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The Vinelander
Chief Commissioner
Joined: Mar 28, 2006
Last Visited: Dec 1, 2008
Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
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fogcv
Chief Train Controller
Joined: Dec 06, 2006
Last Visited: Dec 1, 2008
Location: The Burnley Group
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SPSD40T2
Chief Commissioner
Joined: Oct 01, 2006
Last Visited: Nov 9, 2008
Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!
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Kerpal
Train Controller
Joined: Jul 17, 2005
Last Visited: Dec 1, 2008
Location: Waiting for an express that'll never come ...
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:19 am
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Prepare to be disappointed!
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Speed
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Joined: Mar 19, 2007
Last Visited: Dec 1, 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:09 pm
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It seems that both of the controversial "big-ticket items" have been removed, one of which was a tollway and the other of which was a railway. There were definitely some lobbyists who paired them so as to ensure that both attracted equal controversy and either both or neither were built.
This leaves two road improvements and an increase in bus frequencies on some routes.
| Quote: | | public-private partnerships across the train network in which developers build new railway stations in return for the right to build above the stations |
I assume that this is a way of achieving cheap grade-separations.
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SPSD40T2
Chief Commissioner
Joined: Oct 01, 2006
Last Visited: Nov 9, 2008
Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:20 pm
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| Quote: | | public-private partnerships across the train network in which developers build new railway stations in return for the right to build above the stations |
Geez..Hope Rush and Humprhies dont find out about this bit !! 
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Greatfox
Junior Train Controller
Joined: Jun 20, 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:27 pm
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I've never heard of this tunnel, is it in use at the moment?
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spottyrahr
Chief Commissioner
Joined: Jan 17, 2003
Last Visited: Nov 26, 2008
Location: St Albans Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:46 pm
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| Greatfox wrote: | | I've never heard of this tunnel, is it in use at the moment? |
It's the tunnel for the freight line. How is it underused? Even if it is, it's stupid to combine freight and suburban lines. Oh the delays....
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fogcv
Chief Train Controller
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Location: The Burnley Group
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:46 pm
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| Greatfox wrote: | | I've never heard of this tunnel, is it in use at the moment? |
Currently used for interstate passenger services and freight.
The Ghost of (Sir) John Monash (Circa 1931)
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SPSD40T2
Chief Commissioner
Joined: Oct 01, 2006
Last Visited: Nov 9, 2008
Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!
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bramt
Chief Train Controller
Joined: Aug 30, 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:00 pm
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The article says 60 new trams.
In this article a few weeks ago:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24304466-2862,00.html
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(...) Stephen Moynihan, a spokesman for Transport Minister Lynne Kosky, said the Government had ordered 100 new low-floor trams to be delivered from 2010. |
So we're going to get 160 new trams. Great! I don't think so. They haven't ordered ANY new trams yet, or they would have announced it. And in the last few weeks, what with all the booming patronage they decided they only needed 60 rather than 100, and they STILL haven't called for tenders!
Edit: The Age article must be wrong as well, because the DOT website says | Quote: |
Future deliveries
A further 100 new low-floor trams will be delivered from 2010-11 as the first stage of a $500 million long-term purchase program.
The new trams will replace the current Z Class fleet as well as provide for increased patronage growth. |
It has said that for a few years now...
Last edited by bramt on Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:03 pm; edited 1 time in total
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MelbourneCity
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Last Visited: Nov 29, 2008
Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:01 pm
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A new 22km tollroad on the peninsular is believed to be in this package.
Im not going to loose any sleep waiting for this statement. It'll be another cop out.
The 4th transport statement since Labor was elected. What projects have actually been delivered? NOT MANY!
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574M
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Location: Shepparton
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:52 pm
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Labor are bereft of common sense if they are delivering new roads in this the age of rising fuel costs, climate change and carbon-footprint consciousness.
They will be roundly condemned by future generations.
A new tollway down the Peninsula... hopeless.
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calembeena
Station Staff
Joined: Mar 23, 2008
Last Visited: Dec 1, 2008
Location: Oakleigh
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Taitset
Chief Commissioner
Joined: Jun 25, 2003
Last Visited: Nov 29, 2008
Location: Platform 14, Wattle Glen. (Near the clocktower)
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:00 pm
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| calembeena wrote: | | SPSD40T2 wrote: | | spottyrahr wrote: | | Greatfox wrote: | | I've never heard of this tunnel, is it in use at the moment? |
It's the tunnel for the freight line. How is it underused? Even if it is, it's stupid to combine freight and suburban lines. Oh the delays.... |
Yep..someone's really thought this one through huh !!!
Again shows the ineptitude of the wallies in charge..they simply havent a clue about the resource at hand..or how it works ( or could )
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Suburban means that the trains stay in Melbourne. I would imagine that the Bunbury St tunnel will be used to segregate VLine and Connex trains - a good use of existing infrastructure. |
Although seperating sparks and regional trains would provide huge benifits, I don't think running them through Bunbury street is the answer. It would only take one 1500m superfrieghter to throw off a whole lot of V/Line paths during peak.
The way it was written in the article made it sound like making better use of Bunbury street was an alternative to the Footscray-Caulfield tunnel... Obviously incredibly well researched!
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