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PhilChorusch
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Location: Goulburn NSW
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:55 am
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Hi guy's,
I need to know where do you get the information to build models? Is there a website to go too? I have tried to find some bloody information so I can build the Sydney Harbour Bridge, Sydney Central Station, Trains, Other Stations, Buildings, and Other Bridges etc, etc. I cannot find anything on the internet to build these models any help would be greatful and I am not looking for stupid tutorials...
Reguards PhilChorusch 
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squeekywheel
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:55 am
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Those stupid Tutorials as you refer to is how the rest of us learnt to do it.
If you are not prepared to do those tutorials which teach you the basics of 3D moddelling no amount of advise here can help you.
This type of discussion can and does in some cases fill a manual the size of the yellow pages.
I think perhaps Phil that if you are not prepared to put the time in like the rest of us that maybe you should give up any thoughts of 3d modelling.
Its not that hard really it just has a steep learning curve.
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Scott_AUS
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:47 pm
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| PhilChorusch wrote: | any help would be greatful and I am not looking for stupid tutorials...
Reguards PhilChorusch |
If you don't want to use a "stupid tutorial" - I'm not sure what you are asking for. It's the only way to learn - none of us have perfected osmosis to pass on the skills.
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PhilChorusch
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:37 pm
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I don't mean to call the tutorials stupid but there boring me I've done the house tutorial with TSM but what I really want is to build my own models not someone elses that's all...
Would anyone know where I can find more tutorials for TSM, GMAX and other 3d modelling software? Please?
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squeekywheel
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:37 am
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If they are boring you you are not Learning.
You should be learning a new trick or way of doing something every time you do a tutorial then do it again and experiment with different ways like making the same shape out of a sectioned part primitive and manipulate the points to get a similar shape.
Fail to do this and learn these lessons "whats the use" you are just wasting your time.
Tell me what did you learn building the house in TSM?
I can think of several things that were in this tutorial alone.
There is nothing stopping you scaling your own plans (yes that is in a tutorial in TSM) and applying the wagon or loco tutorial to your own model.
Think outside the square. TSM is so easy my 12 year old builds his own models for my route and they are quite presentable , It cant Be that hard! 
You gotta start small or everthing will go to smeg and work your way up.
It took me over 12 months before I could build a loco you just cant expect to pick this up in a week.
take this advise or give up as this sort of thing cant be rushed.
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PhilChorusch
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:44 pm
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| squeekywheel wrote: | If they are boring you you are not Learning.
You should be learning a new trick or way of doing something every time you do a tutorial then do it again and experiment with different ways like making the same shape out of a sectioned part primitive and manipulate the points to get a similar shape.
Fail to do this and learn these lessons "whats the use" you are just wasting your time.
Tell me what did you learn building the house in TSM?
I can think of several things that were in this tutorial alone.
There is nothing stopping you scaling your own plans (yes that is in a tutorial in TSM) and applying the wagon or loco tutorial to your own model.
Think outside the square. TSM is so easy my 12 year old builds his own models for my route and they are quite presentable , It cant Be that hard!
You gotta start small or everthing will go to smeg and work your way up.
It took me over 12 months before I could build a loco you just cant expect to pick this up in a week.
take this advise or give up as this sort of thing cant be rushed. |
I do believe that I learnt something from the house tutorial such as understanding the way a 3d model is constructed, measurements, and a lot more interesting stuff it was very easy to follow instructions not like GMAX software I couldn't work out anything with GMAX at all even when I asked people here on Railpage Australia™ and I still couldn't work it out so I gave up on using GMAX I guess GMAX software wasn't meant for a learner to start off but TSM is the best for me but some things I just can't work out how to build I'm sure the more practice that I have the better I would be I tried to build one of the trains I said about in my last post but I couldn't work out the bogie and the coulper that's the only thing I am confused with...
Reguards Phillip
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superheatedsteam
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:06 pm
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gmax is like a Ferrari. It can be a bit harder to get used to than a Fiat Bambina but once you can handle it you will get where you want to faster and the chicks love it. 
There are a number of TSM tutorials at train-sim.com. Search the Tutorial section for the word TSM.
Get ShapeViewer if you don’t already have it. Look at 3D models others have built and press the backspace key to see them in wire frame mode. A 3D model in the nude is a wondrous sight. See how other modellers have built their models. See what shapes they have or may have used. See how other modellers have used and joined simple boxes and cylinders together to create a 3D model representing a loco/wagon/building/bridge/coupler. Then use those techniques when you are building your own models.
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PhilChorusch
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:30 am
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| superheatedsteam wrote: | gmax is like a Ferrari. It can be a bit harder to get used to than a Fiat Bambina but once you can handle it you will get where you want to faster and the chicks love it.
There are a number of TSM tutorials at train-sim.com. Search the Tutorial section for the word TSM.
Get ShapeViewer if you don’t already have it. Look at 3D models others have built and press the backspace key to see them in wire frame mode. A 3D model in the nude is a wondrous sight. See how other modellers have built their models. See what shapes they have or may have used. See how other modellers have used and joined simple boxes and cylinders together to create a 3D model representing a loco/wagon/building/bridge/coupler. Then use those techniques when you are building your own models. |
YOU GUY'S ARE LEGIONS. I honestly never thought about ShapeViewer or the tutorials on Train-sim.com. I will see what I can find
Thanks guy's
Reguards PhilChorusch
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