Stations with Myki equipment installed

 
  liron Junior Train Controller




Depends on the location. A popular stop such as a shopping centre or a high school can already take a very long time for everyone to touch on. If a decent number of those passengers are also topping up, it may well take 5 minutes for everyone to board the bus.

"Braddo"


PTV should do at shopping centres what Sunbus does at Sunshine Plaza in Maroochydore.  At Sunshine Plaza, there is a dedicated ticket booth at the bus stop with a  real person there where you can buy Go Cards, not sure about topping up though, but that would be a good idea.

Mind you the buses are parked differently here, which would make it a bit more difficult to implement.  In Chadstone or Southland, the buses are parked on the roadside in long lines along several different roads, whereas in Sunshine Plaza they are angle parked next to each other, which makes them very close together so the ticket booth is near all of them.



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  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station





Depends on the location. A popular stop such as a shopping centre or a high school can already take a very long time for everyone to touch on. If a decent number of those passengers are also topping up, it may well take 5 minutes for everyone to board the bus.

"Braddo"


PTV should do at shopping centres what Sunbus does at Sunshine Plaza in Maroochydore. At Sunshine Plaza, there is a dedicated ticket booth at the bus stop with a real person there where you can buy Go Cards, not sure about topping up though, but that would be a good idea.

Mind you the buses are parked differently here, which would make it a bit more difficult to implement. In Chadstone or Southland, the buses are parked on the roadside in long lines along several different roads, whereas in Sunshine Plaza they are angle parked next to each other, which makes them very close together so the ticket booth is near all of them.



"liron"

In response to Braddo, I catch a bus on a regular basis with lots of high-school students when they are finishing (I work at the same school). You're right in saying that loading times for buses can blow out if there is a large amount of students. I've noticed that some bus drivers when faced with lots of passengers at certain stops open both the front and back doors to load everyone faster. There are MyKi readers at the back door so the students use them when boarding as well. Most students are pretty good with using MyKi so it isn't a problem for them.

  Michaelje Chief Commissioner






I wonder if the $20 "limit" will backfire on them. If you are travelling in Z1+2, at about $5.50 a day, $20 isn't going to get your very far.

$50 would have been a better limit

"Michaelje"

$20 is enough for one and a half days travel in both zones, so should be OK.

"liron"


I think you missed the point. Bus travel needs to be attractive, its already far too slow, and having to top up every 1.5 days unnecessarily just makes it slower.

  Speed Minister for Railways


The rule really should be no change given, no notes bigger than $20. So if you give the driver $5, 10 or 20 then that's what you get on your card and no change, which is definitely going to save the driver time.
"Mitty"
If the driver won't give change, the only reason why you wouldn't accept fifties or hundreds is to reduce the amount of money that the driver carries, making them less attractive targets for robbery.

If the money goes into a strong, firmly fastened box, robbery shouldn't be an issue.

  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong



The rule really should be no change given, no notes bigger than $20. So if you give the driver $5, 10 or 20 then that's what you get on your card and no change, which is definitely going to save the driver time.
"Mitty"
If the driver won't give change, the only reason why you wouldn't accept fifties or hundreds is to reduce the amount of money that the driver carries, making them less attractive targets for robbery.


If the money goes into a strong, firmly fastened box, robbery shouldn't be an issue.

"Speed"

That's one reason.
The other reason is that large amounts of change given out to one person reduces the amount of change a driver has on hand to give to other passengers. I've been on the first run of the day out of Geelong to Queenscliff bus when someone has gotten on with a $20 note and asked for a 2 hour concession ticket - he was politely told to go and get change from a shop somewhere as the driver didnt have enough cash on hand to make the sale. Another passenger was politely told to 'get real' when she presented a $50 note and asking for a $5 top up Confused
At the end of his/her shift on the last run, it may be slightly different in that a large note requiring a large amount of change given reduces the physical amount of coins and notes ther driver has to count up and pay in back at the depot.

  Speed Minister for Railways


The predicate was, "If the driver won't give change".

If the driver is not giving change, he doesn't need to take a float with him. Difficulties giving change should not be a problem, hence the word "only".

  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Difficulties do arise when drivers have a limited float, and someone rocks up wanting a ticket and presents with a note that will wipe out his float, thereby making it impossible for him/her to sell tickets to any further passengers requiring even the smallest amount of change. Hence the sign on some buses requesting passengers to tender correct money when purchasing tickets. Bus drivers are quite within their rights to request a person go get change when they present with a large note (ie $50).
Yes, sometimes people are caught short for whatever reason, but I know there are people out there who rock up to a bus with a $50 note, and ask for a 2 hour ticket in the hope that the bus driver just waves them on and says to sit down - tough if they are told to go get change and miss the bus.
  AzN_dj Chief Commissioner

Location: Along route 69
But if it is in the form of a top up, wouldn't it be less of a problem to take a $50 because no change has to be given? It would certainly stop people rocking up with large notes and hoping to get a free ride - they'll lose $50!
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:

The tram stop in Swanston Street next to Melbourne Central has myki machines now.
Does anyone know when they arrived - I'm assuming it was less than a week ago?

St. Albans and Reservoir stations have 3 CVMs each (and probably have for years).



  Mitty Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hawthorn



The tram stop in Swanston Street next to Melbourne Central has myki machines now.
Does anyone know when they arrived - I'm assuming it was less than a week ago?

"Gauntlet"


Think they've been there two or three weeks.  Interestingly the machine outside the State Library was giving out receipts that said it was at Box Hill Wink
Meanwhile Half a bank of barriers is in at the South end of Southern Cross up on the concourse and the other half is being installed, which will make Southern Cross fully myki only.  This will leave only the single bank of frankenbarriers at the pokies end of Flinders Street to go in the CBD.  Of course other suburban locations are still waiting, eg Caulfield, South Yarra, and Glenferrie most notably.  I believe there's still a frankenbarrier at Frankston as well?

  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
They've replaced the barriers at Frankston for platform(s) 2&3, but not platform 1.
The MCG exit at Richmond still has old gates - I hope they get replaced by FPDs before the football starts.
  Mitty Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hawthorn

@mykimate on twitter tweeted that the myki barrier installation program has concluded for now. ? The rest of them aren't going to be done until mid year. ? Left over frankenbarriers to be replaced are:

Flinders Street Pokies entrance
Glenferrie
South Yarra
Caulfield
Frankston

And apparently Williams Landing is going to get then (why? ? Seems ridiculous). ? The station will open before the barriers are due, meaning they will install normal readers now and then replace them with barriers later. ? Such bad management.

Still can't believe they put them in at North Melbourne when other spots needed them way more.

I'm secretly hoping for a shocking announcement of major redesigns at South Yarra and Glenferrie but that would make way too much sense.?

  Mitty Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hawthorn
Forgot to mention here, I've been on two A class trams now (274 and 269) out of Kew Depot that have had their metcard machines, validators, and driver consoles removed.  Extra myki readers have been installed where the validators once were, making a total of ten(!) readers on an A class tram.  I think I also saw Citadis 3001 with the same treatment though I didn't actually get on board.  

They've done a good job... ironically the only way I could tell where the metcard machine had once been (and is now replaced by seats) is because the half of the window the machine once covered wasn't scratched to billio.
  Speed Minister for Railways

About a month ago (a month on Saturday) on the previous page, I quoted News Limited that Melbourne's buses would be ready to top-up Myki cards by the end of this month.

I see a fair number of buses with drivers' consoles now. I'm not seeing an obvious place for passengers to place their Myki card while it's topped up. Neither am I seeing brackets for more Myki readers at the front of the bus.
  712M Chief Commissioner

There is a horizontal reader on top of the driver's console for a card to be placed while the transaction is processed.
  Mitty Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hawthorn
Circumstantial evidence shows that most A class and Citadis trams out of Kew Depot have been fully mykified now.  And last night I saw my first B class (2014) out of Camberwell which had the full treatment as well.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
Springvale station has 3 CVMs.
Since their numbers are (091200)292, 293 and 294 they must have all been installed when the first lot of myki equipment was rolled out.

These places are the ones with the most myki CVMs now -

11 - Flinders Street
6 - Melbourne Central, Southern Cross (plus 2 in Discovery Centre)
5 - Parliament
4 - Box Hill, Caulfield, Richmond

3 - Belgrave, Camberwell, Canterbury, Craigieburn, Croydon, Ferntree Gully, Flagstaff, Footscray, Frankston, Glenhuntly, Glenroy, Hawthorn, Jolimont, Laverton, Moonee Ponds, Newport, Nunawading, Reservoir, Ringwood, St. Albans, Springvale, Sunshine, Westall, and St Vincent's Plaza Tram Superstop.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
Oakleigh and Strathmore both have three myki CVMs.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I believe in some remote locations (like Rockbank Station) they've given up having CVM's on the platforms because of constant vandalism and bad lighting.  Can anyone confirm/refute this?
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Just a few Myki related things I have noticed in the past month:

The frankenbarriers at Caulfield guarding the centre platforms look like they finally might be on the way out.  Work barriers have gone up in recent days and new cabling has been installed near the barriers. Hopefully new barriers will be going in soon.

I downloaded my monthly Myki statement for May this morning and noticed that in recent weeks, most of the bus trips have actually logged the touch on location & touch off location, exactly like what appeared on my statement after I used Ballarat suburban buses last in April (these are only some of my transactions). The number listed after the mode of transport is the zone.

From my April statement:
04/04/2013 12:08:26 Touch on Bus 8 Ballarat Central,Route BAL02in - - -
04/04/2013 12:31:08 Touch off* Bus 8 Wendouree,Route BAL01out - $2.10 $11.26
04/04/2013 14:04:24 Touch on Bus 8 Lake Wendouree,Route BAL18in- - -
04/04/2013 14:12:15 Touch off Bus 8 Ballarat Central,Route BAL18in - - -






From my May statement:
30/05/2013 08:11:29 Touch on Bus 2 Frankston,Route 781out - - -
30/05/2013 08:25:38 Touch off Bus 2 Mount Eliza,Route 781out - - -

29/05/2013 15:05:21 Touch on Bus 2 Cranbourne East,Route 896out - - -
29/05/2013 15:22:30 Touch off* Bus 2 Cranbourne,Route 896in -

And even earlier this month on a tram!:
06/05/2013 11:08:52 Touch on Tram 1 Richmond,Route 48up - - -
06/05/2013 11:19:15 Touch off Tram 1 Melbourne City,Route 48up - - -
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
I believe in some remote locations (like Rockbank Station) they've given up having CVM's on the platforms because of constant vandalism and bad lighting.  Can anyone confirm/refute this?
don_dunstan
Rockbank has had bumblebee boxes instead of myki machines since at least last August (and one of those boxes had to be replaced since then).
Baxter and Moradoo have had their machines removed and the spots have been concreted over, I noticed this late last year and mentioned it in this thread.
Revenue mentioned this recently in the myki part 3 (Victoria) thread, but didn't say why.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Rockbank has had bumblebee boxes instead of myki machines since at least last August (and one of those boxes had to be replaced since then).
Baxter and Moradoo have had their machines removed and the spots have been concreted over, I noticed this late last year and mentioned it in this thread.
Revenue mentioned this recently in the myki part 3 (Victoria) thread, but didn't say why.
Gauntlet

Thank-you for that.  I looked back through but obviously not far enough.
  Mitty Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hawthorn
The Frankenbarriers at Glenferrie are in the process of being dismantled and it would appear they plan to install new myki barriers over the weekend.  I was told on twitter that the last order of myki barriers has arrived so all Frankenbarriers will be gone in the next four weeks, with some additional banks to be installed at places such as Williams Landing.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
The Frankenbarriers at Glenferrie are in the process of being dismantled and it would appear they plan to install new myki barriers over the weekend.  I was told on twitter that the last order of myki barriers has arrived so all Frankenbarriers will be gone in the next four weeks, with some additional banks to be installed at places such as Williams Landing.
Mitty
I noticed this morning that the frankenbarriers are gone. Looks like the myki barriers could be going in today.
  jfan Chief Train Controller

Caulfield platform 2 was having the Myki barrier controller podium fitted this morning and the frankenbarriers were fenced off (just Pl 2)

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