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PhilChorusch
Chief Train Controller
Joined: Dec 09, 2007 Last Visited: Nov 19, 2008 Location: Goulburn NSW
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:56 pm
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Hi guy's,
This is just a fresh new thread about my route
but before I can get started I would like to say
to everyone that I am sorry for bringing up
old stuff about copyright and I wanted to let
you all know that I have removed all
files except for that files I already had
and that came installed within the game
I hope you guy's can forgive me anyways
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ARG706
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Joined: Jun 03, 2005 Last Visited: Nov 21, 2008 Location: City of doomsayers
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:57 pm
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Phil, you would be better off leaving the current one locked, and unlocked when you have some genuine progress to put up.
So far you have brought out the pessimists, with not much to contradict them
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BuddyALX
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Joined: May 21, 2004 Last Visited: Nov 21, 2008 Location: South Australia.
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:52 pm
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Phil.
I can tell you that even though I am pissed off at some people (Not you, of course) for their attitude in the other thread, I have something to say.
Some of the MSTS routes were modelled on what they looked like in the past. These include Coals to Newcastle and Northern Illawara, so there is no need for using their stuff. You already have permission for Gavin Mclaughlan to use files from his Coal Road line as well as Mike Simpson's permission to use files from his Blue Mountains line.
I still think that is not enough. You're going to need the Sydney Harbour Bridge, a modern version of Central station as well as Southern Cross Railway staition. Not to mention other locations that are along the line in the present era.
Now. That isn't an easy task, while I know that someone has modelled a Sydney Harbour bridge as well as a modern version of Central, I haven't seen a modelled Southern Cross Railway station.
I'd suggest a think about what special places are along the line and to find out if they have been modelled or not. Most of them might not be.
Cheers.
Buddy.
Daniel Hall.
MSTS STA Driver,

Last edited by BuddyALX on Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:58 am; edited 1 time in total
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ARG706
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:16 pm
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I can guarantee 99% of the buildings you will need to form a detailed route in these areas will NOT be previously modeled and it will up to you or any 3d artists you recruit to ensure meet the requirements.
I built 25 buildings for just one town a month or two ago, and even that takes patience. You'll need thousands of them for a route of this size unless you want a half detailed route
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PhilChorusch
Chief Train Controller
Joined: Dec 09, 2007 Last Visited: Nov 19, 2008 Location: Goulburn NSW
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:54 pm
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Thanks guy's
I honestly thank you for your support I do know who has the
Sydney Harbour Bridge but as for the rest of the
objects I would't have a clue
Like you guy's said I need to ask around the first person
I have asked is Chris Jennings and maybe he
can help me out
At the moment I am still working on the marker files
I have at least 10% or 25% of them done and
to be honest with everyone has told me it's going
to take time to do but I won't give up but anyway
I am still looking at late next year or 2009 for release
wish me luck
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ARG706
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:03 am
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How many mkr files are you doing? You only need one!
What are you actually including in your mkr files?
Don't speculate on release dates until final beta testing is done. It will drive you into the ground. My idea simply is when it's done, it's done.
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billybaxter
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Joined: Mar 01, 2003 Last Visited: Nov 17, 2008 Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:11 am
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| Quote: | | Some of the MSTS routes were modelled on what they looked like in the past. |
Exactly why I, and many others enjoy these routes.
| Quote: | | These include Coals to Newcastle and Northern Illawara, so there is no need for using their junk. |
Show us something better. Show us how to do it properly if those routes are such junk. I suppose you think the Adelaide suburban route is 'junk' as well, as it is set in the past.
| Quote: | | I still think that is not enough. You're going to need the Sydney Harbour Bridge, a modern version of Central station as well as Southern Cross Railway staition. Not to mention other locations that are along the line in the present era. |
Indeed he will, a couple of thousand at least. Every major station and any significant buildings (shops at Wallenbbeen, Glenreagh, Narrabri......). The absence of any of these will be noted and commented on. Not to mention bridges, roads etc.
I don't think anybody is being pessimistic, merely warning somebody who's biting of more than he can chew. There are a few routes around (Indian and Chinese I think) of the length you are contemplating. Download them and have a look at the quality, or lack of, to get an idea of whta you're getting in to. You'll see they look far less than 'haf finished'.
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PhilChorusch
Chief Train Controller
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:57 am
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That sounds abit better "When it's done it's done"
There are so many marker files that have to be done
I am following the track with google maps
and using google earth for stations, tunnels, etc.
for these type of marker files
If most of you wanted to know where I am starting from
in route editor I am starting from Newcastle
as it is mostly the half way mark on the railmaps
but as for the marker files I have started
from Northgate, Brisbane QLD
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ARG706
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:07 pm
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| PhilChorusch wrote: | That sounds abit better "When it's done it's done"
There are so many marker files that have to be done
I am following the track with google maps
and using google earth for stations, tunnels, etc.
for these type of marker files
If most of you wanted to know where I am starting from
in route editor I am starting from Newcastle
as it is mostly the half way mark on the railmaps
but as for the marker files I have started
from Northgate, Brisbane QLD |
What exactly are defining with your mkr files? Just track or other things as well?
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PhilChorusch
Chief Train Controller
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:15 am
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I am using the marker files for track information and station
points as well as names I was thing about starting
to build the Cityrail network first as it was built first
in Australia
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Chris Anderson
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Joined: Nov 12, 2003 Last Visited: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Arriving Somewhere, but Not Here
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:20 am
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Seriously, you haven't been banned yet? How much of this work will actually be yours and how much will you be stealing from others? Even if you say that you'll be doing all the work yourself, how can we believe you.
You've already proved that you can't be trusted...
Mr. Anderson... surprised to see me?
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PhilChorusch
Chief Train Controller
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:34 am
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All the work will be done by me Chris I just sent you a PM
to explain about the copy of the cd of your route
to Russell Watts
if you didn't get it I post it here for everyone
yes I was dishonest with you but it won't and will not
happen again at least I didn't ask for
any money what so ever
PM to Chris:
Hi Chris,
It's Phil here I wanted to persional message you about the copy I done for Russell XXXXXX he really wanted the copy so I did
it free of charge for him I paid for postage
and gave him a free cd
here is a copy of his emails he sent to me:
truckdriver1@XXXXXXX.com.au from email address
MESSAGE 1
Hi Phil,
I was wondering if you could do a copy of the above route on cd for me if I send you a blank cd with the postage for it to be returned. I do not expect you to pay for the cd or the postage. Please reply to this email address with your address if you are able to do it for me.
Regards
Russell
MESSAGE 2
Thanks heaps for that Phil, next week will be great. No I'm sorry I don't live in Sydney now, I have moved to Melbourne
My details are:
Russell XXXXX
13 XXXXXXX St
Endeavour Hills
Vic 3820
No I don't have a copy of Russell Beer's Main Southern Route, I missed that one as well.
Regards
Russell
Well I could have made a prophet of the cd copy well I didn't
did I his user name on here is XXXXXXX or something like that
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helterskelter
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:55 am
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| Quote: | Right to Privacy
- You will not violate a person's privacy by publishing against another user's will, information that is private and personal.
Copyright
- Asking for information on material that is known to be copyrighted is often against the law, and providing it almost always is. Any posts containing such material will be edited or deleted completely.
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Shot in the foot again.
You are getting deeper in the mire.
That was not on to publish private details.
The above quote is pasted from the forum rules, in case you haven't read them.
Of cource you haven't read them have we?
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KRviator
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:24 am
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THREAD LOCKED.
When we lock a thread, it STAYS locked. Don't be a smart-asre and open a new thread.
And if anyone publishes another members personal details, including their address without authorisation, the warning will be swift and severe.
Trainee Driver, Pacific National
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