New V/Line livery.....

 
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

If I recall correctly it has a problem with it it's engines. But I may be wrong.

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  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Hi there,

Great news for V/Line and gunzells today with Sprinter 7007 passing it's test today Very Happy But it has a couple of minor faults that will be repaired by tomorrow. 7015 has returned to traffic for tonights peak but will change over with 7007 tomorrow. 7007 will be in service for tomorrow's PM peak.
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
During my visit to Melbourne today I noted P18 with the repainted H set in platform 2 around 1500. The livery doesn't look too bad in the flesh, was just annoyed I didn't have my camera with me.  Sad
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

7007 did not return to Southern Cross today. It is expected to tomorrow. (but can't be said for sure) On the other hand 7015 did go into Newport today for the new livery and refurbishment to commence.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

As soon as news is posted more news breaks  Razz

7015 returned ex Newport to Southern Cross ex Newport and will be part of the 1710 Seymour. Tonight.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Honestly, you don't have to post something everytime a Soup Can sneezes!

Lay off a bit with the news breaks.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Honestly, you don't have to post something everytime a Soup Can sneezes!

Lay off a bit with the news breaks.
"TheRev"
Fair comment. In this case I wish to say that some of the previous info was incorrect Wink
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Your info? Why am I not surprised.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Your info? Why am I not surprised.
"TheRev"
Honestly if you don't want to read it you don't have to. I am just trying to inform people! Does that really bother you? If so don't read my posts. Then everybody will be happy in a way.
  NR77 Chief Commissioner

Your info? Why am I not surprised.
"TheRev"

Someone's not up themselves...(no offence but that's what it sounds like)
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Look, I've noticed in quite a few threads that the information forthcoming from Vlocity160 is inaccurate and is either corrected by others, or himself. While I'm not out to have a jab at him, I feel something needs to be said.

It's quite simple: If you are not 100% sure about the information you are supplying, don't post it. It saves the forum being cluttered up with junk - or spam if you prefer that term. It also saves you the embarassment of others correcting you and the reliability of the information you supply is respected a bit better and people are more receptive to it.

It also seems apparent that everytime a random Soup Can or Mon'strocity passes, sneezes, farts etc. there is a full report on where it's going and why.
While this may entertain a very small minority, it gets rather boring for the rest of us who trawl through here very quickly.
  ashbeer Assistant Commissioner

The new Sprinter livery looks absolutely awful I have to say. What were they thinking? Plus I can't figure out why they used yellow as well.
  BGOTraveller Junior Train Controller

Yellow was applied to fit in with new Federal Goverment Safety standards you will find the whole Fleet including the VLocitys will eventually have yellow on the front of them
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Yellow was applied to fit in with new Federal Goverment Safety standards you will find the whole Fleet including the VLocitys will eventually have yellow on the front of them
"BGOTraveller"
I hope not! That would look atrocoius!!
  BGOTraveller Junior Train Controller

It is not a matter of Hope Not all Rail will need to Have a Portion of Bright Yellow and White on the front Hence the look of 7007 this is australia wide Pacific National are already on to it Just look at their colour scheme for their Loco's
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
It is not a matter of Hope Not all Rail will need to Have a Portion of Bright Yellow and White on the front Hence the look of 7007 this is australia wide Pacific National are already on to it Just look at their colour scheme for their Loco's
"BGOTraveller"

Until they all get black as the ace of spades. They really need to look at cleaning them if thats the reason why they have gone for that scheme.

Edit: This Post is aimed at Pacific National Locos for the Yellow fronts.
  BGOTraveller Junior Train Controller

Why do you think they are starting to put a white stripe on the front of the N Class to comply with new safety standards
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
This is from a 2005 draft standard on "National Rollingstock Lighting and Visibility Standards":

10.1 - Locomotives should have livery applied that has areas of high visibility colour applied to the ends and sides of the vehicle.

10.2 - A forwards facing area of high visibility colour shall be applied the leading ends of locomotives.

10.3 - The colour of high visibility areas should be one of yellow, orange, orange-red or red within the CIE chromacity co-ordinates of Table 1 [can supply if needed]

10.4 - Table 1

10.5 - The colour of the high visibility areas should have a minimum luminance factor, when new, as detailed in Table 2.3 of AS/NSZ 1906.4

10.6 - Suitable AS 2700 high visibility colours include:
10.6(a) - Yellow Y11 to Y15, Y22, Y23, Y26
10.6(b) - Orange X11, X12, X13, X24
10.6(c) - Red R11, R12, R13, R22, R23

10.7 - The forward facing area of colour shall be not less than 1 square meter in area with a minimum continuous height or width of 0.6m

10.8 - The forward facing area of colour may be divided by the features of the front of the rollingstock if necessary.

10.9 - Each section of a divided colour surface shall have an uninterrupted area of 0.4 square metres with a minimum continuous height or width of 0.6m

10.10 - If the front of the rollingstock slopes from vertical or is rounded, the area of coloured surface and its vertical and/or horizontal dimensions shall be increased in order to produce the equuivalent required areas and dimensions when projected onto a vertical plane.

10.11 - The high visibility colour areas shall be cleaned and maintained to prevent obscuring or fading below half their new luminance factor.


Whether or not this is changed since then is unknown, but we can observe the main point, 10.3. This is the reason for yellow and red on the front of 7007 and presumably other refurbed Sprinters.

It was pointed out by mjja on VICSIG (where this was originally posted, I should note) that the yellow may not meet the requirements of 10.7. Whether or not that's changed, or if the red (i.e. all of the colour patches) are counted together, I couldn't tell you.

It's also notable that N473 with the white stripe doesn't actually comply with these regulations, at least not in this draft form, as white isn't covered in 10.3, and I doubt the stripe is 1m^2 in size as per 10.7. I also doubt that N-class red is of sufficient luminance to comply either.
The odd thing is that find find N473 to be more visible front-on than 7007 - I think it has something to do with the contrast of the reflective white on red, rather than just a huge bit of yellow.
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

N473 was also fitted with modified Key  Switch Driver Console - which has recently been removed.

No standards are being followed  -as N 460 which wasc ex a CCO the other week was outshopped without any livery modification, as was A 60.

The first loco to be repainted in any form should be N 468 but not until Early - Mid  2008!!
  NR77 Chief Commissioner

I have several pictures here of the new livery:



  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Thanks for sharing NR77. Smile
  Flagstaff Red Afro

Location: Eaglemont, Hursty line, Melbourne.
The Sprinter livery (nicknamed the McSprinters) doesn't look as good as the previous but then again the colour variation can bring some nice photos.
"Flagstaff"

McSprinters, eh?

How did they get that name?
"574M"

From the red, yellow, and white colors on the front livery matching the colours of a certain global food chain.
  cookie930 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Spencer Street Station (Not SCS)
7007 sighted at Southern Cross Station at 11:00am today.
  Haydenthegunzel Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Why do you think they are starting to put a white stripe on the front of the N Class to comply with new safety standards
"BGOTraveller"

The only one I have seen like that is N473
Didn't they modify the livery on 7007 to differ slightly from the first, 7002?
  Junior Rodgie Dodgie

Location: Allansford
Just been told N473 ran the 1708 out of warrnambool tonight with a Altered scheam on the cow catcher. Orange in the middle. Has anyone seen this befor

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