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vlocity160
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:51 pm
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| V/Line wrote: | V/Line’s Geelong passengers are now able to see the biggest passenger trains in Victoria in response to the line’s patronage boom.
Seven-carriage VLocity trains are now running on two morning peak and two afternoon peak services between Geelong and Melbourne.
Six carriage, 420 seat VLocity trains did run on these peak Geelong services. The extra carriage will boost seating to 496, or 76 extra seats per train.
Platforms at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne stations are currently being lengthened to allow V/Line to run the super-sized trains.
The seven-carriage VLocity trains are running Monday to Friday on the:
• 06:50 Marshall to Southern Cross
• 07:17 South Geelong to Southern Cross
• 16:40 Southern Cross to Marshall
• 17:29 Southern Cross to Marshall
Temporary arrangements, including an extra conductor, will be in place to allow the seven-carriage VLocities to stop at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne until works to extend platforms at these stations are completed.
See below for the media release from the Minister for Public Transport.
Friday 7 November 2008
SUPER-SIZED TRAINS FOR GEELONG TO EASE THE SQUEEZE
Victoria’s busiest and most popular regional rail line will be the first to carry the longest passenger trains in the state in response to the booming patronage.
Public Transport Minister Lynne Kosky said the first seven-carriage VLocity train will run on the Geelong line from Monday November 10 on four peak hour services every weekday.
“We know that some services on the Geelong line are very busy and this seven-carriage train will add an extra 76 seats meaning there’s now seats for 496 passengers for every service,” Ms Kosky said.
“Over the past two years, people have embraced extra services and cheaper fares in record numbers and it is pleasing to see that our investment in regional rail services continues to serve an ever growing number of commuters.
“In past financial year, more than 11 million trips were made on the V/Line rail network and more than three millions trips were made on the Geelong line.”
Platforms at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne stations are currently being lengthened to allow V/Line to run the super-sized trains.
The seven-carriage VLocity trains will run on the:
• 06:50 Marshall to Southern Cross;
• 07:17 South Geelong to Southern Cross;
• 16:40 Southern Cross to Marshall; and
• 17:29 Southern Cross to Marshall.
Temporary arrangements, including an extra conductor, will be in place to allow the seven-carriage VLocities to stop at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne until works to extend platforms at these stations are completed.
V/Line General Manager Ursula McGinnes said V/Line had worked to provide more capacity on trains where possible.
“With fuel prices rising, we’ve seen unprecedented growth on all of our trains,” Ms McGinnes said.
“We’ve manoeuvred the fleet to provide more carriages to some services that are consistently full.
“With these new seven-carriage trains, people should start to see a gradual increase in capacity on some of our peak trains.”
The changes are part of the new regional timetable taking effect from Sunday 9 November to coincide with a new metropolitan train timetable which will provide 328 new and extended services across the network.
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http://www.vline.com.au/home/news/en/20/1549/article.aspx
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wattsy
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:37 am
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| vlocity160 wrote: | | V/Line wrote: | V/Line’s Geelong passengers are now able to see the biggest passenger trains in Victoria in response to the line’s patronage boom.
Seven-carriage VLocity trains are now running on two morning peak and two afternoon peak services between Geelong and Melbourne.
Six carriage, 420 seat VLocity trains did run on these peak Geelong services. The extra carriage will boost seating to 496, or 76 extra seats per train.
Platforms at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne stations are currently being lengthened to allow V/Line to run the super-sized trains.
The seven-carriage VLocity trains are running Monday to Friday on the:
• 06:50 Marshall to Southern Cross
• 07:17 South Geelong to Southern Cross
• 16:40 Southern Cross to Marshall
• 17:29 Southern Cross to Marshall
Temporary arrangements, including an extra conductor, will be in place to allow the seven-carriage VLocities to stop at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne until works to extend platforms at these stations are completed.
See below for the media release from the Minister for Public Transport.
Friday 7 November 2008
SUPER-SIZED TRAINS FOR GEELONG TO EASE THE SQUEEZE
Victoria’s busiest and most popular regional rail line will be the first to carry the longest passenger trains in the state in response to the booming patronage.
Public Transport Minister Lynne Kosky said the first seven-carriage VLocity train will run on the Geelong line from Monday November 10 on four peak hour services every weekday.
“We know that some services on the Geelong line are very busy and this seven-carriage train will add an extra 76 seats meaning there’s now seats for 496 passengers for every service,” Ms Kosky said.
“Over the past two years, people have embraced extra services and cheaper fares in record numbers and it is pleasing to see that our investment in regional rail services continues to serve an ever growing number of commuters.
“In past financial year, more than 11 million trips were made on the V/Line rail network and more than three millions trips were made on the Geelong line.”
Platforms at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne stations are currently being lengthened to allow V/Line to run the super-sized trains.
The seven-carriage VLocity trains will run on the:
• 06:50 Marshall to Southern Cross;
• 07:17 South Geelong to Southern Cross;
• 16:40 Southern Cross to Marshall; and
• 17:29 Southern Cross to Marshall.
Temporary arrangements, including an extra conductor, will be in place to allow the seven-carriage VLocities to stop at Marshall, South Geelong and North Melbourne until works to extend platforms at these stations are completed.
V/Line General Manager Ursula McGinnes said V/Line had worked to provide more capacity on trains where possible.
“With fuel prices rising, we’ve seen unprecedented growth on all of our trains,” Ms McGinnes said.
“We’ve manoeuvred the fleet to provide more carriages to some services that are consistently full.
“With these new seven-carriage trains, people should start to see a gradual increase in capacity on some of our peak trains.”
The changes are part of the new regional timetable taking effect from Sunday 9 November to coincide with a new metropolitan train timetable which will provide 328 new and extended services across the network.
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Personally, it's done bugger all- last night on the 1729 Marshall we still had people standing/sitting on the floor. it's just created more standing room space if anything.
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Mickelaar
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:12 am
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| wattsy wrote: | | Personally, it's done bugger all- last night on the 1729 Marshall we still had people standing/sitting on the floor. it's just created more standing room space if anything. |
All you need is an extra 40 - 50 people on that train, and the 70 seats will seem irrelevant. Increased patronage is obviously still in effect. The more carriages that are placed on the network, the more trains placed on the track, the better the price is, the more expensive the fuel is, the more people will come to use the service.
Hence why the extra seats are doing bugger all. That you see.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:16 am
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And if they did nothing you would have a sook too
If you are so good at fixing all the problems overnight why didn't you put in for the tender
be grateful that someone actually cares enough to try and reduce the impact on your service
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:49 pm
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Personally, it's done bugger all- last night on the 1729 Marshall we still had people standing/sitting on the floor. it's just created more standing room space if anything.[/quote]
I reckon 76 ppl per train would disagree with you there. So do you suggest that V/line.....remove one carriage per train?
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aussiebbq
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:44 pm
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Some people will never be happy, think what would happen if there was not 7 cars and was only 4, more people would be standing yes?. I think the people sitting in the extra seats would be happy.
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The more carriages that are placed on the network, the more trains placed on the track, the better the price is, the more expensive the fuel is, the more people will come to use the service.
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From a business point of view that is not a bad thing, if I owned V/line (before you say it I know it is govt. owned) I would be a very happy man.
[quote"wattsy"]Personally, it's done bugger all- last night on the 1729 Marshall we still had people standing/sitting on the floor. it's just created more standing room space if anything.[/quote]
But you are still on the train, if it was a bus you would not be able to get on, no standing on a bus.
| knowitall wrote: | | And if they did nothing you would have a sook too |
Hell Yeah he would, would be saying "Why don't they add more carriages"
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Deanodriver
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:57 pm
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| wattsy wrote: | | Personally, it's done bugger all- last night on the 1729 Marshall we still had people standing/sitting on the floor. it's just created more standing room space if anything. |
Should have been on the 1640 then. 
That said, they said that there were 46 seats free in the 3VL, and had standees at the back of the train (in a 2VL). It's unfortunate they said that AFTER leaving North Melbourne.
| Mickelaar wrote: | | The more carriages that are placed on the network, the more trains placed on the track, the better the price is, the more expensive the fuel is, the more people will come to use the service. |
True, although fuel seems to be coming down in price, but that certainly hasn't affected patronage. Not that that's a bad thing, though.
I know from my experiences I have seen very few standees on the earlier of the 7 car VL runs (0650 up and 1640 down), but I haven't been on the 0717 up or 1729 down yet.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:54 pm
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Watch a Geelong flagship leave Southern Cross. The front set has a handful of empty seats, the middle set has a couple of standees, and the rear set is chockers with people occupying every possible crevice. If society wasn't so lazy and actually walked up the train to the leading set, there wouldn't be anywhere near the problems. In the meantime, I'm quite happy to ride the flagships and always get a seat.
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Mickelaar
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:23 pm
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| r707 wrote: | | Watch a Geelong flagship leave Southern Cross. The front set has a handful of empty seats, the middle set has a couple of standees, and the rear set is chockers with people occupying every possible crevice. If society wasn't so lazy and actually walked up the train to the leading set, there wouldn't be anywhere near the problems. In the meantime, I'm quite happy to ride the flagships and always get a seat. |
EXACTLY! Not only is the select overcrowding occuring because of where they get on. But also because of where they get off.
I find that A lot of people coming home (From Melbourne to Geelong), who get off in the city (Geelong), ride up front, as that's where the main entrance is. Especially those who transfer onto a bus. Or more towards the centre if that particular train regularly stops on platform two, as that's where the stairs are.
All comes down to lazy. And the fact that we are creatures of habit.| r707 wrote: | | From a business point of view that is not a bad thing |
Then where is the issue? You have justr contradicted yourself there buddy.| r707 wrote: | | But you are still on the train, if it was a bus you would not be able to get on, no standing on a bus. |
Nah, there's been many a time where I have caught a bus (not recently) and had to stand. Quite regularly I have seen, and been on a bus where it is at standing capacity. Granted I have not caught a but in about 10 years now, so maybe that has changed.
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