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awsgc24
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:16 pm
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| fast01 wrote: | It has ruined it with a fairly big impact:
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Quite nice pic. Could we have one pointing the other way (Westwards) showing the Medium and Low Speed aspects and route indicators?
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fast01
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:22 pm
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Ask and ye shall receive, Courtesy or a Mr Rocket's fotopic site. 
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thelastname
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:15 pm
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Thanks vlinecars.
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awsgc24
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:49 pm
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Very nice pics. Informative too.
Some puzzles:
The Automatic signals have the lower light staggered to the left, unlike NSW where they are staggered to the right.
The yellow/orange/amber LED lights often look red.
Dual gauge concrete sleepers observed.
Does Victoria number Up signals with even numbers and Down signals with odd numbers?
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SteamtoStay
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:21 pm
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| awsgc24 wrote: | The Automatic signals have the lower light staggered to the left, unlike NSW where they are staggered to the right.
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Does Victoria number Up signals with even numbers and Down signals with odd numbers? |
The signal is an auto whether it is staggered left or right, as long as it is staggered.
Yes, signals are numbered even - UP and odd - DOWN. The same applies to Train Description numbers i.e. X000 is the first UP Sandringham to Flinders.
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NR77
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:30 pm
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| awsgc24 wrote: | | Dual gauge concrete sleepers observed. |
The problem with dual guage concrete sleepers is?
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42101
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:32 pm
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| NR77 wrote: | | awsgc24 wrote: | | Dual gauge concrete sleepers observed. |
The problem with dual guage concrete sleepers is? |
Where did he mention there was a problem with them..he did not he observered they were there..try reading posts properly kid.
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jakar
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:33 pm
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| 42101 wrote: | | NR77 wrote: | | awsgc24 wrote: | | Dual gauge concrete sleepers observed. |
The problem with dual gauge concrete sleepers is? |
Where did he mention there was a problem with them..he did not he observered they were there..try reading posts properly kid. |
Instead of waiting for awsgc24 to respond to NR77, you yet again couldn't help yourself and felt the need to butt in as the almighty, all knowing 42101 and belittle someone.
If you actually did read awsgc24's post you would have seen him write 'some puzzles' then list four items, one of which was that he observed that there are dual gauge concrete sleepers. NR77 is simply asking why is that puzzling, what's the problem with concrete dual gauge sleepers. awsgc24 could have possibly worded his post a little better, but given they way it is worded, NR77's question is sensible and justified.
Now, where is that thread about why people stay away from Railpage Australia™...... 
Jakar
In case you're wondering, jakar is not my name.
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NR77
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:56 am
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| jakar wrote: | | 42101 wrote: | | NR77 wrote: | | awsgc24 wrote: | | Dual gauge concrete sleepers observed. |
The problem with dual gauge concrete sleepers is? |
Where did he mention there was a problem with them..he did not he observered they were there..try reading posts properly kid. |
Instead of waiting for awsgc24 to respond to NR77, you yet again couldn't help yourself and felt the need to butt in as the almighty, all knowing 42101 and belittle someone.
If you actually did read awsgc24's post you would have seen him write 'some puzzles' then list four items, one of which was that he observed that there are dual gauge concrete sleepers. NR77 is simply asking why is that puzzling, what's the problem with concrete dual gauge sleepers. awsgc24 could have possibly worded his post a little better, but given they way it is worded, NR77's question is sensible and justified.
Now, where is that thread about why people stay away from Railpage Australia™™......
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Yes thankyou Jakar that is exactly what I meant.
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awsgc24
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richiebogie
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:18 pm
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A few months back I found that one supplier of dual gauge concrete sleepers is Austrak. A kindly contact answered my questions:
> Currently, we produce the 1600/1435 mm dual gauge sleepers as gauge convertible. This allows the purchaser (rail network owner) to either set up the sleepers with either rail gauge (1600 or 1435 mm) or with three rails giving dual gauge. They can always be converted to the required configuration at a later date. This is all achieved on the one sleeper type with changes in the loose fastening components only.
>> Does the e-clip in a dual gauge setup between the 2 closest rails work
ok, or do you use a different design? ie. Does the second rail act as the 'heel seat' as per the following diagram?
http://www.pandrol.com/html/products/eclip.htm
>The dual gauge/gauge convertible product we currently produce (and are about to start re-manufacturing) has been widely used in South Australia with some use in Victoria. As per the Pandrol fittings. They are a special design for the two closest rails.
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wongm
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:31 pm
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| awsgc24 wrote: | Nice to see dual gauge concrete sleepers  How do they fit the clips or whatever in between the rails, when the rails are so close together  |
Like this:
Used for SG/BG, on the new Corio Independent Goods Line at Geelong. Click for bigger...
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richiebogie
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:27 am
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So Marcus, does a standard e-clip fit in between the 2 rails, or something special?
Do you have a close up photo of the concrete sleepers set up?
It looks like the 165mm between standard gauge and broad gauge is just wide enough for an elegant solution.
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wongm
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:53 am
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| richiebogie wrote: | | Do you have a close up photo of the concrete sleepers set up? |
The North Shore Road level crossing has been laid with as dual gauge, but I don't have a close up photo at the moment.
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awsgc24
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:27 pm
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The photo shows two Pandrol Fastclips on the outer sides of the pair of rails! In between there is a slot which perhaps takes a lefthand and righthand pair of e-clips
It is a good thing that Engineer Sheilds didn't choose the earlier Irish gauge of 5' 2", as there would not have been enough room for dual gauge today.
(Note: The original gauges in Ireland were 4'8.5", 5'2" and 6'2", but these were unified to 5'3".)
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