Revesby quadruplication construction progress

 
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
MX newspaper in an unsigned article scoops the pool to announce the immenance of the Kingsgrove Revesby Quadruplication Clearways Project.

This project complements the Revesby Turnback (see other thread) to separate longer and shorter distance trains on the so-called east Hills line.

It is dues for completion in about 2010.

The East Hills turnback would remain for occasional emergency and track possession use. One wonders if the line would be renamed the more appropriate Revesby Line?

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  Riccardo Minister for Railways

Location: Gone. Don't bother PMing here.
Or just the Stills. People might think there is a giant distillery at the end Wink

But anywya it is no longer the Stills, goes to Holsworthy and Glenfield too

Sydney has some of the clunkiest line names I've seen.

How bout something interesting for a change?

The Wolli Creek line? (but that name is the junction station, could confuse)

The Salt Pan Creek line - more interesting but too long?

Be good if they could do some proper renaming - Dumbleton and Salt Pan Ck reinstated as stations.

Or you could even call it the Main South, which it is becoming, and rename Sefton the "Former Main South" and Fairfield "The Original Main South"
  blakjak Chief Commissioner

Location: Sid-en-aye, Ostralya

Or you could even call it the Main South, which it is becoming, and rename Sefton the "Former Main South" and Fairfield "The Original Main South"
"Riccardo"



So long distance trains heading south would go via the currenty named 'Eat Stills' line???
  Riccardo Minister for Railways

Location: Gone. Don't bother PMing here.

Or you could even call it the Main South, which it is becoming, and rename Sefton the "Former Main South" and Fairfield "The Original Main South"
"Riccardo"



So long distance trains heading south would go via the currenty named 'Eat Stills' line???
"blakjak"


More and more are, apparently. They can avoid the mess thaat is Lidcombe
  TheLoadedDog The Ghost of George Stephenson

Be good if they could do some proper renaming - Dumbleton and Salt Pan Ck reinstated as stations.
"Riccardo"

Don't forget Herne Bay.

Actually, the entire newtwork could do with some creative renaming, but that's probably enough for its own thread.
  TheLoadedDog The Ghost of George Stephenson

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Some typos are too good to edit.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Work on a trench for the foundation of the Quad sized retaining wall looks well advanced.
  Simes_mk2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
On the subject of the name of my line - from what I see and read - looks like it might become "the airport line" ?? with the signs displaying "airport and east hills line" being altered ?

I went out to Riverwood the other day, didn't notice much in the way of construction activity or indeed preparation. Although the 2 existing tracks seem to be further advanced than the 2 original tracks from Kingsgrove to Turella were back when the first stage was done over 5 years ago.

Concrete sleepers to Narwee along with LED signals like further up the line, last time I went further than Kingsgrove there were still the old school signals and not much work on the track itself had been done. So I wonder whether a 1 month shut down will occur this time around for the Kingsgrove to Revesby section....
  Mario922 Assistant Commissioner

Simes - the project has only just been approved, so of course, there is very little work observed at the moment. Expect to see movement later this year (hint hint to the photographers out there....get some "before" photos now....)

However, the LED signals between Beverly Hills and Narwee (which you have observed) are actually new signals (moved from their old position) which occured about 1 or 2 years ago - and their location was designed around the new project (so these new signals wont have to be moved during the new work)

You will also notice the Belmore Road Bridge at Riverwood (rebuilt a couple of years ago) actually has room for 2 new tracks on either side of pillars (its just been filled up with bricks - but its actually empty), so there are one or two little things that have already been done with this project.

One thing that is very interesting in the documents for the project is that most road bridges will be "chopped and rebuilt" over a handful of weekend night works (progessive) - however, a request has been made that King Georges Road is to remain open throughout the project - which will be an interesting challenge - but im sure they can do it.
  dirge Chief Train Controller

Location: 33° 58' 6" S; 151° 7' 28" E
A request has been made that King Georges Road is to remain open throughout the project - which will be an interesting challenge - but im sure they can do it.
"Mario922"


A wise request, methinks. I'd hate to see how the local roads would cope if that particular bridge was closed for any length of time. It's bad enough during normal off peak.

I doubt the bridge at Kingsgrove would cope too well with trucks and the regular car traffic detouring through Kingsgrove, on top of the cars and buses that Kingsgrove Road normally sees.

I'm not sure that Narwee's underpass would be tall enough to take the trucks, and the roads leading through Narwee are hardly arterial.
  Skindog the Hawk Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wollongong
One thing that is very interesting in the documents for the project is that most road bridges will be "chopped and rebuilt" over a handful of weekend night works (progessive) - however, a request has been made that King Georges Road is to remain open throughout the project - which will be an interesting challenge - but im sure they can do it.
"Mario922"


Knowing the area fairly well, whilst King Georges Rd may remain open, will there need to be any building resumption (I'm thinking the last building on the south-western side of King Georges Road might be the candidate), or is there sufficient space for the express down line?

This project will definitely make for some interesting times on the line...8)

SD.
  Structurefire Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney
it's sure going to be interesting though, seeing all the new foundation work being laid etc

what i'm most intrigued about is the new bridge they're going to build at Revesby. the current bridge is right in the centre of the rail corridor, and they recon they're going to built a parallel bridge on the southern side, but there are houses there and not much room at all to fit it...
  Mario922 Assistant Commissioner

Knowing the area fairly well, whilst King Georges Rd may remain open, will there need to be any building resumption (I'm thinking the last building on the south-western side of King Georges Road might be the candidate), or is there sufficient space for the express down line?

This project will definitely make for some interesting times on the line...

SD.


Not many buildings are going at all -  there is enough room for the new line - even through Narwee  where the embankment gets very steep near the station - although, a few substations along the line are set to go as well as the usual "pipe/power" line relocations etc.

Most of the old bridges have to be rebuilt - and the local line is also going to be rebuilt through some sections..

As i said, it will be interesting couple of months coming up later this year/next year when the work gets started.

And for those still dont know what the heck we are talking about:

http://www.raillink.nsw.gov.au/ArticlePage.aspx?PageID=1006
  SAB Chief Train Controller

As Mario922 has correctly stated, work on the Quad has not commenced yet. Work that can been seen around Revesby is the Stage 1 turnback works. Once the quad is complete, Revesby will have a double centre turnback arrangement, with the fast tracks on the outside (with platforms).
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney


what i'm most intrigued about is the new bridge they're going to build at Revesby. the current bridge is right in the centre of the rail corridor, and they recon they're going to built a parallel bridge on the southern side, but there are houses there and not much room at all to fit it...
"Structurefire"


Both new tracks will be on the south side on a new Down Island Platform. The existing Island platform will become the Up Island. There will be a slew between Padstow and Revesby to make things line up.
  Bwana Chief Commissioner

I think Structurefire is suggesting that there isn't enough room south of the existing lines to put in 2 new lines in on the eastern side of the River Road. I can see another line could be put in if a retaining wall is built, but I tend to agree 2 might be pushing it. It may be possible to move the existing tracks further north but I would imagine a fairly sharp swerve just east of the bridge would be necessaryto line up the lines with the existing bridge if that was to happen.
  edison Chief Commissioner

Re:  Herne Bay ---> Riverwood

TLD™ reminds us of this name change.  Was it (as I believe) the only name change that was done for social status purposes? In the post-WW2 period, this area had a large Housing Commission population, and developed a bad reputation for anti-social, low-status behaviour.  So it became Riverwood, and, hey presto, everything was OK.

(Ref. Railway Quiz, revised edition April 1962, p. 68.  Not mentioned in the July 1957 edition)
  Bwana Chief Commissioner

Re:  Herne Bay ---> Riverwood

TLD™ reminds us of this name change.  Was it (as I believe) the only name change that was done for social status purposes? In the post-WW2 period, this area had a large Housing Commission population, and developed a bad reputation for anti-social, low-status behaviour.  So it became Riverwood, and, hey presto, everything was OK.

(Ref. Railway Quiz, revised edition April 1962, p. 68.  Not mentioned in the July 1957 edition)
"edison"


And gee didn't that work well - What does Riverwood have a reputation for now? - a large Housing comission area with anti-social, low status behaviour.

At least one more name change for social status purposes - Lucas Heights -> Barden Ridge, done to remove association with the nuclear reactor and the tip.
  SinCity Assistant Commissioner

Location: Maitland
You cant escape the tip stench at night and most definitely not the nuclear fallout haha
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney

At least one more name change for social status purposes - Lucas Heights -> Barden Ridge, done to remove association with the nuclear reactor and the tip.
"Bwana"


Yes, yes, yes.

A nuclear reactor in a different suburb is much safer than one in the same suburb!!!
  edison Chief Commissioner

On this deviation from the original intention of the thread, I was thinking of name changes (for socio-whatever reasons) of suburbs that had railway stations.  
Some stations changed from the name of the nearby main road, to the name of the actual suburb, one e.g. Bay Road ---> Waverton.  Much more meaningful.
  Simes_mk2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
With the bridges - I reckon what was done for Kingsgrove - Turella will be repeated on Kingsgrove - Revesby (where a road goes over the line).
I know the bridges at Bardwell Park, Bexley Nth and Kingsgrove were open for most of the time during construction.

The median on the Bridge of King Georges Rd will probably come up and say 2 lanes closed at a time? Work through the night and cover the holes with road plates in time for the AM peak?
They'll bore piles, pour concrete in, create a box on top, then dig up the road (a depth about equal to the thickness of the deck), lay the bridgedeck, add the black top.
A few weeks later the people responsible for levelling out the rail corridor will come along and dig out the soil from underneath the new bridge lengths.....
  Structurefire Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney
I think Structurefire is suggesting that there isn't enough room south of the existing lines to put in 2 new lines in on the eastern side of the River Road. I can see another line could be put in if a retaining wall is built, but I tend to agree 2 might be pushing it. It may be possible to move the existing tracks further north but I would imagine a fairly sharp swerve just east of the bridge would be necessaryto line up the lines with the existing bridge if that was to happen.


thats what i was saying. the only way i can see it all fitting is if the current alignment is moved north a bit, or if they build one track on either side of the current bridge
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
I think Structurefire is suggesting that there isn't enough room south of the existing lines to put in 2 new lines in on the eastern side of the River Road. I can see another line could be put in if a retaining wall is built, but I tend to agree 2 might be pushing it. It may be possible to move the existing tracks further north but I would imagine a fairly sharp swerve just east of the bridge would be necessaryto line up the lines with the existing bridge if that was to happen.


thats what i was saying. the only way i can see it all fitting is if the current alignment is moved north a bit, or if they build one track on either side of the current bridge
"Structurefire"


It is very hard for an amateur to tell if extra tracks are possible, that is the problem with back of the envelope (BoE) planning, but rest assured that two extra tracks including an Island platform are possible at Revesby on the South side.
  Structurefire Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney
so you assume because of my low post count i'm an amateur. thanks

the only way i can see it fitting is if they build a massive retaining wall almost against the fences of the houses, which seems a little dangerous to me

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