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VRfan
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:16 pm
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If there was a need for some narrow gauge locos over in WA, couldn't CFCLA simply obtain/build some narrow gauge bogies for their T and TL classes?
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M636C
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:25 pm
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| VRfan wrote: | | If there was a need for some narrow gauge locos over in WA, couldn't CFCLA simply obtain/build some narrow gauge bogies for their T and TL classes? |
Of course that is possible: however, the T class might not fit the WAGR narrow gauge loading gauge. Assuming that four wheel bogies were used, these locomotives would have a relatively high axle load by narrow gauge standards and would not be allowed on all lines.
These are not very powerful locomotives, 875 HP for the T and 1310 HP for the TL (although TL 152 is limited to 1125HP by its small generator).
ARG already have the equivalent of a TL, 1251 formerly BHP DE5. This is confined to shunting at Forrestfield because it has only four axles, compared to six axles on the otherwise similar A class.
CFCLA probably have enough work for these locomotives on the standard and broad gauges, and the coupler height might have to be altered for narrow gauge operation in WA.
QR are providing ARG with a number of additional locomotives, so the WA NG shortage might not last.
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pm1225
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:32 am
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| VRfan wrote: | | If there was a need for some narrow gauge locos over in WA, couldn't CFCLA simply obtain/build some narrow gauge bogies for their T and TL classes? |
Why recycle obsolete crap nearly 50 years old? Lease new fuel efficient locomotives over 15/20 years at the expiration of the lease hand back the locomotives. This is fully tax deductable and a smart operator would leae on a power by the hour type scheme with service and maintenance also covered as part of the lease.
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KngtRider
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:50 pm
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| Quote: | | Why recycle obsolete smeg nearly 50 years old? |
Africa, China, India, Former Soviet and Latin America have been buying new of late.
South America even has recent narrow gauge GE and EMD products, some of which even have rather unusual and unique bogies, meter gauge in some instances I think.
The Kazak experience has been doucmented here previously, American upgrades
There was even a 1600MM SD70M produced, VR livery anyone ?
Note this photo by Jay Brooks - three 'different' loading gauges together at the EMD London plant
http://www.s107684498.onlinehome.us/jay/EMC.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSNRvcM4uvo
In this youtube, the consist contains Export units for the UK and Algeria.
Whilst the Algerian units in this consist are not NG, locos of the same style have been exported to India, IIRC India was one of the first countries to buy export GT46, the photos of the Indian units in EMD livery are quite well known
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