Construction Progress Southern Sydney Freight Line 2009-13

 
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Construction of the Southern Sydney Freight Line (SSFL) is now underway. Hopefully much of the negotiations and politics are now out of the way and ARTC can concentrate on building it. As arguably it is the most important National rail project I’m kicking of this new thread SPECIFICALLY to track construction progress in 2009-10. Looking forward to hard-info and contributions regarding this long promised project as it progresses Exclamation

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  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
What about a thread for the Northern SFL?
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Extensive vegetation clearance at the Cabramatta Creek Bridge at Carramar and looks like they have started building up the west shore (crushed sandstone?). Well and truely getting stuck into this section.
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
Surveyors all over the shop today on the UP side of the line from Macarthur all the way to Ingleburn.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Surveyors all over the shop today on the UP side of the line from Macarthur all the way to Ingleburn.
"42101"


A work compound is coming together between Minto and Ingleburn on the Down side near the creek crossing.

Don't know if its SSFL related  Question
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
According to the Bankstown Express of Tuesday Jan 27 p7, Southbound traffic on Chester Hill Road will be diverted to alternate routes for six months due to construction of the SSFL.

See http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Between Macarthur and Ingleburn, it looks like the outer boundary has now been marked with survey tape. Mostly along the existing fencing otherwise tied off on whatever weed/tree branch seems convenient (no pegs yet) – assume this is temporary  Wink . At Leumeah the tapes appear well out from the existing fence (maybe around 8m) so you get some idea of how much of the parking area will be resumed.

Getting stuck into earthworks on the eastern side of Cabramatta Creek at Carramar.

And Fairfield Council's noise barrier protest mock ups have been removed.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
"Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) will be undertaking construction works within the rail corridor in your area over the weekend of 7th and 8th February 2009. ...
... The activities planned for the weekend of the 7th and 8th February 2009 will involve fencing, vegetation clearing, piling and excavation and there will be truck movements through the area."

http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/_docs/pn/2009-02-07_Construction.pdf?2008
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
Will the SSFL be subject to the NSW Passenger priority principles.
How long before Railcorp want to start running passenger trains over it.
  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
Will the SSFL be subject to the NSW Passenger priority principles.
How long before Railcorp want to start running passenger trains over it.
"MD"


If you bothered with some basic research you would know it is not going to be strung with overhead wires therefore no sparks to run on it, and you would know it is being built and owned by ARTC....quit stirring.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Besides which I believe it will connect with the goods roads at Sefton Junction and the Main southern line just south or Macarthur , nowhere else .
If this is to be the case it would probably only benefit the south XPTs and the Canberra if the usual lines were congested or closed .
  mnel Assistant Commissioner

A reply to a query to railcorp and ARTC (more than 6 months ago) came back promptly that Rail Corp had specifically requesting for a number of connections with the cityrail network (for want of a better description) be removed from the project. City rail has no plans to run the southern highlands services  direct to central along those lines.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Does this mean that the Leightonfield sidings will be disconnected from the passenger lines once the SSFL goes through? Note that these sidings have just been resignalled.

Sefton East Junction is very slow (as low at X10 km/h) for Bankstown trains going to Regents Park. If this junction could be rationalised, turnout speeds could presumably be raised.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
A reply to a query to railcorp and ARTC (more than 6 months ago) came back promptly that Rail Corp had specifically requesting for a number of connections with the cityrail network (for want of a better description) be removed from the project. City rail has no plans to run the southern highlands services  direct to central along those lines.
"mnel"


There was also Railcorps response as documented in the NSW Planning final approvals which resulted in two connections being deleted in the final plans.

Whilst ARTC has never discounted its use by passenger services, Railcorp actions seems to have reinforced it as a freight line. The SSFL is subject to Passenger Priority for what its worth  Rolling Eyes
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
This site may help resolve some questions.  Idea

Recommend trolling through the plans  Wink

http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/documents/
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Does this mean that the Leightonfield sidings will be disconnected from the passenger lines once the SSFL goes through? Note that these sidings have just been resignalled.

Sefton East Junction is very slow (as low at X10 km/h) for Bankstown trains going to Regents Park. If this junction could be rationalised, turnout speeds could presumably be raised.
"awsgc24"


Re: http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/_docs/docs/approved/Chapter%207%20-%20Part%20B.pdf

"The Leightonfield Yard includes an existing electrified refuge loop and
two freight sidings and these could be incorporated into the SSFL and the
existing connections to the RailCorp network would be cut off by the SSFL
alignment. The refuge loop would also have its overhead wire removed.
A separate connection between the two networks would be provided at the
western end of Leightonfield Yard via a long crossover extending from the SSFL east of Villawood (just over 900 metres in length). This connection would enable:

• Freight services to travel between the SSFL and the RailCorp network, via Regents Park, and Lidcombe Loop.
• Freight services with insufficientpower for the Up direction grade of
the proposed Sefton Park Junction underpass to travel through the
Junction on the surface via the RailCorp network.
• CountryLink passenger services (if timetabled) could cross between the
SSFL and the RailCorp network. The long crossover would allow trains
to be parked while waiting for a path to/from the RailCorp network.
Another connection back to the SSFL at the eastern end would allow the long crossover to become a passing loop for parking freight trains while waiting for a path into Chullora."

Railcorp subsequently required the loop lenghthened (westward).
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
A quick Q about the Cabramatta section of SSFL , any truth in the rumor of a tunnel under this station on the down side ?
  Oldfart Chief Commissioner

Location: Right base for BK 11R
A quick Q about the Cabramatta section of SSFL , any truth in the rumor of a tunnel under this station on the down side ?
"BDA"


It was one of the options, but last I heard the surface route for the freight line had been chosen. However, a tunnel is planned to be excavated to provide for a third underground platform at Cabramatta taking grade separated suburban traffic from the down via Granville track on that side. This is not planned to be provided until 2012+, but the SSFL construction is to make provision for it, so don't be surprised to see deep excavation in that area.

The freight tunnel option would needed to have run on an alignment further east, roughly under the far side of the road to provide separation from the underground platform. Obviously it would be more expensive than the surface option, including all the joys associated with exhaust stacks. Oddly enough the local pollies preferred it (to maintain the 'visual amenity' of Cabramatta), and indeed wanted all lines dropped below ground level. What they failed to tell the locals was that the 'cut and cover' construction would have closed down the local thoroughfare and shops for 12 months.

It's too late now, but a much earlier proposal to move Cabra station a bit north with four platforms would also have provided plenty of space for the surface SSFL as well; but local businesses insisted they would have lost 'passing trade' from the station.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
A quick Q about the Cabramatta section of SSFL , any truth in the rumor of a tunnel under this station on the down side ?
"BDA"


The tunnel was discounted early, with several attempts to have it added but finally the pollies backed ARTCs view that the added $40m + was not affordable. However ARTC always included provision for Railcorp works in the future.

Latest(?) Cabramatta plans here...

http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/_docs/cc/Fairfield_2008-10-29_SN-644.pdf

http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/_docs/cc/Fairfield_2008-10-29_SN-646.pdf

http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/_docs/cc/Fairfield_2008-10-29_SN-647.pdf
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Construction Progress news 30/1/2009

"In preparation for establishing facilities and beginning construction work on the various stations, Gartner Rose has begun the process of surveying the sites and searching for existing services (telephone, water, signal cables etc). ...
...
We anticipate establishing site facilities at Casula Station, Leightonfield Station, Warwick Farm and Sefton Station in coming weeks following the granting of the Construction Licence."

http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/news/
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Activity around Liverpool last few days. Looks like they’re starting to work on the Georges River embankment. There is some reo which looks like its for piers and heavy equipment on site.

Given how steep the bank is it and its narrowness at some points this should be some bit of engineering to watch.  8)
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Latest progress updates are now available  8)

http://www.ssfl.artc.com.au/construction-progress/
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Between Macarthur and Ingleburn, it looks like the outer boundary has now been marked with survey tape. Mostly along the existing fencing otherwise tied off on whatever weed/tree branch seems convenient (no pegs yet) – assume this is temporary  Wink . At Leumeah the tapes appear well out from the existing fence (maybe around 8m) so you get some idea of how much of the parking area will be resumed.
"cootanee"


Council mowed near Leumeah - guess what happened to some of those marker tapes !   LaughingLaughingLaughing
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Activity around Liverpool last few days. Looks like they’re starting to work on the Georges River embankment. There is some reo which looks like its for piers and heavy equipment on site.

Given how steep the bank is it and its narrowness at some points this should be some bit of engineering to watch.  8)
"cootanee"



Perhaps the solution used on the Kyogle spiral could be used here.

Rather than try to widen the embankment for the SSFL it would probably be easier to build a few bridge spans parallel to the river (and not as is normal to cross the river). That way only a pier every say 40m is needed rather than a continous retaining wall.

The further into the river this parallel bridge goes, the easier it would be to avoid any sharp curves than lower the ideal 80km/h speed limit on the SSFL.

Remember that the SSFL has to swing away from the pax lines to make room for RailCorp's extra platform and remodelled stabling sidings.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Perhaps the solution used on the Kyogle spiral could be used here.

Rather than try to widen the embankment for the SSFL it would probably be easier to build a few bridge spans parallel to the river (and not as is normal to cross the river). That way only a pier every say 40m is needed rather than a continous retaining wall.

The further into the river this parallel bridge goes, the easier it would be to avoid any sharp curves than lower the ideal 80km/h speed limit on the SSFL.

Remember that the SSFL has to swing away from the pax lines to make room for RailCorp's extra platform and remodelled stabling sidings.
"awsgc24"


I don't think a bridge into the Georges River would have gone down well.
The line will hug the existing corridor and the solution adopted is probably more cost effective.

In any case the borers have been hard at it now - on with the show  Wink

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