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TheDeadman
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:04 pm
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I have just been down to the NRM and they have got their new book on sale, The National Railway Museum Collection Volume 1- Wal Jack in South Australia, Adelaide. It is 134 pages and has a lot of very historic black and white pics plus some colour pics in it. The retail price is $49.95. This is a book that every SAR fan must have.
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The Deadman
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ARG706
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:54 pm
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What's it about in particular?
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David Peters
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:32 pm
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Its about SAR locomotives in the 40's and 50's mainly steam and some diesel. Most of the photographs have never been seen before in book form. For a modeller in this era it would be a must have. It is divided into the separate lines and shows lots of usual at the time and unusual shots. Well worth the money I spent on it today! Lets hope that volume 2 is as good as this! Well recommended! 
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cpdbear
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:04 pm
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It's volume 1 - Adelaide region. So it only contains photos from Adelaide and close in lines.
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David Peters
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:11 pm
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Damn good photos though cpdbear, with lots of interesting things in backgrounds as well as the main subject, my type of photos, as I said well recommened to the modeller and railway enthusiast. Can't wait for the next one!
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cpdbear
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:41 pm
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| David Peters wrote: | | Lets hope that volume 2 is as good as this! Well recommended! |
Having seen all the photos in the Wal Jack collection @ the NRM, I've got to say the later volumes will surprise a lot of people when they see some of the subjects Wal managed to capture. He really captured a wide range of locomotives with amazingly interesting backgrounds. The background is what I think a lot of modern photographers don't pay enough attention too.
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Deep Throat
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:36 am
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Having seen the other half of Wal Jack's collection I'll attest to that statement...
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bingley hall
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:16 am
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| cpdbear wrote: | | The background is what I think a lot of modern photographers don't pay enough attention too. |
Errr that's because these days there often isn't much background worth speaking of and what background there is usually detracts from the scene rather than adds to it.
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David Peters
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:48 pm
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To true that statement, Bing!
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David Peters
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:29 pm
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Too late this do gooder fence nazi has already bought his copy, in the background of some photos, not all though, are some real gems of history, look at those shots of Ovingham that show the level crossing in about 1940's, just pure history in those type of photo's. What about that photo of Happy Valley halt, it is all houses there now!
The way you put it we should only publish photos of thing's that have never been photographed by anyone before, the book would be a bit on the thinish side if we did that! Sure some may be almost duplicates of other photo's but how many younger enthusiast's and modeller's have all the books previously published on these subjects. If you look carefully at any photo you can usually see a lot, if you really care to look!
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David Peters
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:18 pm
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I think they are the outcast from putting them on to the computers and disc's at museum, yeah I have got some good ones from there as well, perhaps it might be time to do another book of photo's from the archives, as you said there are some real pearls amongst the swine!
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TheRev
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:50 am
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| ALCO957 wrote: | I found some of the shots a bit dull, and we've all seen 1000s of photos of 720's on Oakbank trains and big SAR steam at Mile End. I may be blind but I also fail to see all this remarkable action in the background others are talking about in all but a few shots. The fact that WAL was out and about with half a dozen other photographers would suggest to me that there are about half a dozen similar pics out there I've seen before. Note to all gunzels who can't go out on their own and congregate in packs, your photos will not be unique shots of history, but merely one of half a dozen pics of the same train from very slightly different angles.
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While it may seem like a bunch of common photos, how much do actually know about Wal Jack, and why he may have been with a group?
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TheDeadman
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:49 pm
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There is a very valid reason why most SAR photos in the NRM collection all look the same, it's because most photographers from 1950 onwards used the same locations all the time especially on group outings.
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The Deadman
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:58 pm
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Actually there are not that many old SAR official photo's in the archives really, we have a lot of them but private photographers have supplied most of the photo collection, Doug Colquhoun has about 8000 negatives or photos just in his railway collection that we now have so that is going to be hard to beat! A lot of older SAR photos were destroyed before we could get them, but a lot do still survive though!
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:17 pm
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That is true of course ALCO957 but the groups of photographers back then were a different breed of photographer than now, any fool can take a photo and get it on an internet site today, but back then it was everyman for himself and possibly close friends.
It has it's drawbacks yes, but it also has it's plus's, if the photo of something that is a real gem is not as good as it should be in a publication, then you can always if possible print one of the other photographers version of the same thing. So there is always the other side of the coin so to speak!
One other thing is, I do not take photo's to please the masses, I take them to please me or to help me in research for models or other things.
You may find that some things I photograph are dead boring to you, but the next person wet's himself at the very first sighting of it! Such is life! 
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