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steven_h
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Location: Canberra, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:22 pm
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Just a slight amount of curiosity...
The Fuel train (after the evening Explorer leaves) pulls out of (one of) the sidings between Canberra Station and the old PetBarn. It pulls onto the main line till the trucks clear the points... then reverses all the way back into the station?
Anyone able to shed light as to why it doesn't just pull straight out of the siding and continue straight out of Canberra?
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Fireman Dave
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:16 pm
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Saves a freaking lot of walking.
To do as you have suggested, the 2nd person would have to get a staff and get the release for B frame (where the yard joins the main line) from the box, then walk to B frame to set the road up, then after the train is on the main line walk back to the box and take the release back and reset the road for the mainline, and finally walk back to the engine.
I think I got all the important steps in here. All up it would take an extra 40 minutes to an hour.
Dave Malcolm
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konkos
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:58 pm
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About covers it Fireman dave. We actually tried it once many years ago but yes, we ended up letting the shunter do all the walking and we just sat on the loco. Mind you when we still shunted North neck we had to shuffle things around and then do South neck.
konkos
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Fireman Dave
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:48 pm
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| konkos wrote: | About covers it Fireman dave. We actually tried it once many years ago but yes, we ended up letting the shunter do all the walking and we just sat on the loco. Mind you when we still shunted North neck we had to shuffle things around and then do South neck.
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It acctually makes sence to jump from the freight yard if a shunter is around. It's not acctually that far to walk (platform-box-B frame and back), and the train can get away quicker.
Dave Malcolm
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konkos
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:54 pm
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Exactly me thinks. I mean David Walsh (Walshie) would never get out and do it. In the OLD days (SRA - PTC), we would prepare the train for the incoming crew and sometimes all they had to do is hop on and go.
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Alcoking
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:52 am
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| Fireman Dave wrote: | Saves a freaking lot of walking.
To do as you have suggested, the 2nd person would have to get a staff and get the release for B frame (where the yard joins the main line) from the box, then walk to B frame to set the road up, then after the train is on the main line walk back to the box and take the release back and reset the road for the mainline, and finally walk back to the engine.
I think I got all the important steps in here. All up it would take an extra 40 minutes to an hour. |
To save time the second person would open the release straight after the explorer left and make there way up to the frame. Meanwhile the driver has already pulled up as close as possible then walked over and set the road out of the yard and into the south shunting neck, thus saving the need to wait for a staff a this stage. The driver returns to there cab and pulls the train up the southern neck until the second person calls clear of the yard points. The second person then restores the yard points for the main and calls the driver back into the platform. In the good days one could ride the last wagon and it was a real quick exercise but in todays society full of incompetence it is nessisary to walk back. Once the driver is clear of the south neck points he returns them for the main and restors the release, thus giving the poor bloke on the ground half a chance to get some ground on the train. Yet again the train sets back until the locos are behind the home/starting signal at which point with 20 wagons on you are close to the end of the road. The second person returns to the staff hut and seeks permission to depart and is now able to withdraw a staff as the explorer is within Queanbeyan yard limits (if not already departed) and returned the staff. Second person sets the road accordingly and climbs aboard for a well earned rest. Point of the story, lots of walking involved for the second person......
Gone to the Pilbara!
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steven_h
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:45 am
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Gotcha, thanks for your information on this!
btw... was nice to see a but of colour with 8152 behind X53 this morning.
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