley Tourist Railway, and/or the Healesville Railway Co-op) the line had been reopened from Lilydale (or more correctly, from Coldstream) to Yarra Glen, and Steamrail ran a few trains.  I also remember the odd train for filming purposes, and there was a charter one night for the MMBW (remember them?) with the "Murray" car in the consist.  Local knowledge says that the line was closed again because of the condition of the trestle bridges, particularly the long one over the river, riddled with white ants.

I used to enjoy walking over that bridge, where in the lagoons I would often see pelicans, spoonbills and swans.  The birds may still be there, but I doubt if any bridge will ever come back.
I'd be in the boat of echoing LancedDendrite with 'Never say never' about the ling trestle. At least in the far future of 15 years or more considering all the trestles they're rebuilt from the ground up in steel so far. They seem to have a solid steel trestle design that can be modified to any length like the timber trestles seemed to be when they were done. You never know if something might be put back one day in the far future. For now though they have their hands pretty tied with the line rebuild they're doing but seeing how they're managing with that huge project, I'm interested to see what they decide to do after the 3 stations are reconnected
DounutCereal
do not hold your breath, Yarra Glen Healesville only.................I am one of the original members and I say that this will not happen.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
Yes, I knew that, but wondered if something had changed.

Back in the early days of the YVR (then known as the Yarra Valley Tourist Railway, and/or the Healesville Railway Co-op) the line had been reopened from Lilydale (or more correctly, from Coldstream) to Yarra Glen, and Steamrail ran a few trains.  I also remember the odd train for filming purposes, and there was a charter one night for the MMBW (remember them?) with the "Murray" car in the consist.  Local knowledge says that the line was closed again because of the condition of the trestle bridges, particularly the long one over the river, riddled with white ants.
Lad_Porter
Nothing has changed re: Lilydale. It's still a pipe dream. The YVR doesn't have any control over that section of line, let alone the kind of money needed to rebuild it. That said, you'd be hard-pressed to find a member of the YVR who doesn't want the railway to eventually get some sort of mainline connection.

The YVTR also held the order-in-council for the Coldstream-Yarra Glen section up until the some time in the 90s if memory serves me right. They handed it back due to a whole bunch of maintenance-related issues, not just the condition of the Yarra Flats trestles.

I'm interested to see what they decide to do after the 3 stations are reconnected
DonutCereal
I guess this is the part of the post where I spruik becoming a financial member of the YVR Razz  It gives you some channels to ask those sorts of questions... and you might even get some answers!

do not hold your breath, Yarra Glen Healesville only.................I am one of the original members and I say that this will not happen.
trainbrain
And yet you've seen the progress that's been made in the last 10 years alone at the YVR. It's certainly more plausible than a lot of other Preservation pipe dreams... like getting Heavy Harry to steam again Laughing
  6-4-0 Beginner

I’ve heard that concrete sleepers are being installed @ YVR - is that accurate?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I’ve heard that concrete sleepers are being installed @ YVR - is that accurate?
6-4-0
IF they are that is the only place in Victoria where single gauge BG concrete should be used.

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