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How did it stay upright?

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Expost Train Controller   Joined: Sep 24, 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:52 am
I dont know if these pics have been seen on here, but some pics posted on another forum I frequent. The wheel/axle wear photos down the bottom are pretty spectacular, and I wonder how the wagon didnt derail completely, but stayed upright for so long that so much damage was one.











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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:08 am
Don"t want to be a stick in the mud Expost, but the link you have posted takes us to a page that ask's us to log in, as we are not members of this site to some it is impossible, unless we join it, which some of us may not want to!

If you post to a site like that it should go straight to whatever you want us to see not to a log in page, thanks! Cool



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:25 am
Expost wrote:
I dont know if these pics have been seen on here, but some pics posted on another forum I frequent. The wheel/axle wear photos down the bottom are pretty spectacular, and I wonder how the wagon didnt derail completely, but stayed upright for so long that so much damage was one.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1271194#1271194

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Yes, I think David Peters is right, Expost

If you are asking this community a question, then it best to link to the image directly, or provide it some other way.



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:30 am
Apologies for that, I will edit the link to the pics directly.

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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:06 pm
No worries I thought it best to politely point this out rather than have someone jump down your throat about it!

Anyway back to the subject, I would think the word we are looking for would be sheer luck that it stayed upright.

I remember a story in Trains Magazine a few years back about a tank car that came into a yard still coupled to a train, but minus a bogie on one end. The shelf type couplers were all that was holding it up. The bogie was finally located from memory 30 or more kilometre's away on the side of the track! Again sheer luck! Cool



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:13 pm
And another pic, of a different incident. I dont know how old these incidents are, so may have already been posted.



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:04 pm
For those that know the Picton area. Back in 1987 (as I was on Station Assistant duties when it happened) a loaded Coal Train leaving the Up Refuge heading for Rozelle/Enfield derailed and stayed upright eventually being stopped on the second (right hander) Maldon curve. It only stopped after the signaller noted the track failures behind the train and contacted the crew. That was about 2 km of track and sleepers damaged then. The wagons never separated and stayed upright Surprised .



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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:51 am
And then, is this possible, or possibly a photochop.



Although now I see its been linked from here anyhow.

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April 1st already ?



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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:33 am
It is possible and its a result of bad driving they are called wheel burns.



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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:47 am
A train burn out Twisted Evil Laughing



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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:08 am
it looks as though some crane driver that had it miraculously lined it up perfectly and dropped an 0-6-0 tank engine on the track!



 
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:48 pm
Actually T251 that is not that far from the truth, you would be right if you said the wheel spacing either suits a GE or GM loco bogie!

It is what can happen when a train stalls on a grade and the driver keeps notching up the throttle, but the train does not move. After a while it simply grinds out a hollow in the rail, of course in this case it is grossly exaggerated, but this is really the photo of the damage done, it has been posted on here before somewhere!



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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:15 pm
a similar thing happened when my pop was working melbourne yard about 50years or so back, they had H220 on a test run and the throttle jammed wide open so they put her between two other locos and let her grind away till it ran out of steam



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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:44 am
territoryexpress wrote:
a similar thing happened when my pop was working melbourne yard about 50years or so back, they had H220 on a test run and the throttle jammed wide open so they put her between two other locos and let her grind away till it ran out of steam


Did they just. They must not have been too bright back then as I would think it easier to just centre the reverser.

Seriously though, I believe they used to do something similar with the S class. Grease the rail, put the 'S' between other Locos and let her rip. I believe they were balancing the drivers. Anyone with something to add feel free. I think there is even a photo or two kicking around.



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