Nothing but spurious justification for illegal air pollution.
You dont work for Pacific National do you?
I dont care what the causes were it is wrong to inflict your diesel fumes and smoke on poor folk trying to have a barbie in their backyard.
Thats why we have the EPA. Or would you prefer that we just pollute the environment at will? I really cant believe that in this day and age we have such dare I say neanderthal attitudes to the issue of air quality. Did anyone bother to look at the articles I referenced? Any comments?
You know what mate? The way you're going, let's just ban everything which has exhaust. That's not just cars and trains, but that includes coal stations, airplanes, trucks and anything with exhaust, because they're "illegal". I'm sure that'll make your point clear.
It's not illegal. If it's illegal, then it wouldn't be operating in the country today. Simple. Is it banned? No. Is it illegal? No. Not under any law passed by the State and Federal Governments, nor the Australian Constitution, nor International Laws or treaties.
The articles that you referenced are beside the point and completely irrelevant.
If you're so concerned, start a climate change extremist group which will take all cars, trucks, ferries and trains off the road. If the 82 is emitting illegal fumes, then I'm sure that everything else which emits fumes are illegal, so we shouldn't drive cars anymore.
KRviator and Fireman Dave explains very clearly about the situation. He is an experienced driver who actually works with the trains themselves, and knows what he's talking about, not an environmental extremist who wants this banned and that banned. If you want them banned, find the alternative to shift material, let alone shift yourself when you need transportation from Point A to Point B, because it all has exhaust thus they're illegal, unless you walk (from Sydney to Wollongong would be a bit far-fetched don't you think?).
That is a disgusting display from an obviously poorly maintained and/or driven loco.
A poorly maintained loco? Sweet, every vehicle on the road today is poorly maintained because they all have exhaust. Therefore there's no definition of "well maintained".
If that is what it is like on the grade out of the inner harbour then what does it do on the way up the escarpment or up the blue mountains? Not to mention it was an empty. How does it go when its pulling a full load?
It goes like any locomotive. Just with added power to go up the grade.
PN dont give a crap. They got the locos for a pittance will run them into the ground then blackmail the gov to fix or replace them by saying it is "uneconomic" and threatening to walk away. Filthy scum.
I know!!! They are the worst transport company!!! They're investing in green machines which emit less emissions than all previous locomotives. Do you believe it is PN's interest to increase fumes? If it is, then I'd hate to know what you think of every truck company in the World - they're much worst...oh hang, much better infact. Yet PN is scum? Do they have the money to replace every locomotive in their fleet with new ones? You can find the money and alternatives, otherwise don't claim they're not giving a damn. Money doesn't fall off the trees. Costs for new environmentally friendly locos are expensive, and require many investments and profits to afford.
I dont care if they are hauling the national jewels no one should be able to foul peoples air like that and get away with it. Fine them heavily the same as they do to polluting truckies, cars and industry. Hell even backyard burnoffs are banned these days.
Yep, chuck them in jail too.
It's despicable, and everyone in this world who owns a vehicle should be fined and in jail too because all vehicles emit exhaust.
Btw 8041, shouldn't the loco 8041 be scrapped? It's an old, leaky Alco, back from the 1970-80s, with lots more emissions. It should be destroyed
Back to the article, any petrol consuming machine will emit emissions such as that, especially when at a stop, standstill, cold engines, up a grade, more power etc. Nothing unusual, and nothing too much. The 82s are modern and amongst the more environmentally friendly locomotives, and trains emit much less emissions than trucks racing down the Hume Highway etc.