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Asciano share price in Tatters

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KRviator Moderator Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:34 am
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The knives have come out last few days at pacific national there is blood on the floor ,it is rumoured 260 middle managers have gone or going by friday they gutted the management ,there only 4 business groups and no separate management groups all business groups have to be self sufficient,,also talk there will be business group to be partly or completely sold off
cheers
I don't often believe rumours, but in this case, I do. Mark Rowstrom (sp?) sent out an email to everybody by mistake and got the helpdesk to "recall" it. I don't remember too much about its' content, but it did talk about different business stratigies along the lines of the above. There's also been a half-dozen or so middle managers get the bullet up here this week. They were simply told they're now redundant, pack your things.

But if they really want to save money, listen to the crews. We whinge and complain about operational inefficiencies all day. We're the ones that have to do the hard yards to cover the mistakes of those we report to. And make people accountable for their mistakes.



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nutbagg Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:25 am
KRviator wrote:
long end wrote:
The knives have come out last few days at pacific national there is blood on the floor ,it is rumoured 260 middle managers have gone or going by friday they gutted the management ,there only 4 business groups and no separate management groups all business groups have to be self sufficient,,also talk there will be business group to be partly or completely sold off
cheers
I don't often believe rumours, but in this case, I do. Mark Rowstrom (sp?) sent out an email to everybody by mistake and got the helpdesk to "recall" it. I don't remember too much about its' content, but it did talk about different business stratigies along the lines of the above. There's also been a half-dozen or so middle managers get the bullet up here this week. They were simply told they're now redundant, pack your things.

But if they really want to save money, listen to the crews. We whinge and complain about operational inefficiencies all day. We're the ones that have to do the hard yards to cover the mistakes of those we report to. And make people accountable for their mistakes.
Doomsday! Beginning of the end. Knee jerk reactions like this do nothing except save a few dollars in wages, meanwhile the workers see their bosses getting the boot and morale reaches new lows. I'd expect to see a 'raft of new initiatives' soon along with cost cutting measures to improve the 'bottom line'. Wagon scrapping should recommence soon too.
KR when does management ever listen to the peasants? They're now all in damage control covering their rears waiting for the next blood letting.
And if I were you I'd be contacting my stockbroker monday morning too.
Not sure if there is any truth to the rumor but after the first half results showed Portlink to be a poor performer it was said that Asciano are looking to get rid of it.



Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:39 am
nutbagg wrote:
if I were you I'd be contacting my stockbroker monday morning too.


Nutbag, will you be buying or selling on Monday?
 
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:36 pm
ShowMeTheMoney wrote:
nutbagg wrote:
if I were you I'd be contacting my stockbroker monday morning too.


Nutbag, will you be buying or selling on Monday?
If you think its a good buy go ahead, if you think transport stocks are a bad buy because of oil prices sell up or don't buy. I'm not here to provide you with investment advice only my opinion.
Disclamer: I do not own any AIO stock, nor intend too. There have I made it clear now?



Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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ParkesHub Chief Commissioner   Joined: Jul 29, 2003
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:49 pm
Down to A$2.79 at close today.
 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:46 pm
ParkesHub wrote:
Down to A$2.79 at close today.


I know how being negative is anti-social, but it wont stop me me doing it! Here goes: And Then????
 
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:59 pm
ParkesHub wrote:
Down to A$2.79 at close today.

How many shares did you grab PH ?

Would this have anything to do with the parent company seeling of Virgin Blue shares ?  
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:23 am
Shacks wrote:
ParkesHub wrote:
Down to A$2.79 at close today.

How many shares did you grab PH ?

Would this have anything to do with the parent company seeling of Virgin Blue shares ?
Toll is giving its Virgin shares to its shareholders. Asciano and Toll do not have anything to do with each other (supposedly).



Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:11 am
Shacks wrote:
ParkesHub wrote:
Down to A$2.79 at close today.

How many shares did you grab PH ?


None, mate, my conscience forbids me to get involved with anything with a Toll history. Besides, if Bill Gibbins found out I had Asciano shares, he'd smash me!

Shacks wrote:

Would this have anything to do with the parent company seeling of Virgin Blue shares ?


As nutbagg says, it's a different company but you can never tell, I guess.
 
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mjja Sir Nigel Gresley   Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:12 pm
Tell Bill you're trying to get a majority shareholding so you can kick Rowsthorn out and put him in charge of PN. Laughing

Seriously, I wonder how Bill would go heading up a rail company...



Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"

Michael Angelico
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:36 pm
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Tell Bill you're trying to get a majority shareholding so you can kick Rowsthorn out and put him in charge of PN. Laughing

Seriously, I wonder how Bill would go heading up a rail company...


Seriously, I did say that to him once during the big Toll -vs- Patrick spat. He just went all red in the face and glared at me. After I took a step back he said: "You have to be F***IN JOKIN' !! "

I then left the room! Laughing Laughing
 
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:49 pm
ParkesHub wrote:
mjja wrote:
Tell Bill you're trying to get a majority shareholding so you can kick Rowsthorn out and put him in charge of PN. Laughing

Seriously, I wonder how Bill would go heading up a rail company...


Seriously, I did say that to him once during the big Toll -vs- Patrick spat. He just went all red in the face and glared at me. After I took a step back he said: "You have to be F***IN JOKIN' !! "

I then left the room! Laughing Laughing


Never mind in charge of a railway - we need him in charge of the state



YM Mundrabilla

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Reality has been omitted for clarity.
Why is it that there are so many in high places who prefer activity to achievement?
 
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:57 pm
YM-Mundrabilla wrote:
ParkesHub wrote:
mjja wrote:
Tell Bill you're trying to get a majority shareholding so you can kick Rowsthorn out and put him in charge of PN. Laughing

Seriously, I wonder how Bill would go heading up a rail company...


Seriously, I did say that to him once during the big Toll -vs- Patrick spat. He just went all red in the face and glared at me. After I took a step back he said: "You have to be F***IN JOKIN' !! "

I then left the room! Laughing Laughing


Never mind in charge of a railway - we need him in charge of the state


Mate, I reckon his head would come clean off his shoulders if you said that to him!!!

He's running a mine up in the NT at present.
 
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mjja Sir Nigel Gresley   Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:01 pm
I might have known he couldn't stay retired...



Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"

Michael Angelico
President, Smart Passengers Inc
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:05 pm
mjja wrote:
I might have known he couldn't stay retired...


...and he's shipping the magnetite by Freightlink using LFX containers!
 
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