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      T356 Chief Train Controller

    Location: KILSYTH, VICTORIA
    On Saturday, 30/12/06, the end of the line for the YVTR was set in place.
    Yes, thats right, the end of the line for the YVTR at Healesville. To some, this will come as a shock, but to others, it was expected and planned for.
    As it happens, there wasn't a tear when it happened because it was about 30 deg outside, but some people were sweating in these trying times.
    The situation started many months ago, I know because I was there when the sign post was put in place to be acted on. The 39 mile post to be exact. I helped move it in the workshop so that it could repainted and on Saturday, I helped carry it from the workshop to be finally laid to rest. It is a few meters short of it's exact position, but here is a road in the way.



    Here is the work crew involved, plus me, your photographer on the day.
    Posted: 03 Jan 2007 17:19

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      Railfan9949 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere between Gembrook to Healesville to Seymour to Maldon
    The day I call it "end of the line" is the day they put a "bauk" across the track.. or at least a buffer stop  Wink
    Posted: 03 Jan 2007 18:16
      SJB Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    .......interesting
    Posted: 03 Jan 2007 18:26
      perks Chief Train Controller

    Location: Sunny Vic
    Funny, that buffer stop is at 38 miles, 77 chains and 80 somthing links. Smile
    Posted: 03 Jan 2007 18:34
      T356 Chief Train Controller

    Location: KILSYTH, VICTORIA
    What buffer stop? There isn't one. I did say it's a few meters short of where it's supposed to be.
    Posted: 03 Jan 2007 19:08
      perks Chief Train Controller

    Location: Sunny Vic
    That peice of timber bolted to the line in the place of a buffer stop. But i belive the call was to just extend the line over the road so the mile post is correct. Some people may notice that though
    Posted: 03 Jan 2007 22:50
      R704 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Who cares you ain't gonna visit!
    where isnt "superman" when it comes to W&W  Wink



    we would be stuffed without him!
    Posted: 03 Jan 2007 23:15
      Train Master Junior Train Controller

    I have seen your railroad, not too bad......Getting the Wclass moving again is a great fleat.I'd like see your railmotor run again in the near future. But The line will need a bit of lengthening!!!

    Smile When all your bridges are done and all the paperwork and carraige restoration are done I will sticking eyes on net to hear of your achivenments.
    Posted: 04 Jan 2007 19:47
      mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

    Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne
    When I saw the thread title I thought it meant YVTR was going to close up shop...
    Posted: 04 Jan 2007 21:18
      K160 Minister for Railways

    Location: Bendigo
    So I wasn't the only one fooled by the thread title...  Embarassed
    Posted: 04 Jan 2007 21:22
      banksy_512 Chief Train Controller

    Location: Brisbane QLD
    I must say I thought the same thing aswell .....
    Posted: 04 Jan 2007 21:32
      VBAndy Chief Commissioner

    Me too. Not a great way to title your thread.
    Posted: 05 Jan 2007 00:01
      Railfan9949 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere between Gembrook to Healesville to Seymour to Maldon
    Well the "39 mile post" which as pointed out before, is placed a little short of the exact spot.. but technically it is located at the end of the line for YVR, as it only run as far as where there is rail.. which I guess for the reason to the title..

    Speaking of which, on my earlier post, I like to correct myself.. there IS a baulk (not a buffer perks) at the end of section known as the "head shunt" or if you like the unofficial transfer ramp where 22RM was off loaded.. so therefore is the end of the line..

    But one might say where rail ends is the end of the line... but either way there is a road on the other side and either way you look at it, no railway mountable vehicle will go too far towards town centre from this point!
    Posted: 05 Jan 2007 01:30
      Seal Train Controller

    Location: Imitating Track Machines
    Measured from the 38MP, the end of the line is 1590.4m. This is just under 19metres short of the mile at 1609.344 metres. The 39MP has been placed about 2 m back from the end of the line.


    regards.
    Posted: 05 Jan 2007 10:26
      T356 Chief Train Controller

    Location: KILSYTH, VICTORIA
    When I saw the thread title I thought it meant YVTR was going to close up shop...
    "mjja"

    Not with all the work that is happening along the line, works trolley last night from Healesville to up end of Yarra Glen yard with weed spraying along the last 3Km or so. DN Healesville Arr 23:45.

    So I wasn't the only one fooled by the thread title...
    "K160"

    I must say I thought the same thing aswell .....
    "banksy_512"

    Me too. Not a great way to title your thread.
    "VBAndy"


    Not fooled! Concerned? Maybe. Interest to find out what's happened, definitely.
    By the way, it is the end of the line at YVTR, or about 2m short of the end.

    I apologize to all concerned, not for the way I worded the title but for your initial thoughts of the demise of another TR. From the excitement of getting into Yarra Glen last night, nothing short of a major catastrophe will stop us from achieving our goals. After that is finished and we start on the section from Yarra Glen to Lilydale, imagine the look on peoples faces when we roll into Lilydale for the first time.
    Posted: 05 Jan 2007 12:59
      VBAndy Chief Commissioner

    Personally I dont think running in to Lilydale is essential to the railway. I reckon it would cause more headaches than its worth running along side Connex. (or who ever could possibly run the metro by that stage) Either way you still got to get trains rolling up to Yarra Glen first so lets not get too far ahead here.
    Posted: 05 Jan 2007 22:56
      dalts 1985 Banned

    Location: Banned
    When I saw the thread title I thought it meant YVTR was going to close up shop...
    "mjja"

    So I wasn't the only one fooled by the thread title...  Embarassed
    "K160"

    I must say I thought the same thing aswell .....
    "banksy_512"

    Me too. Not a great way to title your thread.
    "VBAndy"


    The the rest of my afore meantion'd & quote forum contributors I was automatically thinking: Ohhh no, they have been another group to sadly bite the dust intodays tough economic climate! I'm thankful to see that is not the case!


    Personally I dont think running in to Lilydale is essential to the railway. I reckon it would cause more headaches than its worth running along side Connex. (or who ever could possibly run the metro by that stage) Either way you still got to get trains rolling up to Yarra Glen first so lets not get too far ahead here.
    "VBAndy"


    One only has to look a the problems VGR had to operate into Castlemane when contending with the former FA now PN! It could only be worse for dealing with Connex & a whole heap more trains operating more regularly compared to a line that currently has services suspended on it!
    Posted: 07 Jan 2007 03:35
      K160 Minister for Railways

    Location: Bendigo
    I was just wondering, does Lilydale still have a back platform? If so, providing Connex don't use it, that could be very handy to the YVTR as it could be used instead of the main platform.  Smile
    Posted: 08 Jan 2007 16:58
      T356 Chief Train Controller

    Location: KILSYTH, VICTORIA
    The back platform at Lilydale is used by connex every day (maybe not Sunday's). This problem is years down the track and can be dealt with then, who knows, mabe we could run a track into the goods shed road with our own platform and we won't tie up the connex tracks.
    Posted: 08 Jan 2007 18:16
      VBAndy Chief Commissioner

    There isn't enough room in the yard for a run-around loop. Also where would you put the line to enter the yard? You'd have to use the mainline somewhere.
    Posted: 08 Jan 2007 19:12
      youngsun Beginner

    Great to see imporovement.
    Keep up the great work.
    Posted: 08 Jan 2007 22:53
      Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

    Location: Lilydale, Vic
    Best to think outside the square and rule out using the existing 2 platforms. A weekend timetable has a train arrive on one platform and another train departs the other platform a few minutes later. Stabling yards are also fully used.

    What about creating a new platform and runaround road out near the goods shed? The track could run on the north side of the sidings but would have to swerve around the substation. Only issue would be the bridge over the creek - a new one would possibly have to be built beside the current original bridge. The new alignment could meet the original line about where the level crossing is.

    It would also allow a connection to the main line at the up end of the new platform for rolling stock transfers. Passengers could transfer from the existing platform by exiting the down end ramp which already runs to the carpark.

    Posted: 08 Jan 2007 23:02
      RM62 Deputy Commissioner

    I don't really think you need all of that.
    And constructive of a new yard would be both expensive and would need planning permits.

    You could extend the Goods road and build a platform there and use the next road down for a runaround loop.

    Anyway, trains to Lilydale would not really attract many passengers, nor is that stretch of the line particularly special scenery-wise.

    Running trains from Flinders Street to Healesville however would be great, even if very difficult operation-wide.

    You could have a railmotor service from Healesville to Lilydale to change with a spark would be easier, cheaper, and would not require a runaround loop.
    Posted: 09 Jan 2007 12:42
      Railfan9949 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere between Gembrook to Healesville to Seymour to Maldon
    Or "push pull" operation... so it would be J 516, consist, visitor steam locomotive
    Posted: 09 Jan 2007 18:31
      VBAndy Chief Commissioner

    Just repeating myself. Its so much easier to stay away from the "Big boys" on the mainline/metro line. You would save yourself so much time, effort and money for other more profitable ventures if you didnt go all the way to Lilydale.
    Posted: 09 Jan 2007 19:23

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