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The Man in Blue
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Joined: Jun 03, 2005 Last Visited: Nov 21, 2008
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:48 pm
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QR narrow gauge bogie coal waggon spotted travelling north from coffs harbour 12.30 pm today. Seen going UNDER the railway bridge crossing the Pacific Highway. Seems that it is now cheaper even for trains to travel by road. Does this mean I can soon put wheels on my car and drive on the disused railway lines? Now the road system should be put under the same economic rationalism and start to run at a profit or be shut down. RTA should be re couping a HUGE sum from road trains like this to offset the damage to our new $250 million 10 km section of Pacific Highway that road smashing loads like this cause. QR should learn from "TOOTLE" about staying on the rails no matter what!
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bulldozed
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Joined: Jul 05, 2007 Last Visited: Nov 23, 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:06 am
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A road usage tax... perhaps something like a vehicle registration fee?
Ethan's Models
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raymond
Chief Train Controller
Joined: Sep 05, 2004 Last Visited: Nov 23, 2008 Location: Gladstone
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:35 am
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They are being trucked from Tare to Rockhampton.
They maybe to large(out of gauge) for standard gauge rails!
Tare weight is around 20 ton.
RAYMOND
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NSWRTM123
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:27 am
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I'd be more inclined to say NSW rollingstock is out of gauge for Queensland rails
Don't Make 'em like they used to
3801 limited and NSWRTM Forever
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raymond
Chief Train Controller
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:53 am
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They're are out of gauge south of Gladstone.
RAYMOND
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BL2
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:00 am
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I have seen many QR wagons transported on truck passing via the gold coast over the past couple of years
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sashmo
Chief Train Controller
Joined: Sep 24, 2003 Last Visited: Nov 23, 2008 Location: Coffs Harbour NSW
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:53 pm
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for those that have not been privy to the wagons in question here is an old image taken in Coffs Harbour 2 years ago
Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting
cheers
Sashmo
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loco2600
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:36 pm
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Seen 1 of those sitting on the back of a truck in BrisVegas a couple of weeks ago in Hamilton. Down near the cruise terminal. Didn't have the camera so I didn't stop to have a good look.
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raymond
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:33 pm
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The kwick drop door controls(white levers on doors) are out of gauge south of Gladstone and are fitted on arrival in the Callomandah wagon depo before entry into coal traffic(if coming by rail)or are fitted in Taree if coming by road,(see photo).
They load to a gross weight of 106 ton and run in tandem pairs.
RAYMOND
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arctic
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:42 pm
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So in answer to the original question it seems the reason for non-rail delivery is that they wont fit on either QR south of Gladstone or in NSW or both (aside from the track gauge).
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S301
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:13 pm
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The wagon looks very odd in terms of how it is sitting, would have thought they would used a flat bed truck, also wouldn't height be a problem up in Northern NSW?
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3foot6
Minister for Railways
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:10 pm
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Who is constructing the VCAL/VCAS Coal Wagons in Taree, NSW?
I know RACS Redbank and Bradken Karrabin are constructing them here in Queensland.
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4705-44201NB
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:32 pm
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They are being built by UGR Lansdowne just outside Taree
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Fireman Dave
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:43 am
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| S301 wrote: | | The wagon looks very odd in terms of how it is sitting, would have thought they would used a flat bed truck, also wouldn't height be a problem up in Northern NSW? |
Probably too long for a flat top. Using a turntable bolster and a jinker is a fairly common method for jobs like that.
Dave Malcolm
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EMBaldwin
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:02 pm
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| 3foot6 wrote: | Who is constructing the VCAL/VCAS Coal Wagons in Taree, NSW?
I know RACS Redbank and Bradken Karrabin are constructing them here in Queensland. |
I believe that they are still being constructed at UGR Bohle in Townsville also, with the last batch of heading south from Townsville to Mackay (where the KDD triggers are fitted) on the 9th of this month, and from Mackay to Yukan on 16th.
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