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Colhad
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Joined: Apr 29, 2004 Last Visited: Oct 30, 2008 Location: Watching 2300 class hauled coalies out at Wulkuraka.
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:22 am
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At the time I sort of didn't really let it get to me, but as I think about it more it's a shame that society has lowered in standard to this degree.
Today I was out taking photos, enjoying my hobby and minding my own business.
A young girl in a car, probably late teens yells out to me "Take a picture of the sky", she's just bein a smart@#$% of course. Then she yells "you suck".
What sort of society are we becoming, why can't I do something I enjoy without being vicitmised. I used to cop that sort of thing at school, I was put down alot and told I was stupid. I have a disability, so I guess people see that and like to insult me any way.
I wouldn't put that past this "girl", I use that term loosely when describing this so called "girl". She wws in the back seat, I couldn't see anyone else in the car cause all the windows were up. My guess probably with a group of "friends" off to get drunk at a party. She was doing it to impress her mates.
I am sick to death of people insulting one another, just because they don't see that we have different interests in life. I have my camera around my neck all the time when I'm out, particularly when near railway tracks. I guess there are some narrow minded people who would see me as being weird because of this.
It just rubs me the wrong way when I can't do something I like doing without being told "you weird, you suck," or whatever other comments people make.
I guess I'm rambling on a bit, but society is going down quickly, by and large people these days lack manners and don't accept that people have different interests/hobbies.
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FieldShunt74
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:47 am
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A teenager in a car with a bunch of their mates is largely immune from inhibitions of mortality, responsibility or respect for others. The world passing by the open window holds no claim on them, it is merely present for their entertainment and edification.
Or: Dude, don't worry about it, kids in cars are all a bunch of hundred metre heroes. They're only picking on you to make themselves feel better about being insecure and shallow with an uncertain future. They don't call you names for your benefit, it's all about them. They wouldn't do it on their own, only in a group.
It only hurts if you let it.
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wrongroad
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:44 pm
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| FieldShunt74 wrote: | | A teenager in a car with a bunch of their mates is largely immune from inhibitions of mortality, responsibility or respect for others. The world passing by the open window holds no claim on them, it is merely present for their entertainment and edification. |
I found that out when they were throwing eggs at people from the car. They were just kids, with a very short term focus. Very well said, FieldShunt.
Coldhad, forget it.
They are yesterday's heroes, and only for themselves.
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Colhad
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:15 pm
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The other day when I was at Strathpine, there were three young fellas sitting on the steps of the bridge where I wanted to take photos.
They noticed I carried my camera around my neck and one of them asked me what do I take pics of, I said trains. One of them asked me if I'd heard of the Valley Rattler, do I like the Tilt Train and such.
They all claimed to be railfans but I sort of had my doubts. As I walked away, I heard them say something then they all laughed, so I do think they were "BS'n".
Because of them I missed a 2800 hauling containers towards the bridge.
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dan
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Joined: May 07, 2004 Last Visited: Nov 21, 2008 Location: East Gippsland, Victoria
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:50 am
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The way i see it, as long as your out having fun doing what you like then i say bugger everyone else that wants to knock you and have a go at you. Although i see your point it is hard to ignore it sometimes. Personally i dont really tell anyone of my hobby, except family and close friends that already know.
As for the 3 boys, dont worry to much, thy must of had some knowledge of the trains in the area to start a convo like that. Any way keep up the good work!
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Joined: Jan 25, 2005 Last Visited: Nov 22, 2008 Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:50 pm
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To Colhad (and others): don't waste a second of your life concerning yourself about what others may or may not be thinking about you.
The problem you have is esteem ..... "self-esteem". Nurture and build it. When that is done you won't give a damn about any detractors.
Rate yourself as 'important'
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FieldShunt74
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:07 pm
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| 2001 wrote: | | The problem you have is esteem ..... "self-esteem". Nurture and build it. When that is done you won't give a damn about any detractors. |
It's a chicken and egg thing though. Might be hard to convince yourself concurrently with everyone else putting you down. You still need to be somewhat swayed by others or you're closing in on being a sociopath or autistic or something. Certainly, if one could master one's self it would be a great achievement but you'd want to use that power for good, not evil.
Is difficult.
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Colhad
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:29 am
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| FieldShunt74 wrote: | autistic  |
That's exactly what I have, Aspergers Syndrome to be more precise. It does affect me socially, I am always wanting to fit in with society but my disability makes it difficult.
I'm at a point in life where I'm not sure where I'm heading. I'm hoping photography may be something I have a future in. Because of this, I take photography very seriously.
I have signed up at cameralabs.com, I always ask questions over there and I feel I am learning a fair bit from that site. I'm going to try and join some sort of camera club, which would be so beneficial in that I could learn so much more.
I feel another way I will better myself is by taking pics of other things besides trains, it would teach me how to use lighting, and the most of all get the most out of the camera.
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David Peters
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:03 pm
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Colhad the best idea is to say you are a photographer and leave it at that!
Also the lad that spoke to you could have a genuine railway enthusiast although being with his friends would have dulled his sense somewhat. I always try to make friends with anyone who shows an interest in what I am doing while photographing, but be warned you have to have a bit of a sixth sense about some of them, most though if they are by themselves will open up a bit to you and you may even get some friends out of it, on the friendship side of it explain early to them about your condition and hopefully they will not be put out if something happens when they are with you or something.
Do not go by looks though, I have met bikies that look like they would shoot their own mother if asked, ask me at the side of a rail line what time is the steam train coming along here and then promptly produce a camera to record the event.
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Valvegear
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:04 pm
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Colhad, I understand where you're coming from, but think of it this way . . . Did you know this "girl"? Do you value her opinion? Is she likely to influence your future?
I guess that you answered " No ' to those questions, so here's one for you. . . Why worry about what some ratbag thinks?
Your friends, relatives etc think well of you, and those are the opinions that matter.
I agree that society suffers from these misfits who find it necessary to put people down, but just remember that you are above that sort of nonsense.
On these occasions, a superiority complex is essential. Keep taking all the photos you like, and ignore the idiot fringe - after all you are doubtless exhibiting talents that they don't have.
Cynic - a man who smells flowers and immediately looks for the funeral.
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David Peters
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:23 pm
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Colhad, Valvegear is absolutely right in his post, take heed of it as it is the best advice on here, I have heard in a long time!
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Colhad
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:16 am
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| Valvegear wrote: | Colhad, I understand where you're coming from, but think of it this way . . . Did you know this "girl"? Do you value her opinion? Is she likely to influence your future?
I guess that you answered " No ' to those questions, so here's one for you. . . Why worry about what some ratbag thinks?
Your friends, relatives etc think well of you, and those are the opinions that matter.
I agree that society suffers from these misfits who find it necessary to put people down, but just remember that you are above that sort of nonsense.
On these occasions, a superiority complex is essential. Keep taking all the photos you like, and ignore the idiot fringe - after all you are doubtless exhibiting talents that they don't have. |
Thanks ValveGear, I will remember this advice I am a person who needs a lot of encouragement.
This is a rail forum though, I think we should be talking more about this great hobby rather than talking about the negatives in life.
Rail is a positive thing, brings nothing but enjoyment (except when our favourite train/loco is withdrawn, then it becomes sad).
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Valvegear
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:04 am
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G'day Colhad . . . I agree that we like talking about our hobby, and we do love all the positives, but negatives appear, as you have found. If we can encourage and support a fellow-enthusiast who has had a hard time, it is a legitimate use of the forum. As far as I'm concerned, say what you feel; you are among friends.
Cynic - a man who smells flowers and immediately looks for the funeral.
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David Peters
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:52 pm
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I'll second that Valvegear, speak you mind, you are among friends!
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