Why does RP minus WWW not work?

 
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
This URL works:
http://www.railpage.com.au/

This one does not:
http://Railpage.com.au/

My question is why. Is it just something overlooked, in your .htaccess file it is easy to redirect users who omit the 'www' to the correct url.

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
My question is why. Is it just something overlooked, in your .htaccess file it is easy to redirect users who omit the 'www' to the correct url.
"wongm"


I answer with very limited knowledge on the subject, but feel I could add value.  The Railpage.com.au address if fundamentally different to the http://www.railpage.com.au address or indeed the old address of http://www.railpage.org.au.

I think the webserver would need to be configured to support both in this case. Perhaps this has not yet been completed?

--Bill
  WiRED Locomotive Driver

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The server administrator needs to create a www pointer/alias record so that when you use access via www, it will point it to nameserver 1 (typically known as ns1.domain.com)

Cheers,
Mat
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
There's no DNS entry for Railpage.com.au. There's one for http://www.railpage.com.au, which is - and always has been - the correct website address Smile
  TheLoadedDog The Ghost of George Stephenson

There's no DNS entry for Railpage Australia™.com.au. There's one for http://www.railpage.com.au, which is - and always has been - the correct website address Smile
"michaelgreenhill"


How delightfully 1996, dearie.  Mr. Green
  WiRED Locomotive Driver

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There's no DNS entry for Railpage Australia™.com.au. There's one for http://www.railpage.com.au, which is - and always has been - the correct website address Smile
"michaelgreenhill"
But there should be, for the following reasons



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      michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

    Location: Melbourne
    HTTP is the protocol; www is address. Anyone who doesn't know the address of Railpage looks it up on Google, so no big loss there.
      KEG Junior Train Controller

    You're technically correct michaelgreenhill, there's no doubt about that - but in terms of following the implied standard set by many other sites - microsoft.com, yahoo.com, google.com for example - doesn't it make sense to make access easier?
      WiRED Locomotive Driver

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    @michael

    You'd be surprised at how people wouldn't think to do that. People post questions on websites when the answer could be achieved directly via google (example), so most people would just think the server was down and not bother, as just about EVERY website has a WWW pointer.


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      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    There's no DNS entry for Railpage Australia™.com.au. There's one for http://www.railpage.com.au, which is - and always has been - the correct website address Smile
    "michaelgreenhill"

    Ebay.com isn't called [common misspelling of ebay] but they still register the domains so some typo-squatter doesn't get them.

    When using a foreign computer adding the www. is four extra keystrokes that should not be necessary. I always forget them, and need to go back to enter them when the page won't load.

    These people take that point of view:
    http://no-www.org/

    For my own website http://www.railgeelong.com I use the www in front - I think it looks better, but people who omit it get automatically redirected to the one with it.
      WiRED Locomotive Driver

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    If they use Webmin as a management tool on this server, then doing it will be easy. Seems like they forgot to make a pointer for the domain.
    Usually, if anything www is the one not to work.


    Cheers,
    Mat
      michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

    Location: Melbourne
    Webmin is not used.

    Ebay.com isn't called [common misspelling of ebay] but they still register the domains so some typo-squatter doesn't get them.
    "wongm"

    Once the domain has been registered (ie Railpage.com.au or railgeelong.com), that's it. People can't then register http://www.railpage.com.au and squat it; http://www.railpage.com.au is a subdomain of Railpage.com.au.

    Domain names aren't case sensitive, either - so Ebay.com.au is the same as ebay.com.au.

    Having an A record for *.domain.TLD™ point towards the web server is not a standard, it's not even a defacto standard. It's simply just what some DNS admins do to simplify things.

    as just about EVERY website has a WWW pointer.
    "WiRED"

    Just like this one does.

    Seriously, what's the big deal here? Confused
      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    Seriously, what's the big deal here? Confused
    "michaelgreenhill"

    I am too lazy to type 4 characters. Why don't you want to add the ability to omit them?
      Myrtone Chief Commissioner

    Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
    This URL works:
    http://www.railpage.com.au/

    This one does not:
    http://Railpage Australia™.com.au/
    "wongm"


    I noticed the same glitch long before this thread started.
      Graham4405 Minister for Railways

    Location: Dalby Qld
    I am too lazy to type 4 characters.
    "wongm"

    You only need to type them once then save to your Bookmarks/Favorites... Wink
      WiRED Locomotive Driver

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    as just about EVERY website has a WWW pointer.
    "WiRED"

    Just like this one does.
    "michaelgreenhill"

    I got confused. I meant the opposite (without the WWW).
    All sites should be accessible by default (just http:) anyway. WWW pointers need to be created inorder to gain access to the website via WWW, so for a site to work via WWW and not HTTP (which is default), makes me think something is screwed.

    It's like saying a stock PC from Dell won't work, but when you put your own GFX card in, it will work. (if you know what I mean) [just an example]


    Thanks,
    Mat
      Graham4405 Minister for Railways

    Location: Dalby Qld
    All sites should be accessible by default (just http:) anyway.
    "WiRED"

    Who says so? That is not the standard. "www" stands for "World Wide Web" and indicates that a site is a part of such.
      wolfpac Minister for Railways

    Location: Over here...
    Easy solution, download Google Chrome, type in Railpage into the address/search bar and let the wonder of the Internets weave their magic.

    Problem solved!  Razz

    Wolfpac
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    All sites should be accessible by default (just http:) anyway.
    "WiRED"


    Yup, you try that... //
      michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

    Location: Melbourne
    Seriously, what's the big deal here? Confused
    "michaelgreenhill"

    I am too lazy to type 4 characters. Why don't you want to add the ability to omit them?
    "wongm"

    Like I said, the web server is set up to accept it - there's just no DNS entry for it, and DNS is out of my hands. It hasn't been a big enough issue to bother contacting DR about it - who would also see it as a small problem and probably take their time to get round to doing (which is fine Smile) - so I just haven't taken it any further.

    Who says so? That is not the standard. "www" stands for "World Wide Web" and indicates that a site is a part of such.
    "Graham4405"

    Correctomundo.

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